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Mike Nelson

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107. Interesting discussion and points made by all...

Wed Oct 22, 2025, 07:31 AM

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... in this thread. I enjoyed reading and learning. I don't hold Mr. Planter's tattoo against him... it's not, to most, an obvious Nazi symbol like the Swastika. I would never have known. However, I would wonder -- When did Planter become aware of its meaning, and what did he consider? I would have the tattoo altered, which is common. I have a friend who got a Star of David tattoo and had no idea it was anything other than a star he liked! He is not Jewish, but decided to keep the tattoo. I have a relative who had an image of the Confederate Flag on the top of his car. It was not as big as the one on the "Dukes of Hazzard" TV show. After the discussions went from "way cool" to what the flag meant to African-American friends, he removed the flag. So, I would want to hear about what Planter's views are... we can't throw everyone out of the Democratic Party for old mistakes.

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Sanders refuses to rescind endorsement of candidate sporting Nazi tattoo [View all] tritsofme Tuesday OP

Then Why Didn't he have it Remvoed Cha Tuesday #1

Maybe because it isn't in a conspicuous location Raven123 Tuesday #2

it's right on his chest eShirl Tuesday #4

To me that's not obvious Raven123 Tuesday #5

Thank you for posting that video Very open and honest Autumn Tuesday #30

It's a totenkopf awesomerwb1 Tuesday #71

Did you watch his interview? He's a Democratic candidate and I will go with what he says. Autumn Wednesday #118

Oh I watched the video. awesomerwb1 Wednesday #158

Apparently he told a friend back in 2012 that he knew what it was. yardwork Wednesday #184

It's a hate symbol. EllieBC Tuesday #10

Does it matter where it is? He could easily have something tattooed over it EX500rider Tuesday #14

only in the sense that it's front & center eShirl Wednesday #131

That last, especially. DFW Thursday #245

A skull and crossbones is not inherently a 'nazi' symbol--- I associate it with pirate radio, myself, Jack Valentino Tuesday #38

A skull and crossbones? Bettie Tuesday #57

Yeah.... it was widely used in pirate ship flags in the 1600's and 1700's by pirates, Jack Valentino Tuesday #62

Yeah and the Swastika is a Buddhist symbol stumpysbear Tuesday #66

It ain't a pirate flag symbol. LudwigPastorius Tuesday #72

Possibly---- I couldn't see it clearly enough from the video offered Jack Valentino Tuesday #76

This message was self-deleted by its author Stacey Grove Wednesday #125

This was the insignia worn by guards at NAZI death camps LetMyPeopleVote Wednesday #156

This is the same symbol as the symbol on Himmler's hat LetMyPeopleVote Thursday #263

Good question. Only when it's politically expedient... QueerDuck Wednesday #222

According to this account he was aware... Cha Wednesday #224

😡🤬😡🤬 QueerDuck Wednesday #225

Tattoo resembles an SS deaths head, I respect Sen Sanders and his hard work as a progressive but it will be up to voters yaesu Tuesday #3

Is there a better picture of it? In the interview and the video the opposition Autumn Wednesday #120

Since when is a "skull and crossbones" necessarily Disaffected Tuesday #6

When it is actually literally the SS Totenkopf WhiskeyGrinder Tuesday #11

Is it (literally)? Disaffected Tuesday #23

Yes, it is. WhiskeyGrinder Tuesday #31

Until I read this thread, the double-headed-eagle art concept was not part of my knowledge. John1956PA Tuesday #41

Maybe rather than inking completely over it, add a slash in a different color karynnj Wednesday #181

Yes. I had the same idea of the ink-over with a red-line slash. We think alike. John1956PA Wednesday #187

Funny, I thought of the Buffet song too karynnj Wednesday #200

AS IF some admittedly drunken Marines on liberty would KNOW that.... Jack Valentino Tuesday #39

This candidate admits its a Nazi Tatoo IbogaProject Tuesday #65

Do you have a link to a picture of his actual tattoo. In the video Autumn Wednesday #148

"In the video the opposition that they sent him they are using you can only see a dark blob." WhiskeyGrinder Wednesday #150

It's not, except when it literally IS a nazi symbol stumpysbear Tuesday #63

This message was self-deleted by its author MarineCombatEngineer Wednesday #110

Well jaymac Wednesday #133

The guy says it was a drunken mistake. He didn't have to disclose Autumn Tuesday #7

