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The Magistrate

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20. Those It Is Aimed At, Sir, Cannot Be Convinced
Thu Apr 9, 2020, 07:30 AM
Apr 2020

You indicate above awareness the charge reported in the heading post, and frequently encountered elsewhere in various forums, is a lie. A lie reared up on a fragment of fact that is distorted out of all recognition. Liars ought to be named for what they are. Merely claiming the title of 'progressive' or 'leftist' does not make anyone immune from criticism, and certainly not from accurate description. This Orfalea fellow is a liar. A good many people echo the same lie, and do so in the name of supporting Sanders. Sanders keeps silent about the lies told in his name. He does nothing to rein them in. He does not say they are lies. What he does is lie back and reap the benefit of these energetic liars, who suggest he has at his disposal a great capacity to disrupt and harm the prospects of the Democratic Party and its nominee if he is not placated in some so far unspecified way. That is the truth of the matter, and every one who is not party to the lies told to advance Sanders' cause knows it.

Opposing these liars and naming them as liars is not making enemies of 'progressives'. It is recognizing there are a number of people who call themselves 'progressives' who have declared themselves to be the enemies of the Democratic Party, and would be content to see its nominee for President fail, and the country be delivered again into the hands of the cheap thug Trump and the gravedigger of the Senate, McConnell. They have their reasons for this desire, they imagine it will clear the way for some revolutionary advance of the 'progressive' cause. That is a false hope, which never will be realized, but the harm done in pursuit of it will be real enough. The only thing at question is how much harm these people will manage to inflict. It may not be sufficient to cause material harm to Mr. Biden's candidacy, but it could be. In either case, it is a harm and a risk it would be best to avoid, and if possible, to remove. Your aid in doing this, rather than in whitewashing it, is solicited.





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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Given His Position, Sir, That Is An Official Sanders Statement The Magistrate Apr 2020 #1
He needs to the them to the vet denem Apr 2020 #5
lol a trillion for bernie's pet F 35 jets made/stationed in ... vermont nt msongs Apr 2020 #2
matt haz a sad.. he lost and he's not gonna Cha Apr 2020 #3
Is this asshole stll part of the Sanders campaign? Wasnt he fired last year? still_one Apr 2020 #4
He was fired but still works for the campaign (probably as a "contractor). Jane loves him. George II Apr 2020 #6
That is unacceptable still_one Apr 2020 #10
Matt should get a bottle of cheap booze DenverJared Apr 2020 #7
If you watch any of his recent videos, it looks like he's doing in from his mother's basement.... George II Apr 2020 #8
His mother has probably been dead and ossified a few years ago DenverJared Apr 2020 #9
Then: "Vote blue, no matter who!" Now: Grokenstein Apr 2020 #11
I don't expect it to let up much. TwilightZone Apr 2020 #12
This crazy shit actually helps Biden GulfCoast66 Apr 2020 #13
He needs new material. Drunken Irishman Apr 2020 #14
This Helps Joe Biden DarthDem Apr 2020 #15
This is part of the problem. Don1 Apr 2020 #16
This Is All Very Well, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #17
That works in an echo chamber. Don1 Apr 2020 #19
Those It Is Aimed At, Sir, Cannot Be Convinced The Magistrate Apr 2020 #20
Yes, it's "they". Like it or not he and Gray and Sirota SPEAK FOR THE CAMPAIGN, "THEY"! George II Apr 2020 #24
There Are Things Some People Just Do Not Like To Admit, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #25
Bernie speaks for the campaign and so do his staff who had him concede. Don1 Apr 2020 #34
This is indicative of his senior staff and prominent surrogates. TwilightZone Apr 2020 #30
bullshit Don1 Apr 2020 #33
We're not talking about who convinced him to concede, we're talking about toxicity STILL coming.... George II Apr 2020 #36
You are making hasty generalizations about groups of people. Don1 Apr 2020 #37
Are You Pretending Your Misdirections Are Helpful, Sir? The Magistrate Apr 2020 #38
Please just stop making hasty generalizations about Bernie supporters. Don1 Apr 2020 #39
I Do Apreciate A Good Laugh, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #40
It's not"some guy Matt", its a guy hired by the Sanders campaign, then fired, then... George II Apr 2020 #23
He was fired after a day. Don1 Apr 2020 #35
Excellent post. Laelth Apr 2020 #28
Most Bernie supporters weren't hired by the Campaign and then fired a day later... SidDithers Apr 2020 #41
This is A senseless rant with no redeeming qualites--just fabricated falsehoods or mischaracterizati UncleNoel Apr 2020 #18
The campaign to make this general election the "lesser of two evils" begins in earnest. betsuni Apr 2020 #21
And Apparently Attacking Those Who Purvey Such Swill, Ma'am The Magistrate Apr 2020 #22
Your revolution is over, Mr. Orfaleo. Loki Liesmith Apr 2020 #26
That is a really special kind of imbecile. Squinch Apr 2020 #27
I fear even looking at Twitter today mcar Apr 2020 #29
Why would anyone expect anything to change with the trolls comradebillyboy Apr 2020 #31
Someone please tell Matt Orfalea that his candidate lost. Sloumeau Apr 2020 #32
Yet another hit job from Sanders supporter Orfalea. Unity now!!!! George II Apr 2020 #42
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