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60. Newsflash! Bernie Sanders is not 100% right

Reply to Jack Valentino (Reply #55)

Tue Oct 21, 2025, 09:52 PM

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He gives the guy a pass, I don’t.

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Sanders refuses to rescind endorsement of candidate sporting Nazi tattoo [View all] tritsofme Tuesday OP

Then Why Didn't he have it Remvoed Cha Tuesday #1

Maybe because it isn't in a conspicuous location Raven123 Tuesday #2

it's right on his chest eShirl Tuesday #4

To me that's not obvious Raven123 Tuesday #5

Thank you for posting that video Very open and honest Autumn Tuesday #30

It's a totenkopf awesomerwb1 Tuesday #71

Did you watch his interview? He's a Democratic candidate and I will go with what he says. Autumn Wednesday #118

Oh I watched the video. awesomerwb1 Wednesday #158

Apparently he told a friend back in 2012 that he knew what it was. yardwork Wednesday #184

It's a hate symbol. EllieBC Tuesday #10

Does it matter where it is? He could easily have something tattooed over it EX500rider Tuesday #14

only in the sense that it's front & center eShirl Wednesday #131

That last, especially. DFW Thursday #245

A skull and crossbones is not inherently a 'nazi' symbol--- I associate it with pirate radio, myself, Jack Valentino Tuesday #38

A skull and crossbones? Bettie Tuesday #57

Yeah.... it was widely used in pirate ship flags in the 1600's and 1700's by pirates, Jack Valentino Tuesday #62

Yeah and the Swastika is a Buddhist symbol stumpysbear Tuesday #66

It ain't a pirate flag symbol. LudwigPastorius Tuesday #72

Possibly---- I couldn't see it clearly enough from the video offered Jack Valentino Tuesday #76

This message was self-deleted by its author Stacey Grove Wednesday #125

This was the insignia worn by guards at NAZI death camps LetMyPeopleVote Wednesday #156

This is the same symbol as the symbol on Himmler's hat LetMyPeopleVote Thursday #263

Good question. Only when it's politically expedient... QueerDuck Wednesday #222

According to this account he was aware... Cha Wednesday #224

😡🤬😡🤬 QueerDuck Wednesday #225

Tattoo resembles an SS deaths head, I respect Sen Sanders and his hard work as a progressive but it will be up to voters yaesu Tuesday #3

Is there a better picture of it? In the interview and the video the opposition Autumn Wednesday #120

Since when is a "skull and crossbones" necessarily Disaffected Tuesday #6

When it is actually literally the SS Totenkopf WhiskeyGrinder Tuesday #11

Is it (literally)? Disaffected Tuesday #23

Yes, it is. WhiskeyGrinder Tuesday #31

Until I read this thread, the double-headed-eagle art concept was not part of my knowledge. John1956PA Tuesday #41

Maybe rather than inking completely over it, add a slash in a different color karynnj Wednesday #181

Yes. I had the same idea of the ink-over with a red-line slash. We think alike. John1956PA Wednesday #187

Funny, I thought of the Buffet song too karynnj Wednesday #200

AS IF some admittedly drunken Marines on liberty would KNOW that.... Jack Valentino Tuesday #39

This candidate admits its a Nazi Tatoo IbogaProject Tuesday #65

Do you have a link to a picture of his actual tattoo. In the video Autumn Wednesday #148

"In the video the opposition that they sent him they are using you can only see a dark blob." WhiskeyGrinder Wednesday #150

It's not, except when it literally IS a nazi symbol stumpysbear Tuesday #63

This message was self-deleted by its author MarineCombatEngineer Wednesday #110

Well jaymac Wednesday #133

The guy says it was a drunken mistake. He didn't have to disclose Autumn Tuesday #7

A mistake he hasn't corrected in almost 20 years WhiskeyGrinder Tuesday #12

Yeah so? I have a small tattoo I have had for 35 years Autumn Tuesday #17

Tiny difference, your tattoo probably isn't celebrating Nazis. Unlike Bernie's guy tritsofme Tuesday #18

He owned up to it, it was a drunken mistake . Autumn Tuesday #21

Someone who is unbothered by having symbols celebrating Nazism on his body tritsofme Tuesday #22

I watched his interview, he's very open and admits to making Autumn Tuesday #25

It's kind of silly, at this point, to talk about him like he's still a serious candidate. tritsofme Tuesday #27

