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live love laugh

(15,354 posts)
Sat May 17, 2025, 03:56 AM May 17

Beto: "Biden failed this country in the most important job he had"

Last edited Sat May 17, 2025, 07:50 PM - Edit history (1)

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Beto who can’t even win a race himself has jumped on the blame Biden Bandwagon.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5303986-beto-o-rourke-criticizes-biden-relection-bid/

The growing anti-Biden chorus tells me Republicans are in trouble—especially after losing a series of elections recently.

I hope representatives call Republicans out for being the losers that they are so people see what they’re trying to do.

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Beto: "Biden failed this country in the most important job he had" (Original Post) live love laugh May 17 OP
he has had his day creon May 17 #1
Yeah, Beto's entitled to his opinion... even if it's a dumb one!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 17 #51
Beto creon May 17 #57
Beto should have never went there. Duncanpup May 17 #2
Nope he shouldn't have! SheltieLover May 17 #8
Yes, Beto just flushed any political aspirations down the terlet...assumin he even still had any before this. InAbLuEsTaTe May 17 #53
Beto was done long ago in Texas. His mouth blocks him. Melon May 17 #74
Yeah. Him and 160M-170M other Americans. RockRaven May 17 #3
It's strange to me that so many people want to make it that simple EdmondDantes_ May 17 #45
The simpler things are the greater the chance Republicans are behind it. live love laugh May 17 #64
I like Beto..... Lovie777 May 17 #4
I like and have BigMin28 May 17 #5
Beto has the right to say this even though he's wrong MustLoveBeagles May 17 #77
He, and anyone who emulates him, is making a mistake. Oopsie Daisy May 17 #6
Move over JustAnotherGen May 18 #105
If true, I have lost all respect for him SheltieLover May 17 #7
Beto's most important job was beating Ted Cruz. And he failed. Walleye May 17 #9
Really? I'm done with Beto. sinkingfeeling May 17 #10
STFU, Beto. Itchinjim May 17 #11
You beat me to it. Paladin May 17 #13
Seriously!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 17 #52
Ha. Technically I agree with that statement but nauseated by Beto's counterproductive comments lostnfound May 17 #12
Yep you are right - job #1 is to disable the fascists politically dwayneb May 17 #14
Biden kind of had his hands full... vanlassie May 17 #68
Technically the non voters are the cause I reckon GusBob May 17 #16
When was the last time a Democrat won a state-wide race in Texas? biocube May 17 #15
Sounds like you have the inside scoop... live love laugh May 17 #25
Biden ran at least twice before winning. BannonsLiver May 17 #49
WTF MorbidButterflyTat May 17 #81
Yes. BannonsLiver May 18 #114
I agree, besides Biden didn't win Texas either fujiyamasan May 17 #83
If Beto could actually win in Texas newdeal2 May 17 #17
Beto lost by only 2.5 points in 2018 fujiyamasan May 18 #88
He still lost though which is all that really matters Meowmee May 18 #93
It's true Beto didn't win fujiyamasan May 18 #101
See! His "most important job" comment is same as "Why didn't Dems stop Republicans" Democrat blaming. betsuni May 17 #18
. MorbidButterflyTat May 17 #80
I don't think Harris lost because of that interview... Self Esteem May 18 #112
Anti-Biden noise is to cover up Trump's clearly demented behavior. travelingthrulife May 17 #19
Beto is dead to me now. Glad I'm not a Texan so don't have to consider him at ALL. lark May 17 #20
Ditto SheltieLover May 17 #26
Beto is not only a has-been, he is a never-was. n/t valleyrogue May 17 #21
lol never was is funny 😁 Meowmee May 18 #95
I've always liked Beto and cheered him on peggysue2 May 17 #22
Why didn't he say this two years ago? Jose Garcia May 17 #23
Says the failed candidate. WhiteTara May 17 #24
So Aviation Pro May 17 #27
Bien said that was a big Mistake. Cha May 18 #91
Beto was right. LizBeth May 17 #28
Who failed the country was the press and the so-called news industry in this country. They failed them in 2000 JohnSJ May 17 #31
. MorbidButterflyTat May 17 #79
You win with the media you have fujiyamasan May 17 #86
Obama won in 2008 in spite of the media. They pushed overtime trying to associate Obama as having JohnSJ May 18 #94
TY, JOhn... & too fucking late for Beto.. Joe Biden Already Took Cha May 18 #90
You are right Cha. JohnSJ May 18 #96
Indeed. BannonsLiver May 17 #48
I really wish a high profile Democrat had had the stones to challenge Biden in the primary - I had major concerns about Midwestern Democrat May 17 #54
Yes he is right fujiyamasan May 18 #106
Don't you mean Tapper's gossip rag? BTW if Tapper had a bad fall, he might end up in a wheelchair!1!1! emulatorloo May 18 #110
