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In reply to the discussion: I may be taking a break for a bit. [View all]pat_k
(12,133 posts)80. Horrific! I'm so sorry! I'm sure you have doctors attempting to diagnose the pain, but has this included...
... specialists in rheumatology?? I can attest personally to how unbearable the pain of inflammatory disease can be.
As I posted to your thread earlier this month:
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Although gradual onset of Rheumatoid Arthritis is common, there are cases of "explosive" onset in "non-traditional" larger joints that can come on fast and resolve fast. There are also other inflammatory diseases that need to be investigated when a person is struck down with pain.
AI summary of various Rheumatoid presentations and mimics.
While classic rheumatoid arthritis (RA) typically has a gradual onset, sudden or acute onset is possible, especially in older adults. Other conditions, including reactive arthritis and palindromic rheumatism, can also cause sudden joint pain and are often mistaken for RA. I sure hope so, but in case not, I highly recommend you insist on a referral.
Rheumatoid arthritis (RA)
Although RA usually develops slowly over several weeks to months, an explosive polyarticular onset, with pain and swelling in multiple joints over 24 to 48 hours, is possible.
Acute-onset RA: Some cases, especially in older adults, can appear suddenly and intensely, often affecting larger, more proximal joints like the knees and shoulders.
Widespread symptoms: Along with joint pain and swelling, sudden-onset RA can also cause flu-like symptoms such as fatigue, fever, and a general feeling of being unwell.
Palindromic rheumatism (PR)
This rare form of inflammatory arthritis is characterized by sudden, recurrent attacks of painful swelling in one or more joints.
Rapid onset and resolution: Attacks begin and end quickly, lasting anywhere from a few hours to several days.
Between attacks: Joints appear and feel normal, with no lasting damage.
Progression to RA: While PR is distinct from RA, it's considered an autoimmune-related disease, and up to 50% of people with PR may later develop RA.
Reactive arthritis
This is an autoimmune response that can cause sudden-onset inflammatory arthritis after a bacterial infection.
Triggering infections: Common triggers include gastrointestinal infections (like food poisoning), sexually transmitted infections (STIs), and urinary tract infections (UTIs).
Typical joints: Pain and stiffness most often affect the knees, ankles, feet, and heels.
Additional symptoms: Eye inflammation (conjunctivitis) and urinary problems are also common.
Seronegative spondyloarthropathies
This group of conditions can be difficult to differentiate from RA, particularly if they appear suddenly.
Psoriatic arthritis (PsA): This can cause joint pain and stiffness that mimics RA. Distinctive symptoms that might differentiate PsA include sausage-like swelling of fingers or toes (dactylitis), nail changes, and lower back pain.
Ankylosing spondylitis (AS): Though primarily affecting the spine, AS can also cause pain and stiffness in the pelvis.
Other mimics
Several other conditions can present with sudden, widespread joint pain that may be mistaken for RA:
Viral arthritis: Viruses like parvovirus B19 or Chikungunya can cause acute, multi-joint pain. Symptoms usually resolve once the infection clears.
Lyme disease: This tick-borne illness can cause widespread joint pain and other symptoms similar to RA. Unlike RA, the pain can shift from joint to joint, and it is usually responsive to antibiotics.
Whipple's disease: This rare bacterial infection can cause arthritis that mimics RA, especially in seronegative patients. [/excerpt
The above is not comprehensive, but if your physician is not having these possibilities investigated, you may need to demand that they do.
Other things to investigate that don't fall into the inflammatory disease category: spinal stenosis, degenerative disk disease, or a more acute issue like spinal cord compression or transverse myelitis.
Rheumatoid arthritis (RA)
Although RA usually develops slowly over several weeks to months, an explosive polyarticular onset, with pain and swelling in multiple joints over 24 to 48 hours, is possible.
Acute-onset RA: Some cases, especially in older adults, can appear suddenly and intensely, often affecting larger, more proximal joints like the knees and shoulders.
Widespread symptoms: Along with joint pain and swelling, sudden-onset RA can also cause flu-like symptoms such as fatigue, fever, and a general feeling of being unwell.
Palindromic rheumatism (PR)
This rare form of inflammatory arthritis is characterized by sudden, recurrent attacks of painful swelling in one or more joints.
Rapid onset and resolution: Attacks begin and end quickly, lasting anywhere from a few hours to several days.
Between attacks: Joints appear and feel normal, with no lasting damage.
Progression to RA: While PR is distinct from RA, it's considered an autoimmune-related disease, and up to 50% of people with PR may later develop RA.
Reactive arthritis
This is an autoimmune response that can cause sudden-onset inflammatory arthritis after a bacterial infection.
Triggering infections: Common triggers include gastrointestinal infections (like food poisoning), sexually transmitted infections (STIs), and urinary tract infections (UTIs).
Typical joints: Pain and stiffness most often affect the knees, ankles, feet, and heels.
Additional symptoms: Eye inflammation (conjunctivitis) and urinary problems are also common.
Seronegative spondyloarthropathies
This group of conditions can be difficult to differentiate from RA, particularly if they appear suddenly.
Psoriatic arthritis (PsA): This can cause joint pain and stiffness that mimics RA. Distinctive symptoms that might differentiate PsA include sausage-like swelling of fingers or toes (dactylitis), nail changes, and lower back pain.
Ankylosing spondylitis (AS): Though primarily affecting the spine, AS can also cause pain and stiffness in the pelvis.
Other mimics
Several other conditions can present with sudden, widespread joint pain that may be mistaken for RA:
Viral arthritis: Viruses like parvovirus B19 or Chikungunya can cause acute, multi-joint pain. Symptoms usually resolve once the infection clears.
Lyme disease: This tick-borne illness can cause widespread joint pain and other symptoms similar to RA. Unlike RA, the pain can shift from joint to joint, and it is usually responsive to antibiotics.
Whipple's disease: This rare bacterial infection can cause arthritis that mimics RA, especially in seronegative patients. [/excerpt
The above is not comprehensive, but if your physician is not having these possibilities investigated, you may need to demand that they do.
Other things to investigate that don't fall into the inflammatory disease category: spinal stenosis, degenerative disk disease, or a more acute issue like spinal cord compression or transverse myelitis.
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So sorry. I wish I had any useful advice at all, but this is beyond my experience.
eppur_se_muova
Tuesday
#19
Wishing you a full recovery! I had a tri fractured ankle back in 2012. I gope you've been seen by someone!...
electric_blue68
Wednesday
#91
I'm so sorry to read about your suffering. The problem with narcotics for pain is how quickly you develop a tolerance
Vinca
Tuesday
#51
That's a terrble thing to endure! I'm 72. When I was around 16 I had...
electric_blue68
Wednesday
#92
Oh, God, LC, I'm so sorry. Sending healing vibes, but I also want to mention vitamin C, which can help
highplainsdem
Tuesday
#63
Sending you healing prayers. I am so sorry you are going through this. You are a treasure here
skylucy
Tuesday
#77
Horrific! I'm so sorry! I'm sure you have doctors attempting to diagnose the pain, but has this included...
pat_k
Tuesday
#80
Call your doctor, Lucky. Get something so you can rest. Please. Just call. ASAP. I wish our love could ease your pain.
ancianita
Tuesday
#81
So Sorry, Lucky Charms! I hope either one or more of the suggestions offered start to give you some relief!
electric_blue68
Wednesday
#90
So sorry for what you're having to endure. Words seem inadequate for such terrible pain, but
chia
Wednesday
#97
I've been on iv bags of the stuff. Makes you feel like you're going out of your mind.
Clouds Passing
Wednesday
#114