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Erich Bloodaxe BSN

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6. As to the first part, I couldn't say what percentage of the mysogyny
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 05:53 PM
Aug 2014

that's out there might stem from such, but I'd have to ask what constitutes a 'negative experience'? Is it simply being denied something the guy wants? And are we to get Freudian, and say that because parenting has been so often left to women, that since Mom generally gets stuck being the one who tells Junior 'No!', she's set up as primal 'negative experience'? And, heck, what if Junior is spoiled rotten and never hears 'No!' from Mom? In which case his sense of entitlement gets to get hammered by the first girl he assumes will just fall in his lap?

Aren't our 'negative experiences' in life often simply a reflection of our own input into the experience? If you go into an experience with a sense that you 'deserve' a specific outcome, then at least some of the time, you're going to walk out with a 'negative experience'. I think if you go in with no expectations, and don't assume you are owed any particular outcome, you'll walk out again with far fewer chances of having had a 'negative experience', even if the outcome wasn't that for which you had hoped.

As to the second part, I think that depends upon the people with whom you hang out, and the extent to which you socialize. I don't spend a lot of time just 'hanging out' with other guys, so there's no reinforcement of the 'men first' attitude, no matter what my experiences are. So most of my socialization skills were formed in school. And that's where I'd start working to change the cultural reinforcement, de-emphasizing competition and self-centered behaviours, and emphasizing cooperation and seeing everyone as being an equal human being, regardless of gender, skin tone, intellect, accent, or any other particular characteristic.

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Until it becomes unacceptable behavior among men, until men aren't rewarded by other men seabeyond Aug 2014 #1
All men or damn near all are exposed to misogyny by one or more people while growing up randys1 Aug 2014 #2
Re: right-wing women YoungDemCA Aug 2014 #3
all of that is true PLUS when you are treated a certain way you figure that is who you are, I guess randys1 Aug 2014 #4
Yup, internalized oppression YoungDemCA Aug 2014 #5
More like "I got it good, don't want to rock the boat." CTyankee Aug 2014 #8
a lot fo right wing men do not hate women. they think of them as children to be cared for. seabeyond Aug 2014 #9
Nah, dont confuse respect as in "pedastal" with real respect randys1 Aug 2014 #11
i disagree. they are not the teabaggers, or those you see on tv. i have only had these men in my seabeyond Aug 2014 #12
OK, you are a Woman, I am not, so I defer, but I also dont confuse some Dem men randys1 Aug 2014 #14
You are probably, assuredly correct. Nt seabeyond Aug 2014 #21
exactly. they are cons. yes. Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #24
As to the first part, I couldn't say what percentage of the mysogyny Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #6
Interesting points YoungDemCA Aug 2014 #7
i think it is genetic. mopinko Aug 2014 #10
Since sexism and misogyny are different things ismnotwasm Aug 2014 #13
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2014 #15
Feminism had nothing to do with misogyny though ismnotwasm Aug 2014 #16
Post removed Post removed Aug 2014 #17
Haha! He can't hear you. He was banned. He spouted MRA stuff on another thread. freshwest Aug 2014 #18
Yeah there was another one I alerted on in a thread I started here and got a hide ismnotwasm Aug 2014 #19
From what I've seen, negative experiences tend to exacerbate *any kind* of prejudice. nt AverageJoe90 Aug 2014 #20
yep, case in point, ELLIOT RODGER. nt alp227 Aug 2014 #22
What's really scary is that his rantings resemble stuff I've seen all over the place, online. nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #23
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