It is way past due to stop patronizing these pseudo news outlets who are nothing more than yellow journalism JohnSJ May 17 #29
Agree Meowmee May 18 #98
Biden might have to take Mountainguy May 17 #30
Biden might have to take one for the team? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 17 #44
That's my point Mountainguy May 17 #56
That's BS MorbidButterflyTat May 17 #72
No Mountainguy May 17 #73
Post removed Post removed May 18 #113
Very well stated fujiyamasan May 18 #87
Hey Beto NO Democrat would've won Ritabert May 17 #32
The fact that the Republican media NEVER reported Trump's admission is telling. live love laugh May 17 #34
They can't let the truth be known Ritabert May 17 #46
That's More Than a Little Delusional DrFunkenstein May 17 #75
It was fixed no matter how delusional it sounds. Ritabert May 18 #109
Bullshit spanone May 17 #33
No one is safe from the big bus. I supported Biden to the very end. He should have passed Autumn May 17 #35
Ditto ... and I agree. KPN May 17 #59
He didn't MorbidButterflyTat May 17 #71
There could have been a primary had Joe decided to serve only one term. Autumn May 18 #108
Senor 0 and 2 should feel free to grab a seat and shut the fuck up . . . . hatrack May 17 #36
Beto isn't the only Dem that 0 and 2 statistic fits. Autumn May 17 #37
And other Dems weren't running against the (arguably) most despised Senator in America hatrack May 17 #38
Four years, eight years. Excuses for some while others get none. Autumn May 17 #40
What? live love laugh May 17 #63
Short message for all the "It's not my fault that we lost" Biden-Bashers. usonian May 17 #39
Beto's insight might be valuable here, few have more experience with failure than him. tritsofme May 17 #41
Ouch!!!! Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 17 #43
Meanwhile the asshole who currently occupies the office is doing even worse Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 17 #42
Reality bites. BannonsLiver May 17 #47
This won't help your "comeback" Beto mcar May 17 #50
Anyone who bashes Biden at this point can fuck right off Mysterian May 17 #55
What could possibly be gained by bashing Biden at this point? dlk May 17 #58
Indeed it does. Because everything B.See May 17 #65
Book sales MorbidButterflyTat May 17 #69
Yeah; Why would any Dem Jump on the Cha May 18 #92
So, going into the midterms Bettie May 17 #60
I was never on the Beto bandwagon. LuvLoogie May 17 #61
OMG! Fuck the turncoat! Clouds Passing May 17 #62
Biden didn't fail. Trump and Fox wouldn't shut the fuck up. Initech May 17 #66
Democrats are being questioned about President Biden MorbidButterflyTat May 17 #67
Bye Bye Beto. nt PufPuf23 May 17 #70
Every Democrat when asked should say.. mvd May 17 #76
Oh Beto MustLoveBeagles May 17 #78
Message auto-removed Name removed May 17 #82
Uh Oh is right on!! Kind of late for you isn't it? GP6971 May 17 #84
My, my, my k_buddy762 May 17 #85
Whatever statewide position Beto might be thinking of running for in Texas DFW May 18 #89
Let them get it all out now so they can take it off the table next year. In It to Win It May 18 #97
Right?!?! Anyone bashing Biden next year im ignoring uponit7771 May 18 #100
i hate this biden bashing. why the fuck is beto even talking about it? don't dems orleans May 18 #99
It's not what you say... Mike Nelson May 18 #102
"I'm relevant," sqeaked Beto! FSogol May 18 #103
Looking for a few more minutes JustAnotherGen May 18 #104
Biden's failure was to not groom Harris more to take his place NickB79 May 18 #107
Beto sure sounds like he's running for the Senate in 2026 Polybius May 18 #111
NOPE! Rebl2 May 18 #116
Ok, so enjoy Ken Paxton instead n/t Polybius May 18 #118
It will be an interesting race fujiyamasan May 18 #117
He should Rebl2 May 18 #115
My respect for Beto just took a nose dive. hamsterjill May 18 #119
Rec TY! I thought of what Cha May 18 #120
my respect for him also took a nose dive. i wrote what i wrote (above) and then come home orleans May 18 #122
This needs to be "UN-REC'd" down to ZERO! Oopsie Daisy May 18 #121
This coming from the moron who screamed "we're taking your guns!" BluenFLA May 18 #123
Now he is sick Beto so shut the hell up! Nt helpisontheway May 18 #124

creon

(1,574 posts)
1. he has had his day
Sat May 17, 2025, 04:30 AM
May 17

beto had his 15 minutes offame.
he, today, is just a random person with an opinion.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(25,156 posts)
53. Yes, Beto just flushed any political aspirations down the terlet...assumin he even still had any before this.
Sat May 17, 2025, 03:34 PM
May 17

RockRaven

(17,305 posts)
3. Yeah. Him and 160M-170M other Americans.
Sat May 17, 2025, 04:31 AM
May 17

90M didn't vote, and 70-something-M voted for The Orange Degenerate.