A mistake he hasn't corrected in almost 20 years WhiskeyGrinder Tuesday #12

Yeah so? I have a small tattoo I have had for 35 years Autumn Tuesday #17

Tiny difference, your tattoo probably isn't celebrating Nazis. Unlike Bernie's guy tritsofme Tuesday #18

He owned up to it, it was a drunken mistake . Autumn Tuesday #21

Someone who is unbothered by having symbols celebrating Nazism on his body tritsofme Tuesday #22

I watched his interview, he's very open and admits to making Autumn Tuesday #25

It's kind of silly, at this point, to talk about him like he's still a serious candidate. tritsofme Tuesday #27

It doesn't matter if you think he's a serious candidate or not.t Autumn Tuesday #33

I'd be shocked if he makes it to the end of the week. tritsofme Tuesday #34

I agree JustAnotherGen Wednesday #169

So we are supposed to support candidates who EllieBC Tuesday #53

Amen!!!!!! MarineCombatEngineer Wednesday #135

Sounds more like an opportunity to "re-fight the 2016 presidential primary" Jack Valentino Tuesday #44

The guy isn't even pretending it's not a Nazi tattoo at this point, no reason to continue that charade. tritsofme Tuesday #49

Pfffffft. Jack Valentino Tuesday #51

How is this refighting the 2016 primary? sheshe2 Tuesday #67

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I was not a 'Bernie Bro'--- and stood in line to vote for Hillary in the 2016 G.E. Jack Valentino Tuesday #75

If you think black turnout was an issue, why would you support Sanders? W_HAMILTON Wednesday #97

bingo! sheshe2 Tuesday #85

Wasn't ME.... Jack Valentino Tuesday #87

2025 is where we are and what many here are talking about. nm sheshe2 Tuesday #86

Correct. Thank you! QueerDuck Wednesday #108

Bernie has made some questionable calls when it comes to candidates and surrogates Keepthesoulalive Wednesday #101

oh is it a nazi tattoo WhiskeyGrinder Tuesday #24

Well the opposition found a video that was a wedding gag Autumn Tuesday #42

Is it a Nazi tattoo? Iggo Wednesday #196

Ever tried to 'correct' a tattoo mistake yourself? Jack Valentino Tuesday #40

People get tattoos covered all the time. Many, many tattooists are willing to cover/repurpose hate tattoos at a reduced WhiskeyGrinder Tuesday #47

I don't accept your position that it is necessarily a "hate" tattoo, just for starters! Jack Valentino Tuesday #50

You don't have to. It's the actual SS Totenkopf tattoo. WhiskeyGrinder Tuesday #56

Perhaps my brain can see deeper than some other people.... Jack Valentino Tuesday #58

lmao WhiskeyGrinder Tuesday #59

or can see some motives that some people will never admit to.... Jack Valentino Tuesday #64

So true! Emile Friday #269

I'm chuckling too 🤣😂 QueerDuck Wednesday #109

.... MarineCombatEngineer Wednesday #113

The candidate evidently knew that it was a NAZI tattoo for a long time and called this NAZI tattoo by it correct name LetMyPeopleVote Wednesday #219

I'm pretty sure Sen. Sanders has kacekwl Wednesday #138

I think the same thing. Autumn Wednesday #149

I'm with Sanders, the whole thing stnks of Miller DoBW Wednesday #227

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Tuesday #8

I do. QueerDuck Tuesday #20

We denounce EVERY Republican candidate, just for being a Republican!!! Jack Valentino Tuesday #46

I'm glad to see so many are fine with this EllieBC Tuesday #9

Yep, it's more than obvious. tritsofme Tuesday #15

Bernie Sanders IS a JEW.... I am not, so I'll go with HIS judgement on the matter! Jack Valentino Tuesday #48

So am I. EllieBC Tuesday #54

Really.. Mahalo, Ellie... It looks like Cha Wednesday #93

Maybe he has other reasons kacekwl Wednesday #180

Being a Jew doesn't give someone a free pass. Guess who else is a Jew? DFW Thursday #248

Nope. I make my own judgements about Nazis. Iggo Wednesday #221

The National Socialists were definitely NOT nice people. DFW Thursday #252

I used to go to a bar BeerBarrelPolka Thursday #259

Platner says he's removing it Easterncedar Tuesday #77

...and it only took 18 years to make that decision. LudwigPastorius Tuesday #81

Not a moral or ethical decision. QueerDuck Wednesday #223

After it came to light. EllieBC Tuesday #90

Embarrassing, or should be WhiskeyGrinder Tuesday #13

Wow. That's very disappointing. QueerDuck Tuesday #16

And now the republicans can forever say that democrats support nazis IcyPeas Tuesday #19

