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tritsofme

(19,619 posts)
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 06:28 PM Tuesday

Sanders refuses to rescind endorsement of candidate sporting Nazi tattoo














This is utterly disgraceful. The arrogance required to refuse to admit you are wrong even when faced with someone who has worn literal Nazi symbols on their body for over a decade is just astounding.
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Sanders refuses to rescind endorsement of candidate sporting Nazi tattoo (Original Post) tritsofme Tuesday OP
Then Why Didn't he have it Remvoed Cha Tuesday #1
Maybe because it isn't in a conspicuous location Raven123 Tuesday #2
it's right on his chest eShirl Tuesday #4
To me that's not obvious Raven123 Tuesday #5
Thank you for posting that video Very open and honest Autumn Tuesday #30
It's a totenkopf awesomerwb1 Tuesday #71
Did you watch his interview? He's a Democratic candidate and I will go with what he says. Autumn Wednesday #118
Oh I watched the video. awesomerwb1 Wednesday #158
Apparently he told a friend back in 2012 that he knew what it was. yardwork Wednesday #184
It's a hate symbol. EllieBC Tuesday #10
Does it matter where it is? He could easily have something tattooed over it EX500rider Tuesday #14
only in the sense that it's front & center eShirl Wednesday #131
That last, especially. DFW Thursday #245
A skull and crossbones is not inherently a 'nazi' symbol--- I associate it with pirate radio, myself, Jack Valentino Tuesday #38
A skull and crossbones? Bettie Tuesday #57
Yeah.... it was widely used in pirate ship flags in the 1600's and 1700's by pirates, Jack Valentino Tuesday #62
Yeah and the Swastika is a Buddhist symbol stumpysbear Tuesday #66
It ain't a pirate flag symbol. LudwigPastorius Tuesday #72
Possibly---- I couldn't see it clearly enough from the video offered Jack Valentino Tuesday #76
This message was self-deleted by its author Stacey Grove Wednesday #125
This was the insignia worn by guards at NAZI death camps LetMyPeopleVote Wednesday #156
This is the same symbol as the symbol on Himmler's hat LetMyPeopleVote Thursday #263
Good question. Only when it's politically expedient... QueerDuck Wednesday #222
According to this account he was aware... Cha Wednesday #224
😡🤬😡🤬 QueerDuck Wednesday #225
Tattoo resembles an SS deaths head, I respect Sen Sanders and his hard work as a progressive but it will be up to voters yaesu Tuesday #3
Is there a better picture of it? In the interview and the video the opposition Autumn Wednesday #120
Since when is a "skull and crossbones" necessarily Disaffected Tuesday #6
When it is actually literally the SS Totenkopf WhiskeyGrinder Tuesday #11
Is it (literally)? Disaffected Tuesday #23
Yes, it is. WhiskeyGrinder Tuesday #31
Until I read this thread, the double-headed-eagle art concept was not part of my knowledge. John1956PA Tuesday #41
Maybe rather than inking completely over it, add a slash in a different color karynnj Wednesday #181
Yes. I had the same idea of the ink-over with a red-line slash. We think alike. John1956PA Wednesday #187
Funny, I thought of the Buffet song too karynnj Wednesday #200
AS IF some admittedly drunken Marines on liberty would KNOW that.... Jack Valentino Tuesday #39
This candidate admits its a Nazi Tatoo IbogaProject Tuesday #65
Do you have a link to a picture of his actual tattoo. In the video Autumn Wednesday #148
"In the video the opposition that they sent him they are using you can only see a dark blob." WhiskeyGrinder Wednesday #150
It's not, except when it literally IS a nazi symbol stumpysbear Tuesday #63
This message was self-deleted by its author MarineCombatEngineer Wednesday #110
Well jaymac Wednesday #133
The guy says it was a drunken mistake. He didn't have to disclose Autumn Tuesday #7
A mistake he hasn't corrected in almost 20 years WhiskeyGrinder Tuesday #12
Yeah so? I have a small tattoo I have had for 35 years Autumn Tuesday #17
Tiny difference, your tattoo probably isn't celebrating Nazis. Unlike Bernie's guy tritsofme Tuesday #18
He owned up to it, it was a drunken mistake . Autumn Tuesday #21
Someone who is unbothered by having symbols celebrating Nazism on his body tritsofme Tuesday #22
I watched his interview, he's very open and admits to making Autumn Tuesday #25
It's kind of silly, at this point, to talk about him like he's still a serious candidate. tritsofme Tuesday #27
It doesn't matter if you think he's a serious candidate or not.t Autumn Tuesday #33
I'd be shocked if he makes it to the end of the week. tritsofme Tuesday #34
I agree JustAnotherGen Wednesday #169
So we are supposed to support candidates who EllieBC Tuesday #53
Amen!!!!!! MarineCombatEngineer Wednesday #135
Sounds more like an opportunity to "re-fight the 2016 presidential primary" Jack Valentino Tuesday #44
The guy isn't even pretending it's not a Nazi tattoo at this point, no reason to continue that charade. tritsofme Tuesday #49
Pfffffft. Jack Valentino Tuesday #51
How is this refighting the 2016 primary? sheshe2 Tuesday #67
Post removed Post removed Tuesday #69
Post removed Post removed Tuesday #70
I was not a 'Bernie Bro'--- and stood in line to vote for Hillary in the 2016 G.E. Jack Valentino Tuesday #75
If you think black turnout was an issue, why would you support Sanders? W_HAMILTON Wednesday #97
bingo! sheshe2 Tuesday #85
Wasn't ME.... Jack Valentino Tuesday #87
2025 is where we are and what many here are talking about. nm sheshe2 Tuesday #86
Correct. Thank you! QueerDuck Wednesday #108
Bernie has made some questionable calls when it comes to candidates and surrogates Keepthesoulalive Wednesday #101
oh is it a nazi tattoo WhiskeyGrinder Tuesday #24
Well the opposition found a video that was a wedding gag Autumn Tuesday #42
Is it a Nazi tattoo? Iggo Wednesday #196
Ever tried to 'correct' a tattoo mistake yourself? Jack Valentino Tuesday #40
People get tattoos covered all the time. Many, many tattooists are willing to cover/repurpose hate tattoos at a reduced WhiskeyGrinder Tuesday #47
I don't accept your position that it is necessarily a "hate" tattoo, just for starters! Jack Valentino Tuesday #50
You don't have to. It's the actual SS Totenkopf tattoo. WhiskeyGrinder Tuesday #56
Perhaps my brain can see deeper than some other people.... Jack Valentino Tuesday #58
lmao WhiskeyGrinder Tuesday #59
or can see some motives that some people will never admit to.... Jack Valentino Tuesday #64
So true! Emile Friday #269
I'm chuckling too 🤣😂 QueerDuck Wednesday #109
.... MarineCombatEngineer Wednesday #113
The candidate evidently knew that it was a NAZI tattoo for a long time and called this NAZI tattoo by it correct name LetMyPeopleVote Wednesday #219
I'm pretty sure Sen. Sanders has kacekwl Wednesday #138
I think the same thing. Autumn Wednesday #149
I'm with Sanders, the whole thing stnks of Miller DoBW Wednesday #227
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Tuesday #8
I do. QueerDuck Tuesday #20
We denounce EVERY Republican candidate, just for being a Republican!!! Jack Valentino Tuesday #46
I'm glad to see so many are fine with this EllieBC Tuesday #9
Yep, it's more than obvious. tritsofme Tuesday #15
Bernie Sanders IS a JEW.... I am not, so I'll go with HIS judgement on the matter! Jack Valentino Tuesday #48
So am I. EllieBC Tuesday #54
Really.. Mahalo, Ellie... It looks like Cha Wednesday #93
Maybe he has other reasons kacekwl Wednesday #180
Being a Jew doesn't give someone a free pass. Guess who else is a Jew? DFW Thursday #248
Nope. I make my own judgements about Nazis. Iggo Wednesday #221
The National Socialists were definitely NOT nice people. DFW Thursday #252
I used to go to a bar BeerBarrelPolka Thursday #259
Platner says he's removing it Easterncedar Tuesday #77
...and it only took 18 years to make that decision. LudwigPastorius Tuesday #81
Not a moral or ethical decision. QueerDuck Wednesday #223
After it came to light. EllieBC Tuesday #90
Embarrassing, or should be WhiskeyGrinder Tuesday #13
Wow. That's very disappointing. QueerDuck Tuesday #16
And now the republicans can forever say that democrats support nazis IcyPeas Tuesday #19
That's my problem with it, yeah maybe u got it while dead drunk but why wouldn't you cover it with another tattoo? EX500rider Tuesday #26
I was young once. RandySF Tuesday #28
So this is how Collins gets re-elected... 0rganism Tuesday #29
Nope, this is bad news for Collins. With Nazi tattoo guy no longer a factor in the primary, Mills can turn toward the GE tritsofme Tuesday #32
too early to say, a lot can happen between now and election day 2026 eShirl Wednesday #121
Very true DFW Thursday #251
Getting a nazi tattoo is an affirmation of one's oasis Tuesday #35
It's NOT a FUCKING SWASTIKA, for Christ Sake!!!! That's the only 'Nazi tattoo' I know about! Jack Valentino Tuesday #55
Newsflash! Bernie Sanders is not 100% right oasis Tuesday #60
I don't think Bernie Sanders is 100% right on any issue either, Jack Valentino Tuesday #80
"Not good enough, Bernie etc". oasis Tuesday #88
Probably I was just ranting at the direction of this thread, reminding me of previous threads Jack Valentino Tuesday #89
One word. sheshe2 Tuesday #92
Rec x 1000 luv2fly Tuesday #61
lol... This is about Planter. Cha Wednesday #94
LOL &... QueerDuck Wednesday #112
Doesn't have to be swastika to be a Nazi symbol uponit7771 Wednesday #141
Pirate Skull and Crossbones: LudwigPastorius Tuesday #78
Thank you! The "pirate radio" excuse sounds even sillier... QueerDuck Wednesday #114
Thank you for posting this LetMyPeopleVote Wednesday #157
WOW... and they're excusing That?!! Cha Wednesday #167
Saved me the trouble, thanks! DFW Thursday #254
Swastikas are not the only fucking Nazi symbol fujiyamasan Tuesday #82
"Pirate Radio" 😳...😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 QueerDuck Wednesday #127
Doesn't have to be, just used by NAZIS is bad enough uponit7771 Wednesday #140
which skull and crossbones would you get? WhiskeyGrinder Wednesday #160
Has he called for intifada too? JoseBalow Tuesday #36
Agreed but I am not surprised. I peeped Sanders game 10 years ago. nt Blasphemer Tuesday #37
The equivocating and lack of urgency LuvLoogie Tuesday #43
If Bernie endorsed him canetoad Tuesday #45
🚧 ⁉️ Platner says he'll remove tattoo that resembles Nazi symbol CoopersDad Tuesday #52
Platner regrets it now ..... relayerbob Tuesday #68
"The View" appearance was: betsuni Wednesday #99