It doesn't matter if you think he's a serious candidate or not.t Autumn Tuesday #33

I'd be shocked if he makes it to the end of the week. tritsofme Tuesday #34

I agree JustAnotherGen Wednesday #169

So we are supposed to support candidates who EllieBC Tuesday #53

Amen!!!!!! MarineCombatEngineer Wednesday #135

Sounds more like an opportunity to "re-fight the 2016 presidential primary" Jack Valentino Tuesday #44

The guy isn't even pretending it's not a Nazi tattoo at this point, no reason to continue that charade. tritsofme Tuesday #49

Pfffffft. Jack Valentino Tuesday #51

How is this refighting the 2016 primary? sheshe2 Tuesday #67

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I was not a 'Bernie Bro'--- and stood in line to vote for Hillary in the 2016 G.E. Jack Valentino Tuesday #75

If you think black turnout was an issue, why would you support Sanders? W_HAMILTON Wednesday #97

bingo! sheshe2 Tuesday #85

Wasn't ME.... Jack Valentino Tuesday #87

2025 is where we are and what many here are talking about. nm sheshe2 Tuesday #86

Correct. Thank you! QueerDuck Wednesday #108

Bernie has made some questionable calls when it comes to candidates and surrogates Keepthesoulalive Wednesday #101

oh is it a nazi tattoo WhiskeyGrinder Tuesday #24

Well the opposition found a video that was a wedding gag Autumn Tuesday #42

Is it a Nazi tattoo? Iggo Wednesday #196

Ever tried to 'correct' a tattoo mistake yourself? Jack Valentino Tuesday #40

People get tattoos covered all the time. Many, many tattooists are willing to cover/repurpose hate tattoos at a reduced WhiskeyGrinder Tuesday #47

I don't accept your position that it is necessarily a "hate" tattoo, just for starters! Jack Valentino Tuesday #50

You don't have to. It's the actual SS Totenkopf tattoo. WhiskeyGrinder Tuesday #56

Perhaps my brain can see deeper than some other people.... Jack Valentino Tuesday #58

lmao WhiskeyGrinder Tuesday #59

or can see some motives that some people will never admit to.... Jack Valentino Tuesday #64

So true! Emile Friday #269

I'm chuckling too 🤣😂 QueerDuck Wednesday #109

.... MarineCombatEngineer Wednesday #113

The candidate evidently knew that it was a NAZI tattoo for a long time and called this NAZI tattoo by it correct name LetMyPeopleVote Wednesday #219

I'm pretty sure Sen. Sanders has kacekwl Wednesday #138

I think the same thing. Autumn Wednesday #149

I'm with Sanders, the whole thing stnks of Miller DoBW Wednesday #227

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Tuesday #8

I do. QueerDuck Tuesday #20

We denounce EVERY Republican candidate, just for being a Republican!!! Jack Valentino Tuesday #46

I'm glad to see so many are fine with this EllieBC Tuesday #9

Yep, it's more than obvious. tritsofme Tuesday #15

Bernie Sanders IS a JEW.... I am not, so I'll go with HIS judgement on the matter! Jack Valentino Tuesday #48

So am I. EllieBC Tuesday #54

Really.. Mahalo, Ellie... It looks like Cha Wednesday #93

Maybe he has other reasons kacekwl Wednesday #180

Being a Jew doesn't give someone a free pass. Guess who else is a Jew? DFW Thursday #248

Nope. I make my own judgements about Nazis. Iggo Wednesday #221

The National Socialists were definitely NOT nice people. DFW Thursday #252

I used to go to a bar BeerBarrelPolka Thursday #259

Platner says he's removing it Easterncedar Tuesday #77

...and it only took 18 years to make that decision. LudwigPastorius Tuesday #81

Not a moral or ethical decision. QueerDuck Wednesday #223

After it came to light. EllieBC Tuesday #90

Embarrassing, or should be WhiskeyGrinder Tuesday #13

Wow. That's very disappointing. QueerDuck Tuesday #16

And now the republicans can forever say that democrats support nazis IcyPeas Tuesday #19

That's my problem with it, yeah maybe u got it while dead drunk but why wouldn't you cover it with another tattoo? EX500rider Tuesday #26

