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Populist Reform of the Democratic Party

merrily

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17. I don't actually know what Obama is or is not over or who he trusts.

Reply to Sunlei (Reply #15)

Sat Jul 18, 2015, 07:58 AM

Jul 2015

It's my personal view that he and the Clintons made a deal in 2008 and each of them have lived up to their respective bargains. And, the deal was based on their respective personal ambitions. Speculation, yes, but it was my view then and remains so.

However, even if you are correct, why would on earth would Obama's supposedly accepting something mean that I have to accept it as well? That seems like a rather bizarre notion.

Besides, this thread is not even about any of that.

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Daily Kos: Job titles do not necessarily equate to accomplishments or qualifications [View all] merrily Jul 2015 OP

Excellent points, and questions... truebluegreen Jul 2015 #1

Thank you. merrily Jul 2015 #2

Well, there's Burma... TreasonousBastard Jul 2015 #3

'calming hotspots' is one of those sort of vague Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #4

True-- the best that can be said is that she didn't... TreasonousBastard Jul 2015 #5

"Obviously" being perhaps the key word. That we know of yet. merrily Jul 2015 #10

Can you say a bit more about Burma, please. merrily Jul 2015 #7

That was the first American visit in 50 years... TreasonousBastard Jul 2015 #20

Thank you. OK she visited for the first time. Obama, too. Whose idea? Did it have to do with TPP? merrily Jul 2015 #22

Probably nothing to do with the TPP... TreasonousBastard Jul 2015 #25

Obama's presence was a much bigger deal than Hillary's. I also see nothing to indicate merrily Jul 2015 #26

as SOS, she helped multinational corporations and helped draft the TPP antigop Jul 2015 #6

And there we come to the crux of the matter. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #8

her undersecretary for economic growth: former vice chair Goldman Sachs antigop Jul 2015 #11

+100 nt antigop Jul 2015 #13

+1000 kath Jul 2015 #32

Helping multinationals is undoubtedly a large part of the responsibilities of any SOS. merrily Jul 2015 #9

Erich's post #8 above... antigop Jul 2015 #12

Should we actually accept that? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #14

I wish we had public owned utilities, grocery stores and gas stations. but we don't Sunlei Jul 2015 #16

You probably know my answers, right? merrily Jul 2015 #21

Well, I would hope they're the same as mine, but you did repeat the idea that Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #23

I was describing what I believe to be currently the reality, not what I would like to see or what I merrily Jul 2015 #24

PS. Just noticed: I also called it a form of corporate welfare. merrily Jul 2015 #27

no, we should not. I know you didn't address the question to me. nt antigop Jul 2015 #30

This message was self-deleted by its author Sunlei Jul 2015 #15

I don't actually know what Obama is or is not over or who he trusts. merrily Jul 2015 #17

I don't mean blindly follow Obamas choices, but at this point his opinion carries a lot of weight to Sunlei Jul 2015 #18

No, you shouldn't delete it. Nothing was wrong with it as far as the forum. merrily Jul 2015 #19

The Peter Principle. SheilaT Jul 2015 #28

Never read it. However, the Kos article went well beyond saying that SOS was the only merrily Jul 2015 #29

Your points are valid but the Kos article is a hit piece Warpy Jul 2015 #31

The daily kos article is harshly written, undoubtedly. merrily Jul 2015 #33