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JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
94. Obama won in 2008 in spite of the media. They pushed overtime trying to associate Obama as having
Sun May 18, 2025, 02:43 AM
May 18

a close relationship with weather underground radical Ayers, and in case you forgot, they went into a frenzy trying to paint Obama as a radical leftist because of the Rev Wright.

What helped president Obama the most in 2008 was the economic implosion that occurred under bush, and mccain choosing palin as his VP. In fact 25% of the population believed that President Obama wasn't a citizen, and was a Muslim with the help of much of the media, especially fox news which has the highest viewership of all that cable/satellite news outlets.

Presidents are NOT elected by popular vote, but by the electoral college, and it is the swing states that determine it, and because of that, and nixon's southern strategy our elections in modern times have been very close by electoral college standards. 2008 was an exception, but that was because of the economic implosion that occurred under bush.

As for Biden's 2020 term, it was a very close election, and that was in spite of trump's mishandling of the pandemic, and the economic mess he left the country in.

The disrespect Biden was afforded his term as President by the press was disgusting, and that was through his entire term. Jake tapper's foaming at the mouth rant against Biden when he was removing America from Afghanistan after the terrorist attack against are troops was probably the most blatant personal disdain against a president that I have seen a so-called reporter exhibit.

As for your assessment that "there’s an entire ecosystem of that democrats are losing out on. There are demographics democrats may be at a loss with for another generation if they don’t act fast."

Sorry, but that train has left the station. 2000, 2016, and 2024 sealed that one. The Supreme Court is gone for at LEAST a generation. Nothing will change that. Trump or one of his thugs will be in control for at least the next four years. Nothing will change that. That is what happens when all the branches of government is controlled by a draconian regime.

Everyone should have known what the stakes were, but in spite of that someone who tried to overthrow the government, the country elected, and the country will deservedly pay the price for their stupidity for a long time.

Labor split the vote, Latino's split the vote, women didn't come out in the numbers anticipated, and the middle east protesters, especially in those critical swing states, even though trump made it clear what he was going to do, refused to vote for Harris. Everyone of those demographics are going to pay a heavy price for their foolishness, and of course the rest of us will be dragged along for the ride.

Even if we were fortunate enough to win both houses of congress in the midterms, which isn't likely for the Senate, there is no way we can get rid of trump. The votes for impeachment just aren't there.

The damage that can be done in the next four years is incalculable.

When you have billionaire owners of media outlets actively involved editorial content, and censorship if they don't like what is presented, we are probably facing the greatest peril to our democracy since WWII.

The fact that trump won in 2024 in spite of january 6th, makes 2028 very uncertain.