Hm. sheshe2 Wednesday #123
October 20th. betsuni Wednesday #163
Thank you! sheshe2 Wednesday #164
What a surprise.. "dumped on Dems again.." Cha Wednesday #166
Nonsense. It wasn't seen as a nazi tattoo when he got it Easterncedar Tuesday #73
I bet his Blackwater buddies were impressed though relayerbob Tuesday #83
It has always been 100% seen as a Nazi tattoo obamanut2012 Wednesday #128
I may be naive Mossfern Wednesday #146
I know that show, lol Alice B. Wednesday #183
The point is moot. Baitball Blogger Tuesday #74
Maybe this guy really was ignorant fujiyamasan Tuesday #79
That said, I doubt his Democratic party creds are relayerbob Tuesday #84
It was the attack on Bernie that got me riled Easterncedar Wednesday #130
If it weren't for all the baggage (this and the Reddit comments) fujiyamasan Thursday #242
Yep Easterncedar Thursday #256
Oh, man. herding cats Tuesday #91
Aloha Cat... Yeah, it's not our State... Cha Wednesday #95
A lot of this reminds me of the arguments about Fetterman over Connor Lamb, because Connor Lamb lostincalifornia Wednesday #96
Zero tolerance on things like this for me. BannonsLiver Wednesday #98
That sums up my stance as well. Celerity Wednesday #100
There is right and there is wrong Dorian Gray Wednesday #102
We don't have to be in Maine to have Cha Wednesday #235
So, Senator Sanders wants to ignore the color on Platner's skin & judge him by his character? Tim S Wednesday #103
If PoC sported I want to murder white people symbols doubt if Sanders would endorse them uponit7771 Wednesday #142
I don't want another Fetterman -- do you? W_HAMILTON Wednesday #174
So a Grand Wizard KKK tattoo would be no big deal then? Cause this is worse then that IMO EX500rider Wednesday #236
Really? Tim S Thursday #261
Not for simply having a tattoo EX500rider Thursday #262
I trust Bernie's judgment Martin Eden Wednesday #104
Nobody is perfect. This proves it. QueerDuck Wednesday #115
Gabbard. Joy Gray. Turner. Fetterman. This guy. W_HAMILTON Wednesday #175
This isnt his worst endorsement by a longshot SSJVegeta Wednesday #105
While I trust Bernie, all the same, if I were Platner, I would do one of two things: no_hypocrisy Wednesday #106
Interesting discussion and points made by all... Mike Nelson Wednesday #107
"Don't have a Nazi death-head symbol on your body" seems like a low bar for a Democrat n/t Shrek Wednesday #117
This guy seems to be swirling the bowl at this point Mysterian Wednesday #111
Nazi tattoo: fine. Dem campaign funds: Corrupt! Billionaire oligarchs! No taking on, no fighting for working class! Bad! betsuni Wednesday #116
Sanders is very used to making excuses.... ShadesOfBlue Wednesday #119
Yes he is. comradebillyboy Wednesday #161
I'd be open to hear Sanders explain more about why he thinks this guy has changed Mysterian Wednesday #122
Is this thread intended to dissuade people Emile Wednesday #124
Post removed Post removed Wednesday #129
Perfectly acceptable during primaries, right? QueerDuck Wednesday #132
One would think so Hekate Wednesday #137
Well, yes... that's what I thought. Yet it seems like some have already "anointed" him as the party's nominee... QueerDuck Wednesday #171
Is it perfectly acceptable Emile Wednesday #170
Ridiculous. Nobody is being "viciously denigrated." QueerDuck Wednesday #172
Constructive criticism is okay. This could be construed as bashing. and comparing one Emile Wednesday #179
LOL! Yes... that's what PRIMARIES are all about. QueerDuck Wednesday #190
Bashing and tearing down our candidates is not constructive. Emile Wednesday #191
He's in a primary. He's not the anointed nominee. He must EARN that privilege and honor. QueerDuck Wednesday #193
Do you think calling a democratic politician a NAZI Emile Wednesday #195
Nobody has done that... not that I can find in this thread. Every time the word "Nazi" is used... QueerDuck Wednesday #203
So you don't think he's a NAZI? Emile Wednesday #204
JFC, Emile! Give me a fucking break! You know perfectly well that I never said such a thing. QueerDuck Wednesday #207
What's your opinion of Zohran Mamdani? Emile Wednesday #209
LOL! That's not the topic of this thread, Emile. QueerDuck Wednesday #212
Can you send me a link? I have no memory ever Emile Wednesday #214
Sorry. Not my problem. QueerDuck Wednesday #215
I didn't think you could back that up. Adios Emile Wednesday #216
Again. Not my problem. Deal with it. QueerDuck Wednesday #217
Adios Emile Wednesday #218
Okay! Just want to Thank You Cha Wednesday #237
Yes. He has to earn the votes. Feet held to the fire. People will vote their conscience. No cheerleaders. betsuni Thursday #250
So, questioning him having a Nazi tattoo is fair game, but if he was to win the primary, we must defend him having it? MichMan Wednesday #228
He won't win. QueerDuck Wednesday #231
There are other candidates in the Democratic primary, including one that is, in my opinion, MUCH preferable to this guy. W_HAMILTON Wednesday #176
That's great you have a preference. But Emile Wednesday #185
He doesn't have a general election opponent -- he has a Democratic primary opponent. Several, actually. W_HAMILTON Wednesday #188
Politics is not for the thin-skinned, is it? QueerDuck Wednesday #194
Just because one is ignorant of WW2 history Stacey Grove Wednesday #126
Apparently Platner is well versed in WWII history MichMan Wednesday #229
I'd even bet DFW Thursday #255
To be fair, Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei is kinda of a mouthful. EX500rider Thursday #265
The Europeans do love their abbreviations. DFW Thursday #266
After all the crap from the right does. Blue Full Moon Wednesday #134
A week or so ago Senator Sanders said that Governor Mills should exit the race Quiet Em Wednesday #136
When did Bernie get to decide who could or couldn't comradebillyboy Wednesday #162
I think 14 democrats voting kacekwl Wednesday #139
I wish I could afford to ignore racist symbols like that uponit7771 Wednesday #143
The head of the DoD has what some consider a nazi tatoo kacekwl Wednesday #147
Republicans being ok with Nazis isn't new and it's not a problem for Democrats. Maru Kitteh Wednesday #151
He's not even the nominee 🙄 QueerDuck Wednesday #153
The symbols on his body aren't his words and beliefs?!?; Some privileged right there man uponit7771 Thursday #246
Why would they do that? Emile Wednesday #144
Was one of them Fetterman, another Sanders-backed """progressive""" at one point? W_HAMILTON Wednesday #177
We were All fooled by Fetterman. kacekwl Wednesday #182
Maybe so, but I wasn't fooled by a lot of other questionable characters Sanders has surrounded himself with... W_HAMILTON Wednesday #186
I won't bash Senator Sanders. I wish we had more Emile Wednesday #189
***THIS!!!** 👆🏿👆🏿👆🏿 uponit7771 Thursday #247
Not everyone. sheshe2 Wednesday #232
My stepfather had a Nazi tattoo. OilemFirchen Wednesday #145
If it's a skull with what looks like the bones are coming Klarkashton Wednesday #152
Kinda not great to see a lot of people handwaving away a nazi tattoo on a Democrat! WhiskeyGrinder Wednesday #154
One poster says they will get their own Nazi tattoo now because Bernie Maru Kitteh Wednesday #159
The insignia - death skull - was worn exclusively by SS guards at death camps LetMyPeopleVote Wednesday #155
Abhorrent and shocking! Seriously disappointed with Sanders. I feel like maybe reaching cognitive disorders? msfiddlestix Wednesday #165
Sanders always returns to the Independent Column JustAnotherGen Wednesday #168
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Wednesday #173
I'm going to give Plantner a pass on this until I hear more from him and another pass to Sanders for the...... FadedMullet Wednesday #178
Nope. No pass for Nazis. (Even if they're just a wannabe Nazi.) Iggo Wednesday #198
If you are comfortable with the information that you have, to be able to call him a Nazi, then you must have...... FadedMullet Wednesday #241
And yet Pelosi, Hoyer, Jeffries, and Clyburn endorsed Henry Cuellar, Rob H. Wednesday #192
Cuellar wasn't a Nazi, either real or wannabe. Iggo Wednesday #197
Who is a Nazi? Emile Wednesday #201
As I edited my post above, Platner says he's since gotten it covered Rob H. Wednesday #202
Cuellar was subsequently indicted for bribery, conspiracy to commit bribery, Rob H. Wednesday #205
Breaking: Tattoo covered. Reconsider animosity posts please. GreenWave Wednesday #199
Thanks for that and thanks for the link Rob H. Wednesday #206
Yes... covered, but only just now... when it's politically expedient. QueerDuck Wednesday #208
Thank you. By the color of the ink, it's been covered Emile Wednesday #213
If he is not smart enough to know that he has a nazi concentration camp symbol Bluestocking Wednesday #210
Bingo! This! QueerDuck Wednesday #226
There is nothing in this guys bio that suggests he is a racist. everyonematters Wednesday #211
When he was a bartender, he said "Black people don't tip" MichMan Wednesday #230
Except for his Nazi tattoo. Iggo Wednesday #234
MaddowBlog-Maine's Graham Platner faces difficult questions about his record -- and a tattoo LetMyPeopleVote Wednesday #220
Why is Twitter being considered a source? ificandream Wednesday #233
Seems like a lot of pearl clutching over some superficial nonsense from his military past. thought crime Wednesday #238
You don't see a problem with his homophobic statements? MichMan Wednesday #240
It is obviously a political problem. But I accept his explanation and apologies. thought crime Thursday #243
IMO, It's shit stirring from the elite resistance wanting a centrist. Emile Thursday #260
According to Sanders, it is the "corrupt campaign finance system" that deserves the blame MichMan Wednesday #239
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Thursday #244
I agree with this. It's a bad look. He needs to walk away from a horribly vetted Platner. Celerity Thursday #253
First rule: All dysfunction in government caused by money in politics, both sides controlled by billionaire oligarchs. betsuni Thursday #257
sadly the nazi's had good icons. this one is on the bottom + does not scream nazi. pansypoo53219 Thursday #249
Yes it does if you read all the information Cha Thursday #267
Then Sanders is wrong, and he needs to hear it from us. mucholderthandirt Thursday #258
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Thursday #264
The image in the tattoo is the same as the one on Nazi headgear for some branches LetMyPeopleVote Friday #268