There is plenty of blame to go around. Are we gonna name every one of those names, or just engage in this cult of personality/great man theory bullshit?

EdmondDantes_

(488 posts)
45. It's strange to me that so many people want to make it that simple
Sat May 17, 2025, 02:12 PM
May 17

It's not any one person's fault.

live love laugh

(15,354 posts)
64. The simpler things are the greater the chance Republicans are behind it.
Sat May 17, 2025, 06:53 PM
May 17

They specialize in “license plate “-sized ideas and language ….

“Cat ladies” … “fake news” …. “2nd Amendment rights” … “pro life” … “Biden’s fault” fits in nicely.

Lovie777

(18,622 posts)
4. I like Beto.....
Sat May 17, 2025, 04:50 AM
May 17

I like President Biden as well.

Democracy likes and not likes, 1st Amendment.

Corporate media is run by RWers and their goal is to distract from the true evils of democracy.

I think most people are waking up to the travesties of shithole musk republicans. The budget bill will do so much damage to the US.



BigMin28

(1,681 posts)
5. I like and have
Sat May 17, 2025, 06:05 AM
May 17

Voted for Beto. But you don't stab other Democrats in the back. We have repubs to do that. Being from Texas, Beto should know better.

MustLoveBeagles

(13,293 posts)
77. Beto has the right to say this even though he's wrong
Sat May 17, 2025, 10:52 PM
May 17

Having said that count me as a disappointed supporter 😔

Oopsie Daisy

(5,824 posts)
6. He, and anyone who emulates him, is making a mistake.
Sat May 17, 2025, 06:26 AM
May 17
>> Beto who can’t even win a race himself has jumped on the blame Biden Bandwagon.
That is a very important distinction. I'm glad you pointed it out. Sometimes the general public can be persuaded into believing that loud, boisterous, bandwagon jumping, grandstanding, showboating and the "blame-game" is an indicator of someone's previous success, or their experience and suitability for a job, or their viability as a future nominee. I'm not one of those persons though.

lostnfound

(16,997 posts)
12. Ha. Technically I agree with that statement but nauseated by Beto's counterproductive comments
Sat May 17, 2025, 07:33 AM
May 17

seems to be seeking attention while feeding a damaging distraction.

I love Biden but “Biden failed this country in the most important job he had” — he didn’t disempower trump in 2021. One way or another, job #1 was to disable the fascist politically.

dwayneb

(985 posts)
14. Yep you are right - job #1 is to disable the fascists politically
Sat May 17, 2025, 08:14 AM
May 17

Not only didn't Biden do that job, Democrats in general have failed to do that job, post-Obama.

We are at war. When one strategy fails, we have to be smart enough and insightful enough to come up with another strategy that works. First we have to admit that we have all failed in the primary task. If we can't do that, we will never improve.

vanlassie

(5,950 posts)
68. Biden kind of had his hands full...
Sat May 17, 2025, 09:10 PM
May 17

Every single minute. And he was doing the right things. Every day.
Let’s blame a DEM who had more free time, shall we? If we insist on blaming. Which I don’t.

GusBob

(7,905 posts)
16. Technically the non voters are the cause I reckon
Sat May 17, 2025, 08:50 AM
May 17

Don’t know if Biden failed to inspire them or not

If you go back further to the Russian interference of 2016, another POTUS might have failed to stop DT

And there is failure in not learning the lessons from that

But voters share the blame there too

biocube

(81 posts)
15. When was the last time a Democrat won a state-wide race in Texas?
Sat May 17, 2025, 08:43 AM
May 17

I believe you'd have to go back to the early 90s. I'm not a big fan of "you've never won an election, be quiet". Some Democrats face bigger challenges than others do. He certainly came a lot closer than Wendy Davis did.

Also, if you don't like what he says about Biden...get used to it. The 2028 race it's going to be an issue.

BannonsLiver

(19,162 posts)
49. Biden ran at least twice before winning.
Sat May 17, 2025, 03:03 PM
May 17

And his first 2 campaigns were catastrophes. The plagiarism deal in 1988 and the ill advised Obama comment in 2008. Third time was the charm, I guess.

fujiyamasan

(194 posts)
83. I agree, besides Biden didn't win Texas either
Sat May 17, 2025, 11:46 PM
May 17

A democrat has not won statewide in Texas since 1994!