That's my problem with it, yeah maybe u got it while dead drunk but why wouldn't you cover it with another tattoo? EX500rider Tuesday #26

I was young once. RandySF Tuesday #28

So this is how Collins gets re-elected... 0rganism Tuesday #29

Nope, this is bad news for Collins. With Nazi tattoo guy no longer a factor in the primary, Mills can turn toward the GE tritsofme Tuesday #32

too early to say, a lot can happen between now and election day 2026 eShirl Wednesday #121

Very true DFW Thursday #251

Getting a nazi tattoo is an affirmation of one's oasis Tuesday #35

It's NOT a FUCKING SWASTIKA, for Christ Sake!!!! That's the only 'Nazi tattoo' I know about! Jack Valentino Tuesday #55

Newsflash! Bernie Sanders is not 100% right oasis Tuesday #60

I don't think Bernie Sanders is 100% right on any issue either, Jack Valentino Tuesday #80

"Not good enough, Bernie etc". oasis Tuesday #88

Probably I was just ranting at the direction of this thread, reminding me of previous threads Jack Valentino Tuesday #89

One word. sheshe2 Tuesday #92

Rec x 1000 luv2fly Tuesday #61

lol... This is about Planter. Cha Wednesday #94

LOL &... QueerDuck Wednesday #112

Doesn't have to be swastika to be a Nazi symbol uponit7771 Wednesday #141

Pirate Skull and Crossbones: LudwigPastorius Tuesday #78

Thank you! The "pirate radio" excuse sounds even sillier... QueerDuck Wednesday #114

Thank you for posting this LetMyPeopleVote Wednesday #157

WOW... and they're excusing That?!! Cha Wednesday #167

Saved me the trouble, thanks! DFW Thursday #254

Swastikas are not the only fucking Nazi symbol fujiyamasan Tuesday #82

"Pirate Radio" 😳...😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 QueerDuck Wednesday #127

Doesn't have to be, just used by NAZIS is bad enough uponit7771 Wednesday #140

which skull and crossbones would you get? WhiskeyGrinder Wednesday #160

Has he called for intifada too? JoseBalow Tuesday #36

Agreed but I am not surprised. I peeped Sanders game 10 years ago. nt Blasphemer Tuesday #37

The equivocating and lack of urgency LuvLoogie Tuesday #43

If Bernie endorsed him canetoad Tuesday #45

🚧 ⁉️ Platner says he'll remove tattoo that resembles Nazi symbol CoopersDad Tuesday #52

Platner regrets it now ..... relayerbob Tuesday #68

"The View" appearance was: betsuni Wednesday #99

Hm. sheshe2 Wednesday #123

October 20th. betsuni Wednesday #163

Thank you! sheshe2 Wednesday #164

What a surprise.. "dumped on Dems again.." Cha Wednesday #166

Nonsense. It wasn't seen as a nazi tattoo when he got it Easterncedar Tuesday #73

I bet his Blackwater buddies were impressed though relayerbob Tuesday #83

It has always been 100% seen as a Nazi tattoo obamanut2012 Wednesday #128

I may be naive Mossfern Wednesday #146

I know that show, lol Alice B. Wednesday #183

The point is moot. Baitball Blogger Tuesday #74

Maybe this guy really was ignorant fujiyamasan Tuesday #79

That said, I doubt his Democratic party creds are relayerbob Tuesday #84

It was the attack on Bernie that got me riled Easterncedar Wednesday #130

If it weren't for all the baggage (this and the Reddit comments) fujiyamasan Thursday #242

Yep Easterncedar Thursday #256

Oh, man. herding cats Tuesday #91

Aloha Cat... Yeah, it's not our State... Cha Wednesday #95

A lot of this reminds me of the arguments about Fetterman over Connor Lamb, because Connor Lamb lostincalifornia Wednesday #96

Zero tolerance on things like this for me. BannonsLiver Wednesday #98

That sums up my stance as well. Celerity Wednesday #100

There is right and there is wrong Dorian Gray Wednesday #102

We don't have to be in Maine to have Cha Wednesday #235

So, Senator Sanders wants to ignore the color on Platner's skin & judge him by his character? Tim S Wednesday #103

If PoC sported I want to murder white people symbols doubt if Sanders would endorse them uponit7771 Wednesday #142