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he has had his day creon May 17 #1
Yeah, Beto's entitled to his opinion... even if it's a dumb one!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 17 #51
Beto creon May 17 #57
Beto should have never went there. Duncanpup May 17 #2
Nope he shouldn't have! SheltieLover May 17 #8
Yes, Beto just flushed any political aspirations down the terlet...assumin he even still had any before this. InAbLuEsTaTe May 17 #53
Beto was done long ago in Texas. His mouth blocks him. Melon May 17 #74
Yeah. Him and 160M-170M other Americans. RockRaven May 17 #3
It's strange to me that so many people want to make it that simple EdmondDantes_ May 17 #45
The simpler things are the greater the chance Republicans are behind it. live love laugh May 17 #64
I like Beto..... Lovie777 May 17 #4
I like and have BigMin28 May 17 #5
Beto has the right to say this even though he's wrong MustLoveBeagles May 17 #77
He, and anyone who emulates him, is making a mistake. Oopsie Daisy May 17 #6
Move over JustAnotherGen May 18 #105
If true, I have lost all respect for him SheltieLover May 17 #7
Beto's most important job was beating Ted Cruz. And he failed. Walleye May 17 #9
Really? I'm done with Beto. sinkingfeeling May 17 #10
STFU, Beto. Itchinjim May 17 #11
You beat me to it. Paladin May 17 #13
Seriously!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 17 #52
Ha. Technically I agree with that statement but nauseated by Beto's counterproductive comments lostnfound May 17 #12
Yep you are right - job #1 is to disable the fascists politically dwayneb May 17 #14
Biden kind of had his hands full... vanlassie May 17 #68
Technically the non voters are the cause I reckon GusBob May 17 #16
When was the last time a Democrat won a state-wide race in Texas? biocube May 17 #15
Sounds like you have the inside scoop... live love laugh May 17 #25
Biden ran at least twice before winning. BannonsLiver May 17 #49
WTF MorbidButterflyTat May 17 #81
Yes. BannonsLiver May 18 #114
I agree, besides Biden didn't win Texas either fujiyamasan May 17 #83
If Beto could actually win in Texas newdeal2 May 17 #17
Beto lost by only 2.5 points in 2018 fujiyamasan May 18 #88
He still lost though which is all that really matters Meowmee May 18 #93
It's true Beto didn't win fujiyamasan May 18 #101
See! His "most important job" comment is same as "Why didn't Dems stop Republicans" Democrat blaming. betsuni May 17 #18
. MorbidButterflyTat May 17 #80
I don't think Harris lost because of that interview... Self Esteem May 18 #112
Anti-Biden noise is to cover up Trump's clearly demented behavior. travelingthrulife May 17 #19
Beto is dead to me now. Glad I'm not a Texan so don't have to consider him at ALL. lark May 17 #20
Ditto SheltieLover May 17 #26
Beto is not only a has-been, he is a never-was. n/t valleyrogue May 17 #21
lol never was is funny 😁 Meowmee May 18 #95
I've always liked Beto and cheered him on peggysue2 May 17 #22
Why didn't he say this two years ago? Jose Garcia May 17 #23
Says the failed candidate. WhiteTara May 17 #24
So Aviation Pro May 17 #27
Bien said that was a big Mistake. Cha May 18 #91
Beto was right. LizBeth May 17 #28
Who failed the country was the press and the so-called news industry in this country. They failed them in 2000 JohnSJ May 17 #31
. MorbidButterflyTat May 17 #79
You win with the media you have fujiyamasan May 17 #86
Obama won in 2008 in spite of the media. They pushed overtime trying to associate Obama as having JohnSJ May 18 #94
TY, JOhn... & too fucking late for Beto.. Joe Biden Already Took Cha May 18 #90
You are right Cha. JohnSJ May 18 #96
Indeed. BannonsLiver May 17 #48
I really wish a high profile Democrat had had the stones to challenge Biden in the primary - I had major concerns about Midwestern Democrat May 17 #54
Yes he is right fujiyamasan May 18 #106
Don't you mean Tapper's gossip rag? BTW if Tapper had a bad fall, he might end up in a wheelchair!1!1! emulatorloo May 18 #110
It is way past due to stop patronizing these pseudo news outlets who are nothing more than yellow journalism JohnSJ May 17 #29
Agree Meowmee May 18 #98
Biden might have to take Mountainguy May 17 #30
Biden might have to take one for the team? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 17 #44
That's my point Mountainguy May 17 #56
That's BS MorbidButterflyTat May 17 #72
No Mountainguy May 17 #73
Post removed Post removed May 18 #113
Very well stated fujiyamasan May 18 #87
Hey Beto NO Democrat would've won Ritabert May 17 #32
The fact that the Republican media NEVER reported Trump's admission is telling. live love laugh May 17 #34
They can't let the truth be known Ritabert May 17 #46
That's More Than a Little Delusional DrFunkenstein May 17 #75
It was fixed no matter how delusional it sounds. Ritabert May 18 #109
Bullshit spanone May 17 #33
No one is safe from the big bus. I supported Biden to the very end. He should have passed Autumn May 17 #35
Ditto ... and I agree. KPN May 17 #59
He didn't MorbidButterflyTat May 17 #71
There could have been a primary had Joe decided to serve only one term. Autumn May 18 #108
Senor 0 and 2 should feel free to grab a seat and shut the fuck up . . . . hatrack May 17 #36
Beto isn't the only Dem that 0 and 2 statistic fits. Autumn May 17 #37
And other Dems weren't running against the (arguably) most despised Senator in America hatrack May 17 #38
Four years, eight years. Excuses for some while others get none. Autumn May 17 #40
What? live love laugh May 17 #63
Short message for all the "It's not my fault that we lost" Biden-Bashers. usonian May 17 #39
Beto's insight might be valuable here, few have more experience with failure than him. tritsofme May 17 #41
Ouch!!!! Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 17 #43
Meanwhile the asshole who currently occupies the office is doing even worse Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 17 #42
Reality bites. BannonsLiver May 17 #47
This won't help your "comeback" Beto mcar May 17 #50
Anyone who bashes Biden at this point can fuck right off Mysterian May 17 #55
What could possibly be gained by bashing Biden at this point? dlk May 17 #58
Indeed it does. Because everything B.See May 17 #65
Book sales MorbidButterflyTat May 17 #69
Yeah; Why would any Dem Jump on the Cha May 18 #92
So, going into the midterms Bettie May 17 #60
I was never on the Beto bandwagon. LuvLoogie May 17 #61
OMG! Fuck the turncoat! Clouds Passing May 17 #62
Biden didn't fail. Trump and Fox wouldn't shut the fuck up. Initech May 17 #66
Democrats are being questioned about President Biden MorbidButterflyTat May 17 #67
Bye Bye Beto. nt PufPuf23 May 17 #70
Every Democrat when asked should say.. mvd May 17 #76
Oh Beto MustLoveBeagles May 17 #78
Message auto-removed Name removed May 17 #82
Uh Oh is right on!! Kind of late for you isn't it? GP6971 May 17 #84
My, my, my k_buddy762 May 17 #85
Whatever statewide position Beto might be thinking of running for in Texas DFW May 18 #89
Let them get it all out now so they can take it off the table next year. In It to Win It May 18 #97
Right?!?! Anyone bashing Biden next year im ignoring uponit7771 May 18 #100
i hate this biden bashing. why the fuck is beto even talking about it? don't dems orleans May 18 #99
It's not what you say... Mike Nelson May 18 #102
"I'm relevant," sqeaked Beto! FSogol May 18 #103
Looking for a few more minutes JustAnotherGen May 18 #104
Biden's failure was to not groom Harris more to take his place NickB79 May 18 #107
Beto sure sounds like he's running for the Senate in 2026 Polybius May 18 #111
NOPE! Rebl2 May 18 #116
Ok, so enjoy Ken Paxton instead n/t Polybius May 18 #118
It will be an interesting race fujiyamasan May 18 #117
He should Rebl2 May 18 #115
My respect for Beto just took a nose dive. hamsterjill May 18 #119
Rec TY! I thought of what Cha May 18 #120
my respect for him also took a nose dive. i wrote what i wrote (above) and then come home orleans May 18 #122
This needs to be "UN-REC'd" down to ZERO! Oopsie Daisy May 18 #121
This coming from the moron who screamed "we're taking your guns!" BluenFLA May 18 #123
Now he is sick Beto so shut the hell up! Nt helpisontheway May 18 #124
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