Biden did perform relatively well there in 2020, losing by 5.5 points to Trump, but not nearly as well as Beto in 2018, who lost by 2.56. Granted Cruz was always less popular in Texas than Trump, but I think it sort of reinforces what you’re saying.

Beto also did much better than Biden in the border communities, and Harris did even worse. Democrats are hemorrhaging voters in those areas so maybe it’s worth listening to the only democrat that has almost won a statewide seat in Texas in 30 years. Not sure why people are becoming so emotional about this. Every democrat in both 2026 and 2028 will be running away from both Biden and Harris. That is unfortunately how politics works.

According to wiki, “On Election Day, Cruz defeated O'Rourke[7] by a margin just short of 215,000 votes, or 2.6 percent; the race was the closest U.S. Senate race in Texas since 1978.[8]”




newdeal2

(2,625 posts)
17. If Beto could actually win in Texas
Sat May 17, 2025, 09:37 AM
May 17

We would be in much better shape. So Beto failed his most important job.

See how easy the blame game is?

Meowmee

(9,212 posts)
93. He still lost though which is all that really matters
Sun May 18, 2025, 02:40 AM
May 18

Whereas B won the presidency even with losing Texas by a higher percentage. 😁

fujiyamasan

(194 posts)
101. It's true Beto didn't win
Sun May 18, 2025, 05:19 AM
May 18

If you look at the district and county maps in the state though, it’s getting worse. Harris performance in border communities was especially bad. Biden’s performance in those areas was also worse than Beto’s and Hillary’s.

Is this Biden’s fault necessarily? I’m not getting into that, but there was a steady decrease for democrats in those districts after Hillary in 2016. Beto’s looks like a high point. Those are key areas democrats will need to rebuild support if they plan on bring competitive in the state again. I think we need to admit that Biden’s border policies did not have support in those areas, and move from there.

Beto may or may not be the future of democratic politics. He may have peaked in 2018. But Biden is the past too, and the party is going to have to move forward.

betsuni

(27,942 posts)
18. See! His "most important job" comment is same as "Why didn't Dems stop Republicans" Democrat blaming.
Sat May 17, 2025, 10:19 AM
May 17

Pay no attention to voter suppression, vast right-wing media empire, media false equivalency and negativity when it comes to Democrats, unlimited funding from ideological nutty Mercers, Kochs, etc, automatic Christian evangelical vote, culture wars so important in getting those angry brainwashed white people to the polls in swing states, attacks from the Left that the Democratic Party is corrupt and controlled by billionaires with bribes and needs to be taken over (it has its own world of cynical lies demonizing Democrats, designed to suppress the vote), polarization so severe that the extremist Republican Party mostly functions as a war on Democrats and conning voters.

But no, everything's Democrats' fault. But she said on "The View" that she couldn't think of anything she'd do differently from Biden (the one being called FDR a while back). People are saying with straight faces that's why Harris lost.

Self Esteem

(2,184 posts)
112. I don't think Harris lost because of that interview...
Sun May 18, 2025, 01:58 PM
May 18

But Biden had the lowest approval of any president running for reelection since H.W. Bush in 1992. It's clear Americans were not satisfied with the job he was doing and, fairly or not, blamed him for a lot of their frustrations. We have to accept that not only did Biden decide to run with extremely low approval, by the time he dropped out, and Harris took over, the campaign decided to not separate her from Biden.

Was it a winning strategy? Obviously not.

Did it cost her the election? Who knows? This was still a relatively close election so it's hard to say how things would have gone differently if:

1. Biden decided back in 2023 to not run.

2. Harris didn't throw Biden under the bus but was a bit more open to detaching from the administration.

travelingthrulife

(2,390 posts)
19. Anti-Biden noise is to cover up Trump's clearly demented behavior.
Sat May 17, 2025, 10:24 AM
May 17

Why do Democrats fall for this nonsense. They can see that Biden's record is stellar. Shooting themselves in the foot is not just for Republicans.

Meowmee

(9,212 posts)
95. lol never was is funny 😁
Sun May 18, 2025, 02:43 AM
May 18

I liked him at first and donated to him, but then I changed my mind and got a refund 😹
Is he in politics now? I guess he is considering running for something if he is making these statements, or just attention seeking?

peggysue2

(11,874 posts)
22. I've always liked Beto and cheered him on
Sat May 17, 2025, 10:48 AM
May 17

But in this case? He should sit down and bite his lip.