I was young once. RandySF Tuesday #28

So this is how Collins gets re-elected... 0rganism Tuesday #29

Nope, this is bad news for Collins. With Nazi tattoo guy no longer a factor in the primary, Mills can turn toward the GE tritsofme Tuesday #32

too early to say, a lot can happen between now and election day 2026 eShirl Wednesday #121

Very true DFW Thursday #251

Getting a nazi tattoo is an affirmation of one's oasis Tuesday #35

It's NOT a FUCKING SWASTIKA, for Christ Sake!!!! That's the only 'Nazi tattoo' I know about! Jack Valentino Tuesday #55

Newsflash! Bernie Sanders is not 100% right oasis Tuesday #60

I don't think Bernie Sanders is 100% right on any issue either, Jack Valentino Tuesday #80

"Not good enough, Bernie etc". oasis Tuesday #88

Probably I was just ranting at the direction of this thread, reminding me of previous threads Jack Valentino Tuesday #89

One word. sheshe2 Tuesday #92

Rec x 1000 luv2fly Tuesday #61

lol... This is about Planter. Cha Wednesday #94

LOL &... QueerDuck Wednesday #112

Doesn't have to be swastika to be a Nazi symbol uponit7771 Wednesday #141

Pirate Skull and Crossbones: LudwigPastorius Tuesday #78

Thank you! The "pirate radio" excuse sounds even sillier... QueerDuck Wednesday #114

Thank you for posting this LetMyPeopleVote Wednesday #157

WOW... and they're excusing That?!! Cha Wednesday #167

Saved me the trouble, thanks! DFW Thursday #254

Swastikas are not the only fucking Nazi symbol fujiyamasan Tuesday #82

"Pirate Radio" 😳...😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 QueerDuck Wednesday #127

Doesn't have to be, just used by NAZIS is bad enough uponit7771 Wednesday #140

which skull and crossbones would you get? WhiskeyGrinder Wednesday #160

Has he called for intifada too? JoseBalow Tuesday #36

Agreed but I am not surprised. I peeped Sanders game 10 years ago. nt Blasphemer Tuesday #37

The equivocating and lack of urgency LuvLoogie Tuesday #43

If Bernie endorsed him canetoad Tuesday #45

🚧 ⁉️ Platner says he'll remove tattoo that resembles Nazi symbol CoopersDad Tuesday #52

Platner regrets it now ..... relayerbob Tuesday #68

"The View" appearance was: betsuni Wednesday #99

Hm. sheshe2 Wednesday #123

October 20th. betsuni Wednesday #163

Thank you! sheshe2 Wednesday #164

What a surprise.. "dumped on Dems again.." Cha Wednesday #166

Nonsense. It wasn't seen as a nazi tattoo when he got it Easterncedar Tuesday #73

I bet his Blackwater buddies were impressed though relayerbob Tuesday #83

It has always been 100% seen as a Nazi tattoo obamanut2012 Wednesday #128

I may be naive Mossfern Wednesday #146

I know that show, lol Alice B. Wednesday #183

The point is moot. Baitball Blogger Tuesday #74

Maybe this guy really was ignorant fujiyamasan Tuesday #79

That said, I doubt his Democratic party creds are relayerbob Tuesday #84

It was the attack on Bernie that got me riled Easterncedar Wednesday #130

If it weren't for all the baggage (this and the Reddit comments) fujiyamasan Thursday #242

Yep Easterncedar Thursday #256

Oh, man. herding cats Tuesday #91

Aloha Cat... Yeah, it's not our State... Cha Wednesday #95

A lot of this reminds me of the arguments about Fetterman over Connor Lamb, because Connor Lamb lostincalifornia Wednesday #96

Zero tolerance on things like this for me. BannonsLiver Wednesday #98

That sums up my stance as well. Celerity Wednesday #100

There is right and there is wrong Dorian Gray Wednesday #102

We don't have to be in Maine to have Cha Wednesday #235

So, Senator Sanders wants to ignore the color on Platner's skin & judge him by his character? Tim S Wednesday #103

If PoC sported I want to murder white people symbols doubt if Sanders would endorse them uponit7771 Wednesday #142

I don't want another Fetterman -- do you? W_HAMILTON Wednesday #174

So a Grand Wizard KKK tattoo would be no big deal then? Cause this is worse then that IMO EX500rider Wednesday #236