Raven123

(7,207 posts)
2. Maybe because it isn't in a conspicuous location
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 06:55 PM
Tuesday

And he wasn’t planning on running for Senate.

eShirl

(19,851 posts)
4. it's right on his chest
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 07:07 PM
Tuesday

he shared an old video with Pod Save America
(starts just around the 19:20 mark in a 49 minute video)

&t=1158s

Autumn

(48,499 posts)
30. Thank you for posting that video Very open and honest
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 08:56 PM
Tuesday

Not quite what the opposition has painted him as being.

Autumn

(48,499 posts)
118. Did you watch his interview? He's a Democratic candidate and I will go with what he says.
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 09:15 AM
Wednesday

In the video video the opposition released on him you can't even make out what the tattoo looks like. I'll take him at his word .

awesomerwb1

(4,915 posts)
158. Oh I watched the video.
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 01:05 PM
Wednesday

I froze the video and saw the tattoo quite clearly. It's what I said it was. This is not a "mainstream" tattoo. It's not your typical skull and bones.

I'll take him at his word when he says "I'm dropping out". Which he should do asap.

yardwork

(68,395 posts)
184. Apparently he told a friend back in 2012 that he knew what it was.
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 03:55 PM
Wednesday

I was defending him earlier but it's starting to look like he's known what it is all along. Thinks he's being cute.

EX500rider

(12,061 posts)
14. Does it matter where it is? He could easily have something tattooed over it
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 08:05 PM
Tuesday

If I woke up with a Nazi themed tattoo no matter where on my body it would be gone ASAP, I couldn't live with that. YMMV

eShirl

(19,851 posts)
131. only in the sense that it's front & center
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 10:28 AM
Wednesday

unmissable when not covered up by clothing (which it usually is)

DFW

(59,205 posts)
245. That last, especially.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 01:10 AM
Thursday

In the 2008 presidential campaign, Obama once quipped, “whoever gave me my middle name never thought I’d be running for president.” Even John McCain broke up at that one.

Jack Valentino

(3,736 posts)
38. A skull and crossbones is not inherently a 'nazi' symbol--- I associate it with pirate radio, myself,
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 09:14 PM
Tuesday

and not with the Nazis AT ALL----

From the OP's clickbait subject line, I was expecting to see a huge SWASTIKA on his chest!
Oh, ok, not so much, after watching the video further down....

Bettie

(19,002 posts)
57. A skull and crossbones?
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 09:49 PM
Tuesday

Seriously? I guess I know a lot of secret nazis then...I too was expecting a swastika.

I know a lot of men in my age group, who as young men, got skull and crossbones tats.

Jack Valentino

(3,736 posts)
62. Yeah.... it was widely used in pirate ship flags in the 1600's and 1700's by pirates,
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 09:54 PM
Tuesday

long before there was any association with the German Nazi party,
which was not formed until the 1920's.....


stumpysbear

(252 posts)
66. Yeah and the Swastika is a Buddhist symbol
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 09:59 PM
Tuesday

Yet I don’t recommend you tattoo one to your chest unless you are a literal nazi sympathizer

LudwigPastorius

(13,660 posts)
72. It ain't a pirate flag symbol.
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 10:34 PM
Tuesday

It is clearly the Totenkopf the was worn by the Nazi SS who ran the death camps.

Jack Valentino

(3,736 posts)
76. Possibly---- I couldn't see it clearly enough from the video offered
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 10:40 PM
Tuesday

to know WHAT the fuck it was---

and maybe I'm not as educated about 'nazi symbols' as YOU claim to be !

Response to Jack Valentino (Reply #38)

QueerDuck

(346 posts)
222. Good question. Only when it's politically expedient...
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 07:19 PM
Wednesday

rather than when he was aware of what it meant. A strategic cover up rather than a moral or ethical decision that should have been made years and years ago.

yaesu

(8,668 posts)
3. Tattoo resembles an SS deaths head, I respect Sen Sanders and his hard work as a progressive but it will be up to voters
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 07:05 PM
Tuesday

Last edited Wed Oct 22, 2025, 02:56 PM - Edit history (1)

to do proper vetting of any candidate. Even if he had it removed, which he said he would do, it wouldn't matter as it is a part of his past.

Autumn

(48,499 posts)
120. Is there a better picture of it? In the interview and the video the opposition
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 09:20 AM
Wednesday

sent the tattoo was nothing but a bluish black blob. Do you have a link to a clearer picture of the tattoo he has that looks like a SS death hand? He says his tattoo is a skull and crossbones?

Disaffected

(5,960 posts)
6. Since when is a "skull and crossbones" necessarily
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 07:45 PM
Tuesday

a Nazi symbol? Would it be equally sensible to call him a bottle of toxic fluid or a pirate?

BTW, OTOH, I fail to see why he is Senate material anyhow - why is he qualified?

Disaffected

(5,960 posts)
23. Is it (literally)?
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 08:35 PM
Tuesday

All I can find in news coverage is terminology such as "appears similar to" or "consistent with" etc. I see nothing on the image that states SS or other Nazi affiliation and AFAIK, the "Totenkopf" is not exclusively a Nazi or SS symbol.

In any case, maybe he didn't realize the connotation at the time and I am willing, barring further information, to give him the benefit of the doubt.

I still wonder though why he is Senate material - what are his relevant qualifications?

John1956PA

(4,567 posts)
41. Until I read this thread, the double-headed-eagle art concept was not part of my knowledge.
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 09:23 PM
Tuesday

I do not know if, prior to getting the tattoo, Platner realized the concept had been co-opted by the Nazis. I think it may have existed before the Nazi Party was formed. Perhaps the drunken Platner picked the image from a catalog of suggestions at the tattoo shop.

Anyway, I do not see evidence that Platner has a Nazi-leaning mentality at this point.

As for his deciding not to have a tattooist ink over the image after he realized it could be construed to have Nazi-sympathizing connotations, I defer to his choice. It is an outright ugly image. Inking it over might make an even uglier mess on the skin of his chest. Having said that, I think that, if I had been in his position, I would have gone for some kind of tattoo revision to take the edge off of what many consider to be a Nazi logo.

As an aside, I do not think Platner has ever released a photo of the tattoo. He knew the fact of its existence would be getting out due to his entry in the Senate race. He seemed to have gotten ahead of the revelation by going public about it himself.

karynnj

(60,601 posts)
181. Maybe rather than inking completely over it, add a slash in a different color
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 03:40 PM
Wednesday

Then it could be NO Nazi or anti fascist.

Even drunk, I don't get choosing to have a tattoo drawn on you not knowing what it represented.

Even before this, I thought we had better choices. Especially because he seems to have remade who he is. That suggests that we should want to see him for a pretty long period of time before electing him to a Senate seat. (Just as I thought Connor Lamb would be a better bet than Fetterman, who at least we had seen as mayor of a small town. )
.

John1956PA

(4,567 posts)
187. Yes. I had the same idea of the ink-over with a red-line slash. We think alike.
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 04:33 PM
Wednesday

Also, considering the time interval which was required to complete the tatt, he would have sobered up enough to know that what he was submitting to was wrong.

I have my doubts about the drunkenness scenario. I think he made that up based upon the line in Jimmy Buffet's song "Margaritaville."

Yes, maybe he was traumatized by his combat service. Maybe he suffered from PTSD which caused him to act out in a rebellious way. Maybe he has overcome that, and now he has the faculties to be a good senator. There are a lot of questions, but not everybody is going to be satisfied with the answers, which may prove to be sketchy. As started several times in this thread, it is up to the voters of Maine to sort it out to be best of their satisfaction.

karynnj

(60,601 posts)
200. Funny, I thought of the Buffet song too
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 05:34 PM
Wednesday

I would imagine getting a tattoo would be painful any time.

Jack Valentino

(3,736 posts)
39. AS IF some admittedly drunken Marines on liberty would KNOW that....
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 09:18 PM
Tuesday

I know what the SS was, but never heard of "Totenkopf" myself either.....


IbogaProject

(5,231 posts)
65. This candidate admits its a Nazi Tatoo
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 09:58 PM
Tuesday

The issue is he never got it blended into a different look. Or used the more recent laser tatoo removal.

Autumn

(48,499 posts)
148. Do you have a link to a picture of his actual tattoo. In the video
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 12:07 PM
Wednesday

the opposition that they sent him they are using you can only see a dark blob. You seen the actual tattoo or are you taking their word for it? If you have a link to his tattoo I would like to see it.

WhiskeyGrinder

(25,895 posts)
150. "In the video the opposition that they sent him they are using you can only see a dark blob."
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 12:23 PM
Wednesday

Not sure what you're saying here, but Platner himself provided the screenshots from the video. The dark blob has the exact outline of the Totenkopf. In some of the frames, you can see it has eyes. It's an SS Totenkopf.

stumpysbear

(252 posts)
63. It's not, except when it literally IS a nazi symbol
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 09:56 PM
Tuesday

Google Totenkopf. It’s not just a Jolly Roger.