I will not support any Democratic candidate who jumps on the Biden-bashing train.

Stop it and stop adding to the right-wing's propaganda program.

JohnSJ

(98,773 posts)
31. Who failed the country was the press and the so-called news industry in this country. They failed them in 2000
Sat May 17, 2025, 12:15 PM
May 17

by painting Gore as boring, misrepresenting him with taunting jokes incorporated as news. For Kerry they took a paid political ad full of lies, and highlighted it as a news story, and essentially gave if a free paid ad constant airtime, for the swift boaters. For Hillary their constant sexist slurs and misrepresentations were some of the most disgusting examples of reporting in the modern age, and their blatant lie that the email investigation was reopened 11 days before the election directly put trump into the WH. No investigation was ever reopened, and they knew that, but still paraded every right wing pundit across their outlets propagating that lie 24/7, 11 days before the election.

And lest we forget, The illustrious media in this country are directly responsible for the deaths of at least a million people by the WMD LIE, they precipitated with our invasion of Iraq.

When was the last time you heard the media talk about where candidates are on the issues. They sure didn’t with Kerry, Hillary, and Biden, they were too busy focused on gotcha journalism.

Even this theme that “Biden was incompetent”, and make no mistake that is exactly what they are doing with this bullshit, effectively covers up the irreparable damage that trump and his thugs are doing to this country.

Just look at the incompetent people under the current administration that are in positions they have no business to be in?

No, this Biden is old and should have dropped out story with the media self congratulating themselves for presenting it as some sort of accomplishment that they should be praised for is garbage.

You will never hear them bring up how they dropped the ball with the WMD lie in Iraq, and how they have completely dropped the ball by their failure to cover trump and his administration. In fact they have normalized it.

The Matt Lauer interviews with Hillary and trump demonstrated just how bad they were. Lauer let trump ramble on and on with every softball question uninterrupted without follow-up, while with Hillary he wouldn’t even give her a chance to answer a question without interrupting her during her answer. It was a disgrace, and the media self congratulating themselves on such a “wonderful performance” was sickening. Not surprisingly, Lauer was eventually fired for sexual harassment, and Andrew Lack followed for his cover up of the abuses that occurred when he was head at NBC.

The press that covered Joe McCarthy, the Viet Nam war, Watergate, have been missing in action for a long time, and as demonstrated by their current obsessions, they still are.



fujiyamasan

(194 posts)
86. You win with the media you have
Sat May 17, 2025, 11:58 PM
May 17

Obama won in 2008 and 2012. Same media that blew it with WMDs. Biden won in 2020 and with the most votes in US history. Same media that blew butteremails out of proportion.

Using the “media” as an excuse won’t take the party far. Traditional print and broadcast media are increasingly becoming less relevant.

Harris raised plenty of money too. But there’s an entire ecosystem of that democrats are losing out on. There are demographics democrats may be at a loss with for another generation if they don’t act fast.

JohnSJ

(98,773 posts)
94. Obama won in 2008 in spite of the media. They pushed overtime trying to associate Obama as having
Sun May 18, 2025, 02:43 AM
May 18

a close relationship with weather underground radical Ayers, and in case you forgot, they went into a frenzy trying to paint Obama as a radical leftist because of the Rev Wright.

What helped president Obama the most in 2008 was the economic implosion that occurred under bush, and mccain choosing palin as his VP. In fact 25% of the population believed that President Obama wasn't a citizen, and was a Muslim with the help of much of the media, especially fox news which has the highest viewership of all that cable/satellite news outlets.

Presidents are NOT elected by popular vote, but by the electoral college, and it is the swing states that determine it, and because of that, and nixon's southern strategy our elections in modern times have been very close by electoral college standards. 2008 was an exception, but that was because of the economic implosion that occurred under bush.

As for Biden's 2020 term, it was a very close election, and that was in spite of trump's mishandling of the pandemic, and the economic mess he left the country in.

The disrespect Biden was afforded his term as President by the press was disgusting, and that was through his entire term. Jake tapper's foaming at the mouth rant against Biden when he was removing America from Afghanistan after the terrorist attack against are troops was probably the most blatant personal disdain against a president that I have seen a so-called reporter exhibit.

As for your assessment that "there’s an entire ecosystem of that democrats are losing out on. There are demographics democrats may be at a loss with for another generation if they don’t act fast."

Sorry, but that train has left the station. 2000, 2016, and 2024 sealed that one. The Supreme Court is gone for at LEAST a generation. Nothing will change that. Trump or one of his thugs will be in control for at least the next four years. Nothing will change that. That is what happens when all the branches of government is controlled by a draconian regime.

