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Major Nikon

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47. We are talking about two different things

Wed Nov 21, 2018, 08:31 PM

Nov 2018

The OT prophesy might be debatable, but regardless it's quite clear the NT authors understood it to mean virgin. Even if someone wants to debate the words taken out of the NT, the context is quite clear in both Matthew and Luke.

You have to remember the NT authors went to great lengths to invent a story that was as close as they could get to the OT prophesies. For the purposes of discussing the NT, the authors' believed the OT specified a virgin so a virgin is what they invented.

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Is virginity sacred or something? [View all] Cartoonist Nov 2018 OP

Whatever anyone "interprets" it should be? LakeArenal Nov 2018 #1

I prefer to think of Jesus and the Apostles differently... Moostache Nov 2018 #4

It's a sick, repressive obsession of some faith systems. 50 Shades Of Blue Nov 2018 #2

Yes. It is sacred if we give it sufficient value. Doodley Nov 2018 #3

Jesus was not born as a virgin vlyons Nov 2018 #5

The Bible does say there was a special disciple Jesus loved Major Nikon Nov 2018 #30

Both things are unsubstantiated myths. MineralMan Nov 2018 #6

"Someone or something impregnated Mary" marylandblue Nov 2018 #7

But that's not the doctrine. MineralMan Nov 2018 #8

I was making a joke, but I guess it didn't work. marylandblue Nov 2018 #10

I'm sorry, but I don't find religions that dominate societies amusing. MineralMan Nov 2018 #11

It's okay, I understand. marylandblue Nov 2018 #12

You have to go all the way back to the 1st Council of Nicea in 325 AD vlyons Nov 2018 #31

Yes. Well, the Canon is the result of political MineralMan Nov 2018 #32

I didn't fall for this myth when saidsimplesimon Nov 2018 #29

Jesus was the firstborn of Mary. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #9

Luke 1:34-35 seems pretty unambiguous. marylandblue Nov 2018 #13

Not to the informed reader. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #14

Yes, that's true, but it was translated "parthenos" in the Septugint marylandblue Nov 2018 #15

Parthenos means young woman and virgin. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #35

If I were you, I'd make a snide remark about your lack of understanding marylandblue Nov 2018 #38

#36. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #40

That is not relevant to the case I am making marylandblue Nov 2018 #41

The book of Matthew was authored in Greek Major Nikon Nov 2018 #33

Parthenos has 2 meanings. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #36

Your link doesn't say that Major Nikon Nov 2018 #37

From the link: guillaumeb Nov 2018 #39

That's Strong' s interpretation. MineralMan Nov 2018 #42

No, that's Gil's interpretation. See #43 Major Nikon Nov 2018 #44

An unimpressive display of duplicitous editing Major Nikon Nov 2018 #43

So you aren't Catholic, then. Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2018 #16

Guy won't say what he believes, exactly. MineralMan Nov 2018 #19

He hints that he is Catholic because he says he had a Jesuit education marylandblue Nov 2018 #20

He was educated at Jesuit schools, but hasn't claimed to be MineralMan Nov 2018 #21

Since we have so little evidence, we can only guess marylandblue Nov 2018 #22

For the sake of argument, MineralMan Nov 2018 #23

He said he is a deist and a theist Major Nikon Nov 2018 #34

Round young virgins tender and mild... MineralMan Nov 2018 #18

the word was mistranslated from Brainstormy Nov 2018 #27

Except it's not a mistranslation Major Nikon Nov 2018 #45

while I concede there's debate, Brainstormy Nov 2018 #46

We are talking about two different things Major Nikon Nov 2018 #47

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Virginity is important to vampires Bretton Garcia Nov 2018 #24

That last one is key Cartoonist Nov 2018 #25

If it's not a personal question ... malchickiwick Nov 2018 #26

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