I don't want another Fetterman -- do you? W_HAMILTON Wednesday #174

So a Grand Wizard KKK tattoo would be no big deal then? Cause this is worse then that IMO EX500rider Wednesday #236

Really? Tim S Thursday #261

Not for simply having a tattoo EX500rider Thursday #262

I trust Bernie's judgment Martin Eden Wednesday #104

Nobody is perfect. This proves it. QueerDuck Wednesday #115

Gabbard. Joy Gray. Turner. Fetterman. This guy. W_HAMILTON Wednesday #175

This isnt his worst endorsement by a longshot SSJVegeta Wednesday #105

While I trust Bernie, all the same, if I were Platner, I would do one of two things: no_hypocrisy Wednesday #106

Interesting discussion and points made by all... Mike Nelson Wednesday #107

"Don't have a Nazi death-head symbol on your body" seems like a low bar for a Democrat n/t Shrek Wednesday #117

This guy seems to be swirling the bowl at this point Mysterian Wednesday #111

Nazi tattoo: fine. Dem campaign funds: Corrupt! Billionaire oligarchs! No taking on, no fighting for working class! Bad! betsuni Wednesday #116

Sanders is very used to making excuses.... ShadesOfBlue Wednesday #119

Yes he is. comradebillyboy Wednesday #161

I'd be open to hear Sanders explain more about why he thinks this guy has changed Mysterian Wednesday #122

Is this thread intended to dissuade people Emile Wednesday #124

Post removed Post removed Wednesday #129

Perfectly acceptable during primaries, right? QueerDuck Wednesday #132

One would think so Hekate Wednesday #137

Well, yes... that's what I thought. Yet it seems like some have already "anointed" him as the party's nominee... QueerDuck Wednesday #171

Is it perfectly acceptable Emile Wednesday #170

Ridiculous. Nobody is being "viciously denigrated." QueerDuck Wednesday #172

Constructive criticism is okay. This could be construed as bashing. and comparing one Emile Wednesday #179

LOL! Yes... that's what PRIMARIES are all about. QueerDuck Wednesday #190

Bashing and tearing down our candidates is not constructive. Emile Wednesday #191

He's in a primary. He's not the anointed nominee. He must EARN that privilege and honor. QueerDuck Wednesday #193

Do you think calling a democratic politician a NAZI Emile Wednesday #195

Nobody has done that... not that I can find in this thread. Every time the word "Nazi" is used... QueerDuck Wednesday #203

So you don't think he's a NAZI? Emile Wednesday #204

JFC, Emile! Give me a fucking break! You know perfectly well that I never said such a thing. QueerDuck Wednesday #207

What's your opinion of Zohran Mamdani? Emile Wednesday #209

LOL! That's not the topic of this thread, Emile. QueerDuck Wednesday #212

Can you send me a link? I have no memory ever Emile Wednesday #214

Sorry. Not my problem. QueerDuck Wednesday #215

I didn't think you could back that up. Adios Emile Wednesday #216

Again. Not my problem. Deal with it. QueerDuck Wednesday #217

Adios Emile Wednesday #218

Okay! Just want to Thank You Cha Wednesday #237

Yes. He has to earn the votes. Feet held to the fire. People will vote their conscience. No cheerleaders. betsuni Thursday #250

So, questioning him having a Nazi tattoo is fair game, but if he was to win the primary, we must defend him having it? MichMan Wednesday #228

He won't win. QueerDuck Wednesday #231

There are other candidates in the Democratic primary, including one that is, in my opinion, MUCH preferable to this guy. W_HAMILTON Wednesday #176

That's great you have a preference. But Emile Wednesday #185

He doesn't have a general election opponent -- he has a Democratic primary opponent. Several, actually. W_HAMILTON Wednesday #188

Politics is not for the thin-skinned, is it? QueerDuck Wednesday #194

Just because one is ignorant of WW2 history Stacey Grove Wednesday #126

Apparently Platner is well versed in WWII history MichMan Wednesday #229

I'd even bet DFW Thursday #255

To be fair, Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei is kinda of a mouthful. EX500rider Thursday #265

The Europeans do love their abbreviations. DFW Thursday #266

After all the crap from the right does. Blue Full Moon Wednesday #134

A week or so ago Senator Sanders said that Governor Mills should exit the race Quiet Em Wednesday #136

When did Bernie get to decide who could or couldn't comradebillyboy Wednesday #162

I think 14 democrats voting kacekwl Wednesday #139

I wish I could afford to ignore racist symbols like that uponit7771 Wednesday #143