Everyone should have known what the stakes were, but in spite of that someone who tried to overthrow the government, the country elected, and the country will deservedly pay the price for their stupidity for a long time.

Labor split the vote, Latino's split the vote, women didn't come out in the numbers anticipated, and the middle east protesters, especially in those critical swing states, even though trump made it clear what he was going to do, refused to vote for Harris. Everyone of those demographics are going to pay a heavy price for their foolishness, and of course the rest of us will be dragged along for the ride.

Even if we were fortunate enough to win both houses of congress in the midterms, which isn't likely for the Senate, there is no way we can get rid of trump. The votes for impeachment just aren't there.

The damage that can be done in the next four years is incalculable.

When you have billionaire owners of media outlets actively involved editorial content, and censorship if they don't like what is presented, we are probably facing the greatest peril to our democracy since WWII.

The fact that trump won in 2024 in spite of january 6th, makes 2028 very uncertain.







Cha

(311,216 posts)
90. TY, JOhn... & too fucking late for Beto.. Joe Biden Already Took
Sun May 18, 2025, 01:26 AM
May 18

Responsibility.. so Beto is just Piling on with the M$$$M.

And anyone who wants to join them.

Excellent post on the Fascist Enabling Media.

54. I really wish a high profile Democrat had had the stones to challenge Biden in the primary - I had major concerns about
Sat May 17, 2025, 03:40 PM
May 17

the inexplicably somnambulistic nature of the Biden '24 campaign and a legit primary challenge might have exposed the issues in 2023 rather than having them spectacularly blow up in the party's face at the end of June 2024.

fujiyamasan

(194 posts)
106. Yes he is right
Sun May 18, 2025, 08:48 AM
May 18

And over the next few days more democrats will likely say the same thing with the release of Tapper’s book.

emulatorloo

(45,791 posts)
110. Don't you mean Tapper's gossip rag? BTW if Tapper had a bad fall, he might end up in a wheelchair!1!1!
Sun May 18, 2025, 11:58 AM
May 18

JohnSJ

(98,773 posts)
29. It is way past due to stop patronizing these pseudo news outlets who are nothing more than yellow journalism
Sat May 17, 2025, 11:29 AM
May 17

rags and outlet.

They exist as long as people give them the attention they crave.

All they are is exploiters of garbage, and far too many Democrats play their game.

It is way past due to tell them to fuck off.

Why even entertain the question? Biden is not president, a sociopath who tried to overthrow the government is, and yet they portray as what is happening is business as usual. It isn’t, and the press haven’t down their job for quite sometime now. Stop feeding the rats. This garbage will end the sooner people focus on now, instead of what ifs.



Meowmee

(9,212 posts)
98. Agree
Sun May 18, 2025, 02:54 AM
May 18

I blame the press/media and the idiot not voters and switch to psycho voters the most perhaps... mistakes were made... but trashing B at this point is beyond crazy imo... It would have been psycho 2 if he had not won and imagine where we would be now if that had happened.

Ultimately I blame the crazy system that allowed a psychopath to run for office not once but 3 times, and which also has no way to remove a psychopath from office quickly and easily.

Mountainguy

(1,948 posts)
30. Biden might have to take
Sat May 17, 2025, 11:56 AM
May 17

One for the team.

He isn't running for anything again and if Democrats find it useful to do this stuff then that's part of it. It's a play in areas where Biden underperformed. Don't like it, but winning is the name of the game.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(123,653 posts)
44. Biden might have to take one for the team?
Sat May 17, 2025, 02:10 PM
May 17

Elaborate please. It's doubtful he's going to run again.

Mountainguy

(1,948 posts)
56. That's my point
Sat May 17, 2025, 03:55 PM
May 17

If democrats who are running find it useful to create space and put some blame on him, he's going to have to absorb that.

Biden was, and remains, unpopular. That hurt Kamala too. The "I don't disagree with anything" ad was run over and over and over in the swing states, and it was effective.

Biden isn't running for anything again, ever. His popularity isn't important anymore and nobody who is running needs to defend him, and he's useful to put blame on if they need to.

It's politics.

Response to MorbidButterflyTat (Reply #72)

fujiyamasan

(194 posts)
87. Very well stated
Sun May 18, 2025, 12:08 AM
May 18

Politics is a nasty and brutal game. Biden’s legacy may grow in time like Grant, LBJ, or Carter but for now it will be tied in most circles to his age, that debate and Trump’s return to power.

Well before Biden announced his reelection campaign, polls among democrats showed very little enthusiasm.

Biden obviously has no political future and he should enjoy his retirement after a long career of public service.