Response to Disaffected (Reply #6)

jaymac

(70 posts)
133. Well
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 10:31 AM
Wednesday

we in Maine don't think Susie "I'm concerned" Collins hasn't been senate material for some time. I'm 80, my son has tattoos on his back and arms. I hate them but all his friends have them too. I knew a guy who went to OOB , got tipsy and had a Daffy Duck tattoo'd on his forearm. Fashion, fad, tom foolery, ...all sorts of Tatts out there, bet there's a scad of guys who wished they hadn't had it done. look at Platner's bio/history. he'll be a world better than ole susie Q

Autumn

(48,499 posts)
7. The guy says it was a drunken mistake. He didn't have to disclose
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 07:47 PM
Tuesday

it but he did. As for Bernie not rescinding his endorsement at least he didn't choose to not endorse him. I'm fine with it.

Autumn

(48,499 posts)
17. Yeah so? I have a small tattoo I have had for 35 years
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 08:20 PM
Tuesday

. I hate it but it's there. It's no big fucking deal. But hey, a damn good reason to go after Bernie it's been about a week.

tritsofme

(19,619 posts)
22. Someone who is unbothered by having symbols celebrating Nazism on his body
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 08:32 PM
Tuesday

over a span of decades, is completely unfit for office.

I thought it was only Republicans who had to make excuses for their candidates “Nazi problems”

Sanders standing by the Nazi tattoo guy is simply disgraceful.

Autumn

(48,499 posts)
25. I watched his interview, he's very open and admits to making
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 08:42 PM
Tuesday

some stupid Redit posts about things he knew nothing about. He's has learned different about those posts and he seems like a decent compassionate person. I don't have to vote for him. If you do you have a decision to make. IMO he's a thousand times better than Collins and like all who have served in war zones he has issues.

tritsofme

(19,619 posts)
27. It's kind of silly, at this point, to talk about him like he's still a serious candidate.
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 08:47 PM
Tuesday

Mills will be wiping the floor with Collins.

This Nazi tattoo guy should leave before Democrats have to deal with more of his embarrassing shit that is bound to trickle out.

Autumn

(48,499 posts)
33. It doesn't matter if you think he's a serious candidate or not.t
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 09:01 PM
Tuesday

He's a Democratic candidate .

JustAnotherGen

(37,293 posts)
169. I agree
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 03:03 PM
Wednesday

He's another glamour cat - like John Fetterman. Glitzy and shiny - but then the reality hits or the truth comes out.

Why doesn't this stuff exist on Lauren Underwood, Jasmine Crockett, Maxwell Frost, etc. etc.? Because by the time they were in their early early 20's and late teens -they knew better.

EllieBC

(3,586 posts)
53. So we are supposed to support candidates who
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 09:44 PM
Tuesday

tattoo Nazi symbols on themselves just because they have a D?

What’s next?

Jack Valentino

(3,736 posts)
44. Sounds more like an opportunity to "re-fight the 2016 presidential primary"
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 09:28 PM
Tuesday

while muddying the facts about the actual tattoo.......

I don't consider any "skull and crossbones" as an inherently 'Nazi' symbol---
It was a symbol of pirates long before then...... and of 'pirate radio' in the modern era.

If it was a SWASTIKA, that would be another thing altogether--- but it is not...


"MUCH ADO ABOUT NOTHING", OR---
ANOTHER opportunity to ATTACK Bernie Sanders, a JEW,
it seems to me....




tritsofme

(19,619 posts)
49. The guy isn't even pretending it's not a Nazi tattoo at this point, no reason to continue that charade.
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 09:34 PM
Tuesday

Response to sheshe2 (Reply #67)

Response to Post removed (Reply #69)

Jack Valentino

(3,736 posts)
75. I was not a 'Bernie Bro'--- and stood in line to vote for Hillary in the 2016 G.E.
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 10:36 PM
Tuesday

I have been a loyal Democratic voter since 1980.... making me a lot older than the 'Bernie bros'---
and was opposed to anyone who with-held their votes for Democratic candidates, whether in 2016 or 2024, or any OTHER year....

In 2016, I just happened to believe that Bernie Sanders would have been a better presidential nominee
than the person who won--- but I supported our party's candidate when the nomination was decided.


Funny thing--- while I stood in line to vote for her for 30 minutes,
I did not notice the conspicuous absence of A.A. voters
in a precinct which should have had a lot of AA voters coming to vote---
I didn't realize it until afterwards....

I think a black VP nominee would have helped AA turnout,
and should have been thought of as an absolute REQUIREMENT,
just after the first black President.....


Possibly Bernie Sanders would have found a black/African American VP candidate,
if he had been the nominee, but we'll never know now....

If he didn't, he would have been as WRONG as the person who won the nomination that year!




W_HAMILTON

(9,735 posts)
97. If you think black turnout was an issue, why would you support Sanders?
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 01:42 AM
Wednesday

Sanders has had some of the worst minority support of any major Democratic candidate in recent years.

Keepthesoulalive

(1,962 posts)
101. Bernie has made some questionable calls when it comes to candidates and surrogates
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 04:47 AM
Wednesday

A Nazi symbol is never good whether he does it or the other young men who are influenced by Nazi sympathizers. Symbols hurt just as much as slurs. Senator Sanders has some major blind spots which is why bros support him and some minorities do not.

Autumn

(48,499 posts)
42. Well the opposition found a video that was a wedding gag
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 09:27 PM
Tuesday

to his sister in law that the whole family enjoys and the opposition seem to think the skull and crossbones means one is a Nazi. I had a pirate costume one time that had a skull and crossbones but I was 10 years old. I really couldn't make out his tattoo but he says no one has ever seen it when he's at the beach and called him a Nazi.

Jack Valentino

(3,736 posts)
40. Ever tried to 'correct' a tattoo mistake yourself?
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 09:20 PM
Tuesday

If you ever have, please share the details with us!

WhiskeyGrinder

(25,895 posts)
47. People get tattoos covered all the time. Many, many tattooists are willing to cover/repurpose hate tattoos at a reduced
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 09:32 PM
Tuesday

rate. It's not hard.

Jack Valentino

(3,736 posts)
50. I don't accept your position that it is necessarily a "hate" tattoo, just for starters!
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 09:38 PM
Tuesday

SOME people very well-versed in historical symbols might think so---
but a lot more people would have no idea of any such possible connection---
particularly drunken Marines on liberty!

This is just a BULLSHIT attack of opportunity,
probably MOSTLY motivated by the fact that Platner had the 'misfortune'
to be endorsed by Bernie Sanders!

WhiskeyGrinder

(25,895 posts)
56. You don't have to. It's the actual SS Totenkopf tattoo.
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 09:48 PM
Tuesday
SOME people very well-versed in historical symbols might think so---
but a lot more people would have no idea of any such possible connection---
particularly drunken Marines on liberty!
If someone gets a nazi tattoo and says they don't know it's a nazi tattoo, it's still a nazi tattoo.

This is just a BULLSHIT attack of opportunity,
probably MOSTLY motivated by the fact that Platner had the 'misfortune'
to be endorsed by Bernie Sanders!
It's not that deep. It's just some yahoo with a nazi tattoo thinking he should be a senator, that's all.

Jack Valentino

(3,736 posts)
64. or can see some motives that some people will never admit to....
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 09:57 PM
Tuesday

and this OP seems to attack Bernie Sanders for refusing to rescind his endorsement
much more than attacking Platner for having the tattoo---

so anybody with 2 brains cells to rub together can see what the real motive is here...
it isn't rocket science....

QueerDuck

(346 posts)
109. I'm chuckling too 🤣😂
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 08:42 AM
Wednesday

Political paranoia and CT delusions are amusing and sad at the same time. Just another symptom of the deep division and resentment that remains.

MarineCombatEngineer

(16,330 posts)
113. ....
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 08:51 AM
Wednesday
SOME people very well-versed in historical symbols might think so---
but a lot more people would have no idea of any such possible connection---
particularly drunken Marines on liberty!


That's exactly how I got my tattoo during a drunken foray into Da Nang with a few of my Marine buddies.

I'm with you on this.

LetMyPeopleVote

(171,858 posts)
219. The candidate evidently knew that it was a NAZI tattoo for a long time and called this NAZI tattoo by it correct name
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 06:53 PM
Wednesday

The candidate evidently has known that this tattoo was a NAZI tattoo for a long time
https://jewishinsider.com/2025/10/graham-platner-ss-tattoo-maine-senate/

But according to a person who socialized with Platner when he was living in Washington, D.C., more than a decade ago, Platner had specifically acknowledged that the tattoo was a Totenkopf, the “death’s head” symbol adopted by an infamous Nazi SS unit that guarded concentration camps in World War II.

“He said, ‘Oh, this is my Totenkopf,’” the former acquaintance told Jewish Insider recently, speaking on the condition of anonymity to address a sensitive issue. “He said it in a cutesy little way.”

The exchange occurred in 2012 at Tune Inn, a popular dive on Capitol Hill where Platner later worked as a bartender and was a frequent patron while he attended The George Washington University on the G.I. bill, according to the former acquaintance. He would often take his shirt off drinking with friends late at night at the bar, and on at least one occasion had stated he knew what the tattoo represented, the former acquaintance recalled.

kacekwl

(8,730 posts)
138. I'm pretty sure Sen. Sanders has
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 10:55 AM
Wednesday

had a conversation with him and is satisfied with his explanation. I trust Sanders wisdom and judgment.

Autumn

(48,499 posts)
149. I think the same thing.
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 12:10 PM
Wednesday

I doubt anyone having a hissy fit watched the interview when he posted the video they are going after him for.

DoBW

(2,871 posts)
227. I'm with Sanders, the whole thing stnks of Miller
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 07:46 PM
Wednesday

It's all gaming for Collins (my take). I trust Sanders. I think Platner is one of the good guys, which makes him a target

Response to tritsofme (Original post)

Jack Valentino

(3,736 posts)
46. We denounce EVERY Republican candidate, just for being a Republican!!!
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 09:31 PM
Tuesday

I don't see this actual tattoo as being ANY kind of 'disqualifier'---
and Bernie Sanders, who is a JEW, doesn't think so either!