Really? Tim S Thursday #261

Not for simply having a tattoo EX500rider Thursday #262

I trust Bernie's judgment Martin Eden Wednesday #104

Nobody is perfect. This proves it. QueerDuck Wednesday #115

Gabbard. Joy Gray. Turner. Fetterman. This guy. W_HAMILTON Wednesday #175

This isnt his worst endorsement by a longshot SSJVegeta Wednesday #105

While I trust Bernie, all the same, if I were Platner, I would do one of two things: no_hypocrisy Wednesday #106

Interesting discussion and points made by all... Mike Nelson Wednesday #107

"Don't have a Nazi death-head symbol on your body" seems like a low bar for a Democrat n/t Shrek Wednesday #117

This guy seems to be swirling the bowl at this point Mysterian Wednesday #111

Nazi tattoo: fine. Dem campaign funds: Corrupt! Billionaire oligarchs! No taking on, no fighting for working class! Bad! betsuni Wednesday #116

Sanders is very used to making excuses.... ShadesOfBlue Wednesday #119

Yes he is. comradebillyboy Wednesday #161

I'd be open to hear Sanders explain more about why he thinks this guy has changed Mysterian Wednesday #122

Is this thread intended to dissuade people Emile Wednesday #124

Post removed Post removed Wednesday #129

Perfectly acceptable during primaries, right? QueerDuck Wednesday #132

One would think so Hekate Wednesday #137

Well, yes... that's what I thought. Yet it seems like some have already "anointed" him as the party's nominee... QueerDuck Wednesday #171

Is it perfectly acceptable Emile Wednesday #170

Ridiculous. Nobody is being "viciously denigrated." QueerDuck Wednesday #172

Constructive criticism is okay. This could be construed as bashing. and comparing one Emile Wednesday #179

LOL! Yes... that's what PRIMARIES are all about. QueerDuck Wednesday #190

Bashing and tearing down our candidates is not constructive. Emile Wednesday #191

He's in a primary. He's not the anointed nominee. He must EARN that privilege and honor. QueerDuck Wednesday #193

Do you think calling a democratic politician a NAZI Emile Wednesday #195

Nobody has done that... not that I can find in this thread. Every time the word "Nazi" is used... QueerDuck Wednesday #203

So you don't think he's a NAZI? Emile Wednesday #204

JFC, Emile! Give me a fucking break! You know perfectly well that I never said such a thing. QueerDuck Wednesday #207

What's your opinion of Zohran Mamdani? Emile Wednesday #209

LOL! That's not the topic of this thread, Emile. QueerDuck Wednesday #212

Can you send me a link? I have no memory ever Emile Wednesday #214

Sorry. Not my problem. QueerDuck Wednesday #215

I didn't think you could back that up. Adios Emile Wednesday #216

Again. Not my problem. Deal with it. QueerDuck Wednesday #217

Adios Emile Wednesday #218

Okay! Just want to Thank You Cha Wednesday #237

Yes. He has to earn the votes. Feet held to the fire. People will vote their conscience. No cheerleaders. betsuni Thursday #250

So, questioning him having a Nazi tattoo is fair game, but if he was to win the primary, we must defend him having it? MichMan Wednesday #228

He won't win. QueerDuck Wednesday #231

There are other candidates in the Democratic primary, including one that is, in my opinion, MUCH preferable to this guy. W_HAMILTON Wednesday #176

That's great you have a preference. But Emile Wednesday #185

He doesn't have a general election opponent -- he has a Democratic primary opponent. Several, actually. W_HAMILTON Wednesday #188

Politics is not for the thin-skinned, is it? QueerDuck Wednesday #194

Just because one is ignorant of WW2 history Stacey Grove Wednesday #126

Apparently Platner is well versed in WWII history MichMan Wednesday #229

I'd even bet DFW Thursday #255

To be fair, Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei is kinda of a mouthful. EX500rider Thursday #265

The Europeans do love their abbreviations. DFW Thursday #266

After all the crap from the right does. Blue Full Moon Wednesday #134

A week or so ago Senator Sanders said that Governor Mills should exit the race Quiet Em Wednesday #136

When did Bernie get to decide who could or couldn't comradebillyboy Wednesday #162

I think 14 democrats voting kacekwl Wednesday #139

I wish I could afford to ignore racist symbols like that uponit7771 Wednesday #143

The head of the DoD has what some consider a nazi tatoo kacekwl Wednesday #147

Republicans being ok with Nazis isn't new and it's not a problem for Democrats. Maru Kitteh Wednesday #151