Ritabert

(1,111 posts)
32. Hey Beto NO Democrat would've won
Sat May 17, 2025, 12:57 PM
May 17

The fix was in. Trump admitted it in the Pennsylvania win. Apparently Elmo helped secure the vote.

DrFunkenstein

(8,771 posts)
75. That's More Than a Little Delusional
Sat May 17, 2025, 10:23 PM
May 17

Trump's approval rating was underwater in the months going into the election. He was there for the taking. Whether Kamala was a flawed candidate, or she could have pulled further ahead if Biden exited earlier will always be a matter of speculation.

But there's no point in conspiracy theories. The Electoral College, voter suppression, and failed journalism are more than enough without worrying about "the fix." Add to that the depressingly high level of misogyny in this country and you've got more than enough to chew on.

Ritabert

(1,111 posts)
109. It was fixed no matter how delusional it sounds.
Sun May 18, 2025, 09:19 AM
May 18

Do you think they're incapable of rigging all the swing states? They've been perfecting it since Florida 2000.

Autumn

(47,902 posts)
35. No one is safe from the big bus. I supported Biden to the very end. He should have passed
Sat May 17, 2025, 01:26 PM
May 17

the torch and not gone for the second term.

Autumn

(47,902 posts)
108. There could have been a primary had Joe decided to serve only one term.
Sun May 18, 2025, 09:18 AM
May 18

The choice of a new president when the incumbent isn't running does not automaticly go to the VP. No one has amnesia, it's called a choice.

hatrack

(62,555 posts)
38. And other Dems weren't running against the (arguably) most despised Senator in America
Sat May 17, 2025, 01:37 PM
May 17

But sure, let's set aside the shambling shit-show that's actually happening right now and the cavalcade of horrors that the future likely holds.

Because what better time than during an ongoing constitutional crisis, while standing in the path of a tsunami of lies and illegality and corruption, to turn our laser-like focus to the events of what shoulda woulda coulda happened three or four years ago, right?

Right?

usonian

(17,901 posts)
39. Short message for all the "It's not my fault that we lost" Biden-Bashers.
Sat May 17, 2025, 01:49 PM
May 17



1. You're projecting, and projecting your weaknesses, failures and fears onto the kindest person imaginable, and
2. You're echoing bullshit right-wing messaging that would get you banned from DU.

This is so maga and you don't even know it.
Well, you learned it right here.

Longer version here.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=20320851

Why not go after a senile, deranged and lunatic spray-painted Shitler?
You're all small, mean, self-focused chickenshit fools.
You're the big kid who beat up the little kids in school.



Repost of
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220320906

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(123,653 posts)
42. Meanwhile the asshole who currently occupies the office is doing even worse
Sat May 17, 2025, 02:05 PM
May 17

But let's keep fighting yesterday's battle.

dlk

(12,639 posts)
58. What could possibly be gained by bashing Biden at this point?
Sat May 17, 2025, 05:34 PM
May 17

Especially, when he accomplished so much. It makes absolutely no sense and looks extremely petty, and small.

B.See

(5,493 posts)
65. Indeed it does. Because everything
Sat May 17, 2025, 07:30 PM
May 17

Biden did was for America, democracy, and more importantly, on behalf of the PEOPLE. INCLUDING running again, because of the threat of a fascist state under Trump... as was his decision to withdraw.

President Biden accomplished many great things for which he's gotten little credit. He's an honourable man.

Which, btw, is more than I can say for perhaps a FEW mfkrs.

Cha

(311,216 posts)
92. Yeah; Why would any Dem Jump on the
Sun May 18, 2025, 01:43 AM
May 18

Maga Media Bandwagon to Crush Joe Biden Further into the Ground..

And Don't Talk about All the Good he did for America and her People?



https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220324436

Bettie

(18,319 posts)
60. So, going into the midterms
Sat May 17, 2025, 06:12 PM
May 17

everyone is just going to drive another metaphorical knife into Biden's back rather than talking about any sort of vision or plan?

Sounds great...super way to win...

LuvLoogie

(8,025 posts)
61. I was never on the Beto bandwagon.
Sat May 17, 2025, 06:29 PM
May 17

This is like the political twink death of Beto Roarke.

That's some sorry ass shit.

Initech

(104,975 posts)
66. Biden didn't fail. Trump and Fox wouldn't shut the fuck up.
Sat May 17, 2025, 07:43 PM
May 17

We're in this mess because of them.

MorbidButterflyTat

(3,026 posts)
67. Democrats are being questioned about President Biden
Sat May 17, 2025, 09:05 PM
May 17

in order to hype idiots' book sales.