EllieBC

(3,586 posts)
9. I'm glad to see so many are fine with this
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 07:59 PM
Tuesday

type of “drunken mistake” that he has not had removed all this time. But It’s just Jews though who might he hurt or offended so it’s fine. Any other group targeted that this guy would have a tattoo of would have sparked 1028251526 reply threads here demanding he be drawn and quartered.

EllieBC

(3,586 posts)
54. So am I.
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 09:45 PM
Tuesday

And just because he’s willing to back somebody with Nazi tattoos because they have a D next to their name doesn’t mean I will. He doesn’t get to speak for all of us, thanks.

Cha

(315,261 posts)
93. Really.. Mahalo, Ellie... It looks like
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 12:09 AM
Wednesday

More than a few on this Thread are Speaking for themselves.

DFW

(59,205 posts)
248. Being a Jew doesn't give someone a free pass. Guess who else is a Jew?
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 01:47 AM
Thursday

Benjamin Netanyahu and every member of the Israeli government that authorized recent excesses on their part. Meyer Lansky was a Jew, too. It’s being very simplistic, I think, and not a rationalization I accept.

DFW

(59,205 posts)
252. The National Socialists were definitely NOT nice people.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 02:33 AM
Thursday

Fifty years ago, when I first started spending time in Germany, I would occasionally run into the odd unrepentant “Parteigenosse.” Made my skin crawl.

BeerBarrelPolka

(1,926 posts)
259. I used to go to a bar
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 05:18 AM
Thursday

In Chicago in the late 80s. It was a German bar in a German part of town. There were some old Hitler youth guys that would go in there regularly. They still swore their allegiance to Hitler.

IcyPeas

(24,498 posts)
19. And now the republicans can forever say that democrats support nazis
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 08:24 PM
Tuesday

Because we know that's what they do. If a Democrat so much as jaywalks it is blasted all over fox news for days and will be brought up thereafter every time they need ammo to use it against us. Hello bothsiderism, just perfect.

Wait til trump gets a hold of this.....

And yeah, I've watched enough tattoo tv shows to know it can be removed or reworked.

Goddammit.

EX500rider

(12,061 posts)
26. That's my problem with it, yeah maybe u got it while dead drunk but why wouldn't you cover it with another tattoo?
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 08:46 PM
Tuesday

ASAP

RandySF

(78,712 posts)
28. I was young once.
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 08:53 PM
Tuesday

But I didn’t get a Nazi tattoo. Economics is everything to Bernie and hurts his judgment on everything else.

tritsofme

(19,619 posts)
32. Nope, this is bad news for Collins. With Nazi tattoo guy no longer a factor in the primary, Mills can turn toward the GE
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 08:58 PM
Tuesday

and get to work on taking out Collins a lot quicker.

DFW

(59,205 posts)
251. Very true
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 02:24 AM
Thursday

For that reason, I don’t think Platner will drop out so quickly. He has time to hope this blows over. If he’s wrong, he’s no worse off than he is now. He doesn’t have much to lose by trying to weather the storm a while longer, even though it has become a major distraction he would love to see the back of. He is obviously not a National Socialist, and no one trying to pin that label on him will be successful.

His timing and political acumen are a different story, however. They are fair game, and I think he’s more than a little vulnerable there. His chances would improve with the endorsement of a popular Independent member of the Senate. But that, of course, would be Angus King, who is also from Maine. That is an endorsement that Platner doesn’t have. Given King’s normally cautious nature, I’m not sure it will ever be given, either. King and Janet Mills have known each other and worked together for a very long time, and Platner would have to impress the hell out of Senator King to win his endorsement away from Janet.

oasis

(53,085 posts)
35. Getting a nazi tattoo is an affirmation of one's
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 09:11 PM
Tuesday

beliefs in Nazi ideology. Refusal to remove said tattoo after many years would indicate a lingering attachment.
Not a good look for a “Democrat” running for any office.

Jack Valentino

(3,736 posts)
55. It's NOT a FUCKING SWASTIKA, for Christ Sake!!!! That's the only 'Nazi tattoo' I know about!
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 09:46 PM
Tuesday

I might STILL get a "skull and crossbones" tattoo MYSELF,
as a symbol of 'pirate radio' !


Seems like more of an "opportunity to get rid of a candidate endorsed by Bernie Sanders", to ME!

If Bernie Sanders, a JEW, doesn't have a problem with it---
then I suspect the people raising shit about it have more of a problem with the fact
that it was SANDERS who endorsed Platner, than with Platner---

because they are STILL re-fighting the 2016 presidential primaries,
and can't stop carrying their grudge against him!

oasis

(53,085 posts)
60. Newsflash! Bernie Sanders is not 100% right
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 09:52 PM
Tuesday

on every issue.
He gives the guy a pass, I don’t.

Jack Valentino

(3,736 posts)
80. I don't think Bernie Sanders is 100% right on any issue either,
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 10:47 PM
Tuesday

nor is Hillary Clinton, nor her 2016 supporters,
nor President Biden, nor President Obama,
nor President Clinton, Kennedy or Roosevelt....

Probably you are not a Democratic primary voter in Maine,
and neither am I...

BUT----
"Not good enough, Bernie! Not NEARLY Good Enough!"


oasis

(53,085 posts)
88. "Not good enough, Bernie etc".
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 11:10 PM
Tuesday

If you’re claiming that I wrote anything that diminished the positive accomplishments of Sen.Sanders, then you are wrong.
He’s human, he’s not perfect, and there have been times when he could’ve been more proactive. That said, I’m satisfied Sen. Sanders (I) has been a vote Democrats could consistently count on.
I’ll just leave it at that.

Jack Valentino

(3,736 posts)
89. Probably I was just ranting at the direction of this thread, reminding me of previous threads
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 11:14 PM
Tuesday

going back many years..... and slipped in at some higher response position.... nothing personal intended!


QueerDuck

(346 posts)
114. Thank you! The "pirate radio" excuse sounds even sillier...
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 08:53 AM
Wednesday

and more ridiculous now. Embarrassing!

DFW

(59,205 posts)
254. Saved me the trouble, thanks!
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 02:47 AM
Thursday

The Totenkopf of the Waffen SS does not resemble the Jolly Roger, and both are easily distinguished from one another. If you’re getting a tattoo, making a flag, or sewing an emblem on your uniform, you don’t need a PhD in history to tell the difference. If you say you’re sorry for your choice, I can believe it. If you say you didn’t know the difference, I don’t.

fujiyamasan

(796 posts)
82. Swastikas are not the only fucking Nazi symbol
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 10:49 PM
Tuesday

You may want to let this go. You’re embarrassing yourself. Even after being educated about this symbol you keep pushing your ignorance.

Not a good look to be honest — for you or Sanders.

LuvLoogie

(8,364 posts)
43. The equivocating and lack of urgency
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 09:27 PM
Tuesday

on Platners part is classic white male privilege. Never having it be an issue or one that is overconcerning is indicative of centering past youthful male indulgence over current political realities. The trauma felt by others over that symbol is being negotiated for this man's political ambitions. At some point it tips into narcissism.

This guy and Bernie should let it go.

canetoad

(19,719 posts)
45. If Bernie endorsed him
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 09:31 PM
Tuesday

NOT knowing about the tattoo, he's only being consistent with Democratic principles. Important difference.

CoopersDad

(3,248 posts)
52. 🚧 ⁉️ Platner says he'll remove tattoo that resembles Nazi symbol
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 09:40 PM
Tuesday

3 hours ago:


By Jessica Piper
10/21/2025 06:09 PM EDT


Democratic Maine Senate hopeful Graham Platner expressed regret over getting a tattoo that appears similar to a Nazi symbol nearly two decades ago and plans to have it removed, his latest mea culpa after a week of damning headlines over resurfaced social media posts.

Platner’s campaign sought to front-run opposition research about his tattoo — which resembles a Nazi skull and crossbones — during an appearance on the liberal podcast Pod Save America on Monday, with his campaign sharing a video of him dancing shirtless. Platner said he had no idea of any Nazi link when he got the tattoo.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/21/graham-platner-tattoo-nazi-00617686


relayerbob

(7,300 posts)
68. Platner regrets it now .....
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 10:10 PM
Tuesday

Last edited Tue Oct 21, 2025, 10:49 PM - Edit history (1)

But has been ok with seeing it everyday for 20 years? The only thing he regrets is that he got outed. His Blackwater employment record will be harder to remove.

Sanders is being Sanders, he also dumped on Democrats on The View a few days ago. He is not a Democrat, he only chooses to say he is when he wants our support. I supported him for awhile in 2015 and early 2016, until he showed his true colors.

betsuni

(28,488 posts)
163. October 20th.
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 01:47 PM
Wednesday

Again, the "economic anxiety" claim that Democrats made people vote for Trump because they "looked at Democrats and said, What do you stand for? What side are you on?" Huh?

Easterncedar

(5,120 posts)
73. Nonsense. It wasn't seen as a nazi tattoo when he got it
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 10:35 PM
Tuesday

Skull and crossbones may not be pretty, but the military, which at the time didn’t allow tattoos of questionable meaning, didn’t object to it.

Sanders knows this.

Who benefits from pressing the issue? Who wants to discredit Bernie?

Platner’s reddit remarks seem less defensible than the dumb tat, if you want to pick on something.

Mossfern

(4,475 posts)
146. I may be naive
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 11:46 AM
Wednesday

but I would have just seen it as a variation of a skull and crossbones symbol
While I was laid up for a bit I watched junk TV and found this British Show "Tattoo Fixers" - it's about people getting regrettable tattoos covered. (some really talented artists BTW)

Anyway - quite often they use a skull as a coverup. No one questions the origin of the symbol - it's just a tattoo skull - a very popular image.

Nevertheless, once someone points it out - a considerate/wise person would think about a cover up or laser removal. Both are mighty expensive. Do people really think that this candidate is a Nazi sympathizer? I do question his comment on Reddit about Black people and tipping - that's just is pure racism no matter what the excuse. If he planned to go into public service then he should have the common sense not to post such trash on such a popular platform. We need to pick our battles in order to win.