The head of the DoD has what some consider a nazi tatoo kacekwl Wednesday #147

Republicans being ok with Nazis isn't new and it's not a problem for Democrats. Maru Kitteh Wednesday #151

He's not even the nominee 🙄 QueerDuck Wednesday #153

The symbols on his body aren't his words and beliefs?!?; Some privileged right there man uponit7771 Thursday #246

Why would they do that? Emile Wednesday #144

Was one of them Fetterman, another Sanders-backed """progressive""" at one point? W_HAMILTON Wednesday #177

We were All fooled by Fetterman. kacekwl Wednesday #182

Maybe so, but I wasn't fooled by a lot of other questionable characters Sanders has surrounded himself with... W_HAMILTON Wednesday #186

I won't bash Senator Sanders. I wish we had more Emile Wednesday #189

***THIS!!!** 👆🏿👆🏿👆🏿 uponit7771 Thursday #247

Not everyone. sheshe2 Wednesday #232

My stepfather had a Nazi tattoo. OilemFirchen Wednesday #145

If it's a skull with what looks like the bones are coming Klarkashton Wednesday #152

Kinda not great to see a lot of people handwaving away a nazi tattoo on a Democrat! WhiskeyGrinder Wednesday #154

One poster says they will get their own Nazi tattoo now because Bernie Maru Kitteh Wednesday #159

The insignia - death skull - was worn exclusively by SS guards at death camps LetMyPeopleVote Wednesday #155

Abhorrent and shocking! Seriously disappointed with Sanders. I feel like maybe reaching cognitive disorders? msfiddlestix Wednesday #165

Sanders always returns to the Independent Column JustAnotherGen Wednesday #168

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Wednesday #173

I'm going to give Plantner a pass on this until I hear more from him and another pass to Sanders for the...... FadedMullet Wednesday #178

Nope. No pass for Nazis. (Even if they're just a wannabe Nazi.) Iggo Wednesday #198

If you are comfortable with the information that you have, to be able to call him a Nazi, then you must have...... FadedMullet Wednesday #241

And yet Pelosi, Hoyer, Jeffries, and Clyburn endorsed Henry Cuellar, Rob H. Wednesday #192

Cuellar wasn't a Nazi, either real or wannabe. Iggo Wednesday #197

Who is a Nazi? Emile Wednesday #201

As I edited my post above, Platner says he's since gotten it covered Rob H. Wednesday #202

Cuellar was subsequently indicted for bribery, conspiracy to commit bribery, Rob H. Wednesday #205

Breaking: Tattoo covered. Reconsider animosity posts please. GreenWave Wednesday #199

Thanks for that and thanks for the link Rob H. Wednesday #206

Yes... covered, but only just now... when it's politically expedient. QueerDuck Wednesday #208

Thank you. By the color of the ink, it's been covered Emile Wednesday #213

If he is not smart enough to know that he has a nazi concentration camp symbol Bluestocking Wednesday #210

Bingo! This! QueerDuck Wednesday #226

There is nothing in this guys bio that suggests he is a racist. everyonematters Wednesday #211

When he was a bartender, he said "Black people don't tip" MichMan Wednesday #230

Except for his Nazi tattoo. Iggo Wednesday #234

MaddowBlog-Maine's Graham Platner faces difficult questions about his record -- and a tattoo LetMyPeopleVote Wednesday #220

Why is Twitter being considered a source? ificandream Wednesday #233

Seems like a lot of pearl clutching over some superficial nonsense from his military past. thought crime Wednesday #238

You don't see a problem with his homophobic statements? MichMan Wednesday #240

It is obviously a political problem. But I accept his explanation and apologies. thought crime Thursday #243

IMO, It's shit stirring from the elite resistance wanting a centrist. Emile Thursday #260

According to Sanders, it is the "corrupt campaign finance system" that deserves the blame MichMan Wednesday #239

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Thursday #244

I agree with this. It's a bad look. He needs to walk away from a horribly vetted Platner. Celerity Thursday #253

First rule: All dysfunction in government caused by money in politics, both sides controlled by billionaire oligarchs. betsuni Thursday #257

sadly the nazi's had good icons. this one is on the bottom + does not scream nazi. pansypoo53219 Thursday #249

Yes it does if you read all the information Cha Thursday #267

Then Sanders is wrong, and he needs to hear it from us. mucholderthandirt Thursday #258

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Thursday #264

The image in the tattoo is the same as the one on Nazi headgear for some branches LetMyPeopleVote Friday #268