“'We might very well lose the greatest country that this world has ever known. And it might be in part because of the decision that Biden and those around him made to run for reelection,' the Texas Democrat (Beto) added."

VP Harris was on the Dem ballot.

President Biden will not be responsible if we "...lose the greatest country that this world has ever known..."

Damn, I'm so sick of Democrats being blamed for MAGAt bullshit! Especially by other supposed Democrats!

mvd

(65,647 posts)
76. Every Democrat when asked should say..
Sat May 17, 2025, 10:31 PM
May 17

I’m focused on the disaster in the WH - the piling on has to stop. Of course our media even tries to normalize this Trump term. Don’t help them distract.

Response to live love laugh (Original post)

DFW

(58,090 posts)
89. Whatever statewide position Beto might be thinking of running for in Texas
Sun May 18, 2025, 01:13 AM
May 18

He might be well-advised to wait a few years before making the attempt.

If anyone had the chance to stop him from expressing that sentiment publicly, and didn’t, they didn’t do him any favors.

In It to Win It

(10,619 posts)
97. Let them get it all out now so they can take it off the table next year.
Sun May 18, 2025, 02:48 AM
May 18

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orleans

(36,040 posts)
99. i hate this biden bashing. why the fuck is beto even talking about it? don't dems
Sun May 18, 2025, 03:26 AM
May 18

have enuf to focus on without doing this? isn't trump & musk enuf?

Mike Nelson

(10,588 posts)
102. It's not what you say...
Sun May 18, 2025, 06:23 AM
May 18

... it's how you say something. I could say the same thing as, "In hindsight, I agree President Biden should have decided not to run for re-election much earlier." A politician who says this as "Biden failed this country..." is communicating something different. There are a lot of people doing this, now, while others are "looking forward, not backward." I wonder if their staff and polling people think the "Biden failed" side helps? Instead, I would talk about the deranged Crooked Donald complaining to the Murdering Prince of Saudi Arabia about "rigged" elections in the USA.

NickB79

(19,920 posts)
107. Biden's failure was to not groom Harris more to take his place
Sun May 18, 2025, 08:50 AM
May 18

Sorry, I love what he did as President, and he was an excellent one.

But......

Respectfully, he should have declared himself a one-term President from the start of his term and given Harris room to run, room to make more of a name for herself with big decisions. Her presence was too muted as VP, and that really hurt her appeal last year.

We need another candidate with the energy and vitality of Obama if we want to win again. Harris was close, but never really had her moment to shine before the chaos of the 2024 election cycle.

Polybius

(20,011 posts)
111. Beto sure sounds like he's running for the Senate in 2026
Sun May 18, 2025, 12:11 PM
May 18

Hey, if it works to get him elected in Texas, do what ya gotta do Beto...

fujiyamasan

(194 posts)
117. It will be an interesting race
Sun May 18, 2025, 03:56 PM
May 18

Especially if Beto goes against Alred for the nomination. I don’t think Paxton is nearly as popular as Cornyn who has won handily in the past, so maybe there’s an outside chance it’s competitive.

Rebl2

(16,402 posts)
115. He should
Sun May 18, 2025, 03:10 PM
May 18

give up on elected office. There was no reason for him to mouth off like that. I don’t think he could get elected dog catcher.

hamsterjill

(15,891 posts)
119. My respect for Beto just took a nose dive.
Sun May 18, 2025, 06:02 PM
May 18

I'm a Texan.

This was not a becoming comment for him to have made. And in light of today's announcement about Joe Biden's health, it's not sitting well with me. Beto is sounding a little bit desperate these days. Maybe he should just shut up for a bit.

Cha

(311,216 posts)
120. Rec TY! I thought of what
Sun May 18, 2025, 06:11 PM
May 18

Beto said yesterday when I saw the sad news about Joe Biden.

There was No good reason to Pile on with the M$M Bashing Biden Bandwagon.

orleans

(36,040 posts)
122. my respect for him also took a nose dive. i wrote what i wrote (above) and then come home
Sun May 18, 2025, 06:56 PM
May 18

to hear this news about biden.

and my respect for all who have been biden hitting/bashing went down even more.

and just to be clear: i'm not the biggest biden fan but i have a lot of empathy and respect for him -- and this shit people have been doing lately (the i feel like kicking someone so now i'm kicking biden crowd) just pisses me off. why the hell can't we (as dems) stay focused on trump and his cartel and the trump sucking republicans in congress? grrr

BluenFLA

(208 posts)
123. This coming from the moron who screamed "we're taking your guns!"
Sun May 18, 2025, 07:01 PM
May 18

A 3 time loser with zero future in politics. Bitter Beto?

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