Is there any reason to support him?
Can he win the seat?
Does his lack of common sense disqualify him immediately out of the gate?
Is there a better Democratic candidate?

Sorry I haven't been following this.
Recovering from anesthesia right now-- feeling fine .......

Alice B.

(656 posts)
183. I know that show, lol
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 03:44 PM
Wednesday

I read his options were limited, logistically speaking and in terms of removal, etc.

Someone elsewhere here discussed how we might react to a Republican in the same situation. To me, it would depend on how they responded to questions about the tattoo. If they’re Hegseth unrepentant, that would be disqualifying. But if they understood the problem and were willing to address it? I can find other things to criticize a Republican for.

I have several myself for what it’s worth. No problematic imagery. Mine are specific and meaningful to me, not the result of drunken shore leave or whathaveyou. But yes, I know of enough dudes who picked “flash” art out of books based on “looking bada**.”

Whether art is commercial or fine, a whole lot of people have very little grasp of symbolism and meaning in imagery. There was a mystery book I once read where girls were getting characters the artist plucked from a Chinese restaurant menu and passing off as meaning something else. Did not sound far fetched to me.

I missed when and how he became aware but would have to see him speak on that and the time/thought process behind getting it covered before deciding how bothered to be.

fujiyamasan

(796 posts)
79. Maybe this guy really was ignorant
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 10:45 PM
Tuesday

And thought it was just some dumb drunken tattoo years ago. Maybe he actually thought it was “just a skull” and didn’t know the Nazi connotation behind his exact tattoo, which can’t be mistaken. Anyone mixing it up with a pirate flag is being purposely obtuse. It’s clearly the SS version.

Either no one called it out all these years, because anyone that saw it was also too clueless to know the meaning behind it… or someone did and he decided he didn’t want to go through with the removal.

Either way, I’m not sure why anyone is defending it now. It’s not a good look.

relayerbob

(7,300 posts)
84. That said, I doubt his Democratic party creds are
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 10:52 PM
Tuesday

what got him a job at Blackwater. Seems likely he knew at the time, or was told later on.

Easterncedar

(5,120 posts)
130. It was the attack on Bernie that got me riled
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 10:18 AM
Wednesday

Platner has impressed my friends who have heard him. I wanted to believe he could be genuine.

Janet Mills is, unfairly, like Fauci, genuinely loathed by a significant portion of Maine’s population. I don’t see her defeating Collins. I wish I did.

fujiyamasan

(796 posts)
242. If it weren't for all the baggage (this and the Reddit comments)
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 12:53 AM
Thursday

He’d probably be a decent candidate. Maine definitely has an independent streak. The optics of a former marine and oyster farmer facing Susan Collin’s would have been great.

I don’t think this guy is a secret Nazi or anything, but if it’s true what the friend said about Platner knowing the true meaning of the tattoo over ten years ago , I think he should drop out. The issue then is, why didn’t he have the judgment to get it covered or removed since then?

He seems to be trying to get ahead of the news and be transparent about all of the stuff, which is surprisingly rare in a politician but I have to wonder about his judgment in the first place about some of the stupid stuff he said. The stuff about black people tipping , the gay “jokes”, disparaging cops and calling white people dumb in one of the whitest states in the country, and of course claiming to be a communist — at this point it has become way too distracting.

herding cats

(19,915 posts)
91. Oh, man.
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 11:29 PM
Tuesday

My mistake. So, here's my thoughts in context after seeing this in regards to Bernie.

Bernie is a good guy who votes with the Dems consistently. I respect him for that.

However, he's not always right and he's stubborn to a fault. He's a human.

This guy, in this current environment, is a loser walking. Remove the tattoo at the very least before entering politics. Get out ahead of the issue LONG before now. He's made too many tactical errors already. The position he running for is a major seat. He's not even remotely ready, IMO.

Having said that, it's not my state and I'm just ruminating here. Ultimately it's their choice, and let's face it, their track record isn't stellar.

Cha

(315,261 posts)
95. Aloha Cat... Yeah, it's not our State...
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 12:26 AM
Wednesday

but We all have a Stake in Getting a Dem to Replace Concerned Collins in the Senate.

Our Democracy We're Fight For and We Want the Best to Run Against the Traitor Schmoozer.

lostincalifornia

(4,765 posts)
96. A lot of this reminds me of the arguments about Fetterman over Connor Lamb, because Connor Lamb
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 12:35 AM
Wednesday

was "just another establishment Democrat", and Fetterman was the "real deal".

That worked out real well.

What do people really know about Platner?

and it is more than just a tatoo

?

" Platner suggested political violence is necessary to affect social change in a 2018 post. The Washington Post reported Platner downplayed concerns about sexual assault in posts from 2013. CNN reported he labeled all White Americans in rural areas as racist and stupid in one 2020 post and said all cops are “bastards” in a 2021 post. The Bangor Daily News reported Platner asked why Black people “don’t tip” in a 2013 post.

The Reddit posts were deleted prior to announcing his campaign. Platner acknowledged making the posts and has apologized for them."

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/17/graham-platner-seeks-to-turn-the-page-on-his-online-comments-00614848

There is a pattern of behavior, and frankly I question his mental stability.



BannonsLiver

(19,807 posts)
98. Zero tolerance on things like this for me.
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 01:47 AM
Wednesday

If I lived in Maine I wouldn’t vote for him in the primary, not that I’m a fan of a 77 year old nominee, either, but it’s a bridge too far with this guy.

Dorian Gray

(13,839 posts)
102. There is right and there is wrong
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 04:53 AM
Wednesday

even if it was a mistake, there were remedies he could have taken.

I am sick to my stomach about all the people in this country willing to excuse Nazi statements and symbols when it's their in-group projecting it to us.

No. I am not in Maine, so it's not up to me. But I am very disturbed by this.

Cha

(315,261 posts)
235. We don't have to be in Maine to have
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 10:34 PM
Wednesday

an important Stake in Maine's Very Critical Senate Race.

It's vital Maine gets the best Democratic Opponent to Collins in the Primary.
We can Help from afar.

Mahalo, Dorian Gray

Tim S

(49 posts)
103. So, Senator Sanders wants to ignore the color on Platner's skin & judge him by his character?
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 05:03 AM
Wednesday

Imagine if MORE people did that?

I care more about what a candidate proposes to do for their constituents than what personal appearance choices they made in the past for two reasons: (1) tattoos don’t affect the ability to govern, and (2) someone else’s tattoos are none of my business.

If someone is espousing vile ideologies, I won’t vote for them and may campaign against them. But reading a book by its cover & then pearl-clutching rarely advances a society.

uponit7771

(93,327 posts)
142. If PoC sported I want to murder white people symbols doubt if Sanders would endorse them
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 11:09 AM
Wednesday

W_HAMILTON

(9,735 posts)
174. I don't want another Fetterman -- do you?
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 03:19 PM
Wednesday

This guy has raised all sorts of red flags and the only thing that indicates he is a progressive is his words. And talk is cheap. I don't want to get burned by another Sanders-endorsed """progressive""" that gets elected and turns on us. Fetterman also had red flags, but he said the right things at the time and he fooled lots of people.

Surely out of the entire state of Maine, progressives can field a better candidate than this guy.

EX500rider

(12,061 posts)
236. So a Grand Wizard KKK tattoo would be no big deal then? Cause this is worse then that IMO
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 10:40 PM
Wednesday

Tim S

(49 posts)
261. Really?
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 06:59 AM
Thursday

Disqualifying someone for simply having a tattoo is prejudice and discrimination. The Democratic Party used to fight against such behavior.

I don’t know this person’s platform. If I did, maybe I’d vehemently oppose him. But disqualifying him solely for an old tattoo that isn’t normally on public display sounds like something a GOP’er would do.

I thought we were better than that.

EX500rider

(12,061 posts)
262. Not for simply having a tattoo
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 09:43 AM
Thursday

Having a Nazi SS tattoo that the Concentration Camp guards who killed 6 plus million people in gas chambers wore is pretty sick to most people. YMMV

Having it for 18 years unchanged is even worse.

W_HAMILTON

(9,735 posts)
175. Gabbard. Joy Gray. Turner. Fetterman. This guy.
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 03:21 PM
Wednesday

I'm not sure there is anyone's judgment that I trust less...

no_hypocrisy

(53,555 posts)
106. While I trust Bernie, all the same, if I were Platner, I would do one of two things:
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 06:45 AM
Wednesday

get the tattoo removed/covered and publicize it, or vociferously denounce Nazis, the Klan, and MAGA on a regular basis.

Mike Nelson

(10,805 posts)
107. Interesting discussion and points made by all...
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 07:31 AM
Wednesday

... in this thread. I enjoyed reading and learning. I don't hold Mr. Planter's tattoo against him... it's not, to most, an obvious Nazi symbol like the Swastika. I would never have known. However, I would wonder -- When did Planter become aware of its meaning, and what did he consider? I would have the tattoo altered, which is common. I have a friend who got a Star of David tattoo and had no idea it was anything other than a star he liked! He is not Jewish, but decided to keep the tattoo. I have a relative who had an image of the Confederate Flag on the top of his car. It was not as big as the one on the "Dukes of Hazzard" TV show. After the discussions went from "way cool" to what the flag meant to African-American friends, he removed the flag. So, I would want to hear about what Planter's views are... we can't throw everyone out of the Democratic Party for old mistakes.

Shrek

(4,347 posts)
117. "Don't have a Nazi death-head symbol on your body" seems like a low bar for a Democrat n/t
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 09:08 AM
Wednesday

Mysterian

(6,043 posts)
111. This guy seems to be swirling the bowl at this point
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 08:48 AM
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Democrats in Maine have some better choices.

betsuni

(28,488 posts)
116. Nazi tattoo: fine. Dem campaign funds: Corrupt! Billionaire oligarchs! No taking on, no fighting for working class! Bad!
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 08:56 AM
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"What do you stand for? What side are you on?"

Not surprised.

ShadesOfBlue

(101 posts)
119. Sanders is very used to making excuses....
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 09:19 AM
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for anyone from the mythic white “working class.”