He's not even the nominee 🙄 QueerDuck Wednesday #153

The symbols on his body aren't his words and beliefs?!?; Some privileged right there man uponit7771 Thursday #246

Why would they do that? Emile Wednesday #144

Was one of them Fetterman, another Sanders-backed """progressive""" at one point? W_HAMILTON Wednesday #177

We were All fooled by Fetterman. kacekwl Wednesday #182

Maybe so, but I wasn't fooled by a lot of other questionable characters Sanders has surrounded himself with... W_HAMILTON Wednesday #186

I won't bash Senator Sanders. I wish we had more Emile Wednesday #189

***THIS!!!** 👆🏿👆🏿👆🏿 uponit7771 Thursday #247

Not everyone. sheshe2 Wednesday #232

My stepfather had a Nazi tattoo. OilemFirchen Wednesday #145

If it's a skull with what looks like the bones are coming Klarkashton Wednesday #152

Kinda not great to see a lot of people handwaving away a nazi tattoo on a Democrat! WhiskeyGrinder Wednesday #154

One poster says they will get their own Nazi tattoo now because Bernie Maru Kitteh Wednesday #159

The insignia - death skull - was worn exclusively by SS guards at death camps LetMyPeopleVote Wednesday #155

Abhorrent and shocking! Seriously disappointed with Sanders. I feel like maybe reaching cognitive disorders? msfiddlestix Wednesday #165

Sanders always returns to the Independent Column JustAnotherGen Wednesday #168

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Wednesday #173

I'm going to give Plantner a pass on this until I hear more from him and another pass to Sanders for the...... FadedMullet Wednesday #178

Nope. No pass for Nazis. (Even if they're just a wannabe Nazi.) Iggo Wednesday #198

If you are comfortable with the information that you have, to be able to call him a Nazi, then you must have...... FadedMullet Wednesday #241

And yet Pelosi, Hoyer, Jeffries, and Clyburn endorsed Henry Cuellar, Rob H. Wednesday #192

Cuellar wasn't a Nazi, either real or wannabe. Iggo Wednesday #197

Who is a Nazi? Emile Wednesday #201

As I edited my post above, Platner says he's since gotten it covered Rob H. Wednesday #202

Cuellar was subsequently indicted for bribery, conspiracy to commit bribery, Rob H. Wednesday #205

Breaking: Tattoo covered. Reconsider animosity posts please. GreenWave Wednesday #199

Thanks for that and thanks for the link Rob H. Wednesday #206

Yes... covered, but only just now... when it's politically expedient. QueerDuck Wednesday #208

Thank you. By the color of the ink, it's been covered Emile Wednesday #213

If he is not smart enough to know that he has a nazi concentration camp symbol Bluestocking Wednesday #210

Bingo! This! QueerDuck Wednesday #226

There is nothing in this guys bio that suggests he is a racist. everyonematters Wednesday #211

When he was a bartender, he said "Black people don't tip" MichMan Wednesday #230

Except for his Nazi tattoo. Iggo Wednesday #234

MaddowBlog-Maine's Graham Platner faces difficult questions about his record -- and a tattoo LetMyPeopleVote Wednesday #220

Why is Twitter being considered a source? ificandream Wednesday #233

Seems like a lot of pearl clutching over some superficial nonsense from his military past. thought crime Wednesday #238

You don't see a problem with his homophobic statements? MichMan Wednesday #240

It is obviously a political problem. But I accept his explanation and apologies. thought crime Thursday #243

IMO, It's shit stirring from the elite resistance wanting a centrist. Emile Thursday #260

According to Sanders, it is the "corrupt campaign finance system" that deserves the blame MichMan Wednesday #239

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Thursday #244

I agree with this. It's a bad look. He needs to walk away from a horribly vetted Platner. Celerity Thursday #253

First rule: All dysfunction in government caused by money in politics, both sides controlled by billionaire oligarchs. betsuni Thursday #257

sadly the nazi's had good icons. this one is on the bottom + does not scream nazi. pansypoo53219 Thursday #249

Yes it does if you read all the information Cha Thursday #267

Then Sanders is wrong, and he needs to hear it from us. mucholderthandirt Thursday #258

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Thursday #264

The image in the tattoo is the same as the one on Nazi headgear for some branches LetMyPeopleVote Friday #268