Mysterian

(6,043 posts)
122. I'd be open to hear Sanders explain more about why he thinks this guy has changed
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 09:28 AM
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I am bothered by the fact the candidate did not remove the vile tattoo before running for office.

Emile

(38,562 posts)
124. Is this thread intended to dissuade people
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 09:41 AM
Wednesday

from supporting the Democratic Party or its candidates?

Response to Emile (Reply #124)

QueerDuck

(346 posts)
132. Perfectly acceptable during primaries, right?
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 10:30 AM
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We have no nominee yet... and it certainly looks like this fellow won't be the one.

QueerDuck

(346 posts)
171. Well, yes... that's what I thought. Yet it seems like some have already "anointed" him as the party's nominee...
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 03:07 PM
Wednesday

and want to just skip right to the general election. It's so weird. This is one of the REASONS we have primaries, right? To test a candidate's mettle? To observe their demeanor and suitability for office? To do some vetting of our own BEFORE the general election when such last-minute discoveries would make it too late to do anything about.

QueerDuck

(346 posts)
172. Ridiculous. Nobody is being "viciously denigrated."
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 03:11 PM
Wednesday

We're discussing whether someone has the demeanor and temperament for the job. We're looking at potential candidates under a high-powered microscope (as will obviously be done during the General Election season) to find flaws and character issues; and poor-judgement issues; and honesty issues... BEFORE it's too late with no "do-over" opportunities. Just because someone declares themselves a candidate in a Democratic PRIMARY does not mean that they should be given the same deference that candidates receive during the GENERAL. Check it out. Ask around. I think you'll find that I'm correct.

Emile

(38,562 posts)
179. Constructive criticism is okay. This could be construed as bashing. and comparing one
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 03:30 PM
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Democratic general election candidate unfavorably to their general election opponent(s).

QueerDuck

(346 posts)
190. LOL! Yes... that's what PRIMARIES are all about.
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 04:53 PM
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I understand your concern about negative campaigning and "bashing" ... however, the rule against actual (not imagined) bashing/attacking and insulting Democrats is intended for the general election, where the goal is to unite behind the party's nominee. We're not at that stage yet.

Reasonable adults understand that the PRIMARY process is, by its very nature, a contest where we evaluate and contrast the strengths and weaknesses of different candidates to choose the best one to represent the party. Pointing out a candidate's record or potential liabilities and baggage, or their demeanor and temperament, or any evidence of poor judgement and dishonesty, etc. is a standard part of that normal vetting process... and is not a violation of the general election rule.

Toughen-up. It's going to be a long road ahead.


Emile

(38,562 posts)
191. Bashing and tearing down our candidates is not constructive.
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 04:59 PM
Wednesday

It only helps the Republicans.

QueerDuck

(346 posts)
193. He's in a primary. He's not the anointed nominee. He must EARN that privilege and honor.
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 05:22 PM
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Face it... he has baggage. People are talking about it. That's not "bashing" that's just being honest. And if anyone thinks that the primary-season vetting is bad... and if a candidate can't weather this little squall of a storm... then there's absolutely no FN way that they would be able to cope with what comes during the General Election season.

The only thing that "helps the Republicans" is running weak and unvetted candidates with "secrets" that will backfire on us during the General Election season. This is all part of the process. Deal with it.

QueerDuck

(346 posts)
203. Nobody has done that... not that I can find in this thread. Every time the word "Nazi" is used...
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 05:38 PM
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... it's in reference to the tattoo, or explaining what the tattoo means and questioning the wisdom of sporting a Nazi symbol, etc etc etc. --- Nobody has said "He's a fucking Nazi" or anything like that. But I do think that the questions that this revelation raises is definitely worthy of further investigation and exploration.

It seems very foolish to ignore or dismiss something as fundamental as this, simply because Bernie Sanders has anointed him with an endorsement. The primary process does NOT stop with an endorsement from Bernie Sanders, you do realize that, right?

It's wrong to try and characterize everything as "bashing" simply to try and squelch legitimate criticism and questions about what motivated this, and why he hasn't been more forthcoming about it prior to this; why he kept it for so long; and how it was that he can believably claim that he "had no clue" what it meant for all this time. These are evasive tactics and diversions that fail to address the things that people/voters deserve to know.

Honestly, it's a sign of weakness that tells me that such things cannot withstand fair and serious scrutiny.

QueerDuck

(346 posts)
207. JFC, Emile! Give me a fucking break! You know perfectly well that I never said such a thing.
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 05:53 PM
Wednesday

Just stop. I said that he has baggage. People are justifiably questioning his judgement; his honesty; his temperament; his demeanor; his knowledge and understanding of history... oh, the list goes on and on. These are the things that people legitimately and rightfully want to know. The voters deserve explanations. We deserve to know the full truth.

He's not the right man for the job... and a Bernie Sanders endorsement is not enough to erase the questions people have or to make everyone willing to ignore the reasons for his bad decisions; and why it's take so long for him to do something about it (ie: only now, when it's politically beneficial, rather than YEARS AND YEARS ago.) All of these things are pieces of the puzzle that people need to put together to figure out if he's being honest and forthright, or if his past poor judgement (and his ability/inability to reconcile or correct it) are what the voters deserve.

This is serious stuff, and you can't just dismiss legitimate questions by claiming that everyone is "attacking" him.

QueerDuck

(346 posts)
212. LOL! That's not the topic of this thread, Emile.
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 06:10 PM
Wednesday

You and I have discussed it before. Were you not satisfied with my previous responses? What good purpose is served in rehashing such things... off topic... in this thread?

Good god. Give it a rest. Move on.

Emile

(38,562 posts)
214. Can you send me a link? I have no memory ever
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 06:17 PM
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discussing the NY Mayoral race with you.

QueerDuck

(346 posts)
215. Sorry. Not my problem.
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 06:32 PM
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It's unclear why anyone would want to go off topic here and engage in this type of personal badgering. Please stop. Move on.

QueerDuck

(346 posts)
217. Again. Not my problem. Deal with it.
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 06:45 PM
Wednesday

Sorry... Just so you know, and for future reference, I'm not into silly game playing, empty challenges, responding to baiting, off-topic gotchas and assorted sea lioning absurdities.

Adios!

betsuni

(28,488 posts)
250. Yes. He has to earn the votes. Feet held to the fire. People will vote their conscience. No cheerleaders.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 02:16 AM
Thursday

MichMan

(16,151 posts)
228. So, questioning him having a Nazi tattoo is fair game, but if he was to win the primary, we must defend him having it?
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 07:54 PM
Wednesday

QueerDuck

(346 posts)
231. He won't win.
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 07:59 PM
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The damage has been done. The truth is out.

Regarding your specific question, it does seem very odd, doesn't it?

W_HAMILTON

(9,735 posts)
176. There are other candidates in the Democratic primary, including one that is, in my opinion, MUCH preferable to this guy.
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 03:23 PM
Wednesday

Emile

(38,562 posts)
185. That's great you have a preference. But
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 04:30 PM
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comparing and bashing one Democratic general election candidate unfavorably to their general election opponent(s) is not great.

W_HAMILTON

(9,735 posts)
188. He doesn't have a general election opponent -- he has a Democratic primary opponent. Several, actually.
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 04:35 PM
Wednesday

Stacey Grove

(34 posts)
126. Just because one is ignorant of WW2 history
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 09:48 AM
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doesn't make the SS Death's Head any less a celebration of NSDAP.

DFW

(59,205 posts)
255. I'd even bet
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 03:00 AM
Thursday

Half the people who use their abbreviation don’t even know what NSDAP stands for without looking it up.

EX500rider

(12,061 posts)
265. To be fair, Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei is kinda of a mouthful.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 04:04 PM
Thursday

I knew what it stood for but had to look up the spelling as I am not a German speaker.

DFW

(59,205 posts)
266. The Europeans do love their abbreviations.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 05:52 PM
Thursday

In English, we usually just say “National Socialists,” although many people use the verbal abbreviation for Nationalsozialistische by using the first two syllables of the German pronunciation, which is “nah-tsee-oh-NAHL-zo-tsee-ahl-IST-ish-eh.” I still bet that most people who use the abbreviation “Nazi” have no clue that it means “National Socialist.” I was born after the National Socialists’ “Third Reich,” but I did get to experience their immediate successors, the Sozialistische Einheitspartei Deutschlands, the Socialist Unity Party of (East) Germany, as well as Castro’s Cuba and the “mild” versions in France of Mitterand and the even milder Hollande. None of were places I would ever want to live, and all were places that more people wanted to leave than move to. I don’t imagine that a country run by “Democratic” Socialists would end up being much different, but I’m in no hurry to find out.

I speak German, am married to a German and live in Germany. Our daughters are fully bilingual. My family and I are used to mouthfuls. My younger daughter went to law school in the USA, and in one class, the students were all asked to read aloud brief portions of a case involving VW. The company’s full name was written out in italics in mid-sentence in the portion that landed in my daughter’s passage: Volkswagenaktiensgesellschaft. My daughter, who grew up here in Germany, breezed right through the word without stopping, while the rest of her class and the professor gaped and said WHOA!! She looked at them with a “what’s da big deal?” look, and reminded them, “I’m German!” I only WISH I had the video!

Quiet Em

(2,371 posts)
136. A week or so ago Senator Sanders said that Governor Mills should exit the race
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 10:40 AM
Wednesday

because he didn't want a divisive primary. Well, it's Platner that is making the primary divisive. If the goal here is to run against the Democratic party and not Republicans and the Republican agenda, I don't believe there will be an appetite for that.

kacekwl

(8,730 posts)
147. The head of the DoD has what some consider a nazi tatoo
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 11:55 AM
Wednesday

and Republicans are ok with it. How about you listen to his words and beliefs before we dump another Democrat down the drain. He said it wss a mistake until something he says or does changes that we will see.

Maru Kitteh

(30,867 posts)
151. Republicans being ok with Nazis isn't new and it's not a problem for Democrats.
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 12:39 PM
Wednesday

Democrats being ok with and making excuses for Nazi stuff with other Democrats, harms Democrats.

Shit is not fair. But we need to realize one really important thing, it’s fine to have a bunch of incompetent Nazis hanging around if you are the party tearing everything down, because it doesn’t matter if they’re any good or not. They’re not there to be competent. They’re not there to be effective. They’re where they are to tear things up and break them.

It’s not ok to hire a bunch of screw-ups and make excuses for their bad judgment if you are the party of making the systems work better for the people. That requires seriousness, competence and good judgment. This guy would be another Fetterman, but that’s extraordinarily unlikely now. It’s absolutely gobsmacking that he’s whining about reporters digging up his reddit posts. REALLY? You want a seat in the Senate of the United States of America and you didn’t think they would look through your old reddits? You think that’s unfair? Jesus Christ that’s some blazing, incandescently poor judgment.

uponit7771

(93,327 posts)
246. The symbols on his body aren't his words and beliefs?!?; Some privileged right there man
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 01:10 AM
Thursday

... again, more than half of democratic voters can't afford to ignore that.

He can have them removed

That's what MAGA does, gives Trump a pass on racism cause it doesn't affect them as much when eventually it'll affect them a lot.

W_HAMILTON

(9,735 posts)
186. Maybe so, but I wasn't fooled by a lot of other questionable characters Sanders has surrounded himself with...
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 04:32 PM
Wednesday

...like Gabbard, Turner, etc.

I think we need to start judging our progressive candidates by their progressive accomplishments and not simply whether they support Sanders/Sanders supports them.

sheshe2

(94,513 posts)
232. Not everyone.
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 08:18 PM
Wednesday

Not my state, but it was an important race and I paid attention. It should have been a big turnoff for everyone after Fetterman chased a black jogger in his truck and held him in place with a rifle until the police arrived. Why did he do that? He thought he heard gunshot.

OilemFirchen

(7,288 posts)
145. My stepfather had a Nazi tattoo.
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 11:30 AM
Wednesday

FTR, it didn't look like a Nazi tattoo, yet the Nazis insisted upon it when he checked in at Mauthausen.

Klarkashton

(4,436 posts)
152. If it's a skull with what looks like the bones are coming
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 12:41 PM
Wednesday

Out of the ears it's THE totenkopf.

Maru Kitteh

(30,867 posts)
159. One poster says they will get their own Nazi tattoo now because Bernie
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 01:07 PM
Wednesday

Is okay with it and something about pirates. I don’t understand personality cults and their power to utterly supplant reason in people. I guess I never will. I can’t wrap my head around even threatening to tattoo NAZI SYMBOLS on my skin, because of some obscure nuance discussed on a message board about what some politician said about a failing Senate candidate that NOBODY will know about in six months. Hurts my brain.

msfiddlestix

(8,147 posts)
165. Abhorrent and shocking! Seriously disappointed with Sanders. I feel like maybe reaching cognitive disorders?
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 02:36 PM
Wednesday

Response to tritsofme (Original post)

FadedMullet

(542 posts)
178. I'm going to give Plantner a pass on this until I hear more from him and another pass to Sanders for the......
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 03:28 PM
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......same reason. I prefer that we choose not to eat our own at every opportunity.

FadedMullet

(542 posts)
241. If you are comfortable with the information that you have, to be able to call him a Nazi, then you must have......
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 11:59 PM
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......more information than many of us here. Bernie included.

Rob H.

(5,739 posts)
192. And yet Pelosi, Hoyer, Jeffries, and Clyburn endorsed Henry Cuellar,
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 05:18 PM
Wednesday

the target of an active criminal investigation by the FBI, and people seemed to barely notice and/or supported him anyway because he was a milquetoast centrist Democrat, despite him being anti-choice and less progressive than his primary opponent.

Getting a tattoo when you're young and stupid isn't a crime; good thing, too, otherwise lots of people would be in jail for it.

Edit: he says he's since gotten it covered and he should show proof, imo.

Rob H.

(5,739 posts)
202. As I edited my post above, Platner says he's since gotten it covered
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 05:37 PM
Wednesday

I'd like to see proof, though.

Rob H.

(5,739 posts)
205. Cuellar was subsequently indicted for bribery, conspiracy to commit bribery,
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 05:46 PM
Wednesday

money laundering, conspiracy to commit honest services wire fraud, and acting as a foreign agent. In exchange for the bribes he allegedly took from Mexico and Azerbaijan, he agreed to perform official acts and influence U.S. legislation and executive branch officials.

But hey, endorsing, recording robocalls, and making campaign appearances supporting a candidate accused of multiple felonies is okay because at least Cuellar didn't get a tattoo in his 20s that he subsequently disavowed and covered.

QueerDuck

(346 posts)
208. Yes... covered, but only just now... when it's politically expedient.
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 05:57 PM
Wednesday

Questions remain about why it took so long. When did he first learn that it was a Nazi symbol? Why didn't he do anything about it sooner? These are legitimate questions that people deserve honest answer too... not evasive answers, not "youthful indiscretion" excuses.

A perfunctory and reactive response of "There! It's covered! Happy now?!" doesn't tell voters what we deserve to know.

Bluestocking

(357 posts)
210. If he is not smart enough to know that he has a nazi concentration camp symbol
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 06:07 PM
Wednesday

On his chest for all these years than he is not smart enough to be a US senator.

everyonematters

(3,945 posts)
211. There is nothing in this guys bio that suggests he is a racist.
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 06:10 PM
Wednesday

His explanation for getting the tattoo is reasonable for a young man in the military. I did stupid things when I was a young man in the Marines. This reaction is typical of the base of both parties.

LetMyPeopleVote

(171,858 posts)
220. MaddowBlog-Maine's Graham Platner faces difficult questions about his record -- and a tattoo
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 07:06 PM
Wednesday

Once a Senate candidate reaches the point at which he has to deny being a secret Nazi, his campaign isn’t quite where it should be.



https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/maines-graham-platner-faces-difficult-questions-record-tattoo-rcna239152

Things changed, however, when Platner’s honeymoon period came to a rather sudden end.

The first sign of trouble came to the fore last week, when Politico reported that Platner “once suggested in online posts that violence is a necessary means to achieving social change.” Around the same time, CNN reported on since-deleted comments Platner had made online in which he “once called himself a ‘communist,’ dismissed ‘all’ police as bastards, and said rural White Americans ’actually are’ racist and stupid.”

The candidate disavowed his earlier rhetoric, but other revelations soon followed. Indeed, also last week, The Bangor Daily News reported that Platner also posted messages online in which he asked why Black people “don’t tip” and suggested people concerned about being raped shouldn’t be inebriated around people they don’t feel comfortable with.

After that report reached the public, Platner’s political director resigned.

That was late last week. This week, we learned about the Senate hopeful’s choice in tattoos. Politico reported:

Democratic Maine Senate hopeful Graham Platner expressed regret over getting a tattoo that appears similar to a Nazi symbol nearly two decades ago and plans to have it removed, his latest mea culpa after a week of damning headlines over resurfaced social media posts. ... Platner reiterated that he got the tattoo while out drinking with fellow Marines in Croatia, choosing the skull and crossbones off a wall at the tattoo parlor. He said the similarity to Nazi iconography never came up, including when he underwent physical exams mandated by the U.S. Army, which prohibits tattoos of identified hate symbols.


In other words, Platner’s defense is that he didn’t know he had a tattoo on his chest that resembles a Nazi symbol. What’s more, on Wednesday morning, he and his team said the image has now been covered......

Whether or not that’s true, once a Senate candidate reaches the point at which he has to deny being a secret Nazi, his campaign isn’t quite where it should be.

Democratic officials had already started rallying behind Mills, who has said she’ll only serve one term if elected. In light of the revelations about Platner’s record, it’s likely that party support will intensify. Watch this space.

ificandream

(11,481 posts)
233. Why is Twitter being considered a source?
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 08:21 PM
Wednesday

There's a rule in this website about using right-wing sources. I'm reporting it.

thought crime

(888 posts)
238. Seems like a lot of pearl clutching over some superficial nonsense from his military past.
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 11:15 PM
Wednesday

He seems like a good candidate for working class gains. Good enough for Bernie, good enough for me.

MichMan

(16,151 posts)
240. You don't see a problem with his homophobic statements?
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 11:42 PM
Wednesday

Or saying "Black people don't tip" ?

thought crime

(888 posts)
243. It is obviously a political problem. But I accept his explanation and apologies.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 12:59 AM
Thursday

Here's a more recent quote.

"They know that this is all nonsense. It is no surprise that these stories dropped within days of DC's chosen candidate getting into this race,” Platner said.

Emile

(38,562 posts)
260. IMO, It's shit stirring from the elite resistance wanting a centrist.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 05:58 AM
Thursday

So their shit stirring begins.

MichMan

(16,151 posts)
239. According to Sanders, it is the "corrupt campaign finance system" that deserves the blame
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 11:40 PM
Wednesday

Response to MichMan (Reply #239)

Celerity

(52,717 posts)
253. I agree with this. It's a bad look. He needs to walk away from a horribly vetted Platner.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 02:35 AM
Thursday

I was not a true Mills fan (she is too centrist for my taste and will be 85yo at the end of her first term, 91yo at the end of a 2nd term, if she ran again) but she is now our best chance IMHO, so I am now in her camp. That POS Collins has to go.

betsuni

(28,488 posts)
257. First rule: All dysfunction in government caused by money in politics, both sides controlled by billionaire oligarchs.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 04:06 AM
Thursday

The corrupt establishment Them whose only motivation is money and the incorruptible anti-establishment whose money is pure and nice because it's called "grassroots."

Cha

(315,261 posts)
267. Yes it does if you read all the information
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 05:59 PM
Thursday

associated with what Planter has said about it.

mucholderthandirt

(1,697 posts)
258. Then Sanders is wrong, and he needs to hear it from us.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 04:57 AM
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I don't care how someone had some tough shit in their lives. So did I. I never once looked at the Nazis as anything but evil. I never once tried to do someone else dirty for my own benefit. I never once killed anyone, raped anyone, stole from anyone. My childhood was horrible, but I was a liberal as far back as I can remember, I've always supported liberal and small-"D" causes.

There's no excuse for this nonsense. If the guy made a mistake, well, the ability to get tattoos removed as been around for decades. He should have gotten it removed. The end. Sanders needs to get his head out of his ass and stop supporting this guy.

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