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ariadne0614

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10. Keeping the long view in the background allows me to maintain my sanity.

Reply to PoindexterOglethorpe (Original post)

Fri Oct 24, 2025, 12:11 PM

Oct 24

I just finished reading Apocalypse: A Transformative Exploration of Humanity's Resilience Through Cataclysmic Events, by Lizzy Wade. It helped me calm down as well. We need to think rationally, in order to increase the chances of a good outcome for this cycle.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/217223360-apocalypse

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"The Fourth Turning" by William Strauss and Neil Howe. [View all] PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 24 OP

Read that a few years ago. Not a fan of the premise...nt Wounded Bear Oct 24 #1

the writers seem EXCITED about possibilities... ret5hd Oct 24 #3

Yes, much loved by neo-nazi christian dominionist accelerationists. Main psychosocial history on FReak site. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 24 #7

And there are the Christians who want to witness PatSeg Oct 24 #18

9/11 caused the fourth turning MaineBlueBear Oct 24 #2

That was probably part of the 3rd turning Renew Deal Oct 24 #25

My thinking is it will take a generation to settle. cachukis Oct 24 #4

Exactly. It takes longer for things to settle PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 24 #8

I believe Steve Bannon is a big believer in this. underpants Oct 24 #5

It's a thought provoking hypothesis but not especially fact based Bernardo de La Paz Oct 24 #6

They also quote dozens of PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 24 #9

Keeping the long view in the background allows me to maintain my sanity. ariadne0614 Oct 24 #10

Thanks for that suggestion. PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 24 #12

I hope it's as interesting to you as it was to me. ariadne0614 Oct 24 #14

Sounds a lot like the crap spouted by the Temple Mount Faithful. pecosbob Oct 24 #11

I have nelver heard of the Temple Mount Faithful. PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 24 #13

Leaping to conclusions is so much easier. n/t ariadne0614 Oct 24 #15

It's good and it explains historical cycles Renew Deal Oct 24 #16

What Gen Z riots? WhiskeyGrinder Oct 24 #21

Gen z riots kcoates Oct 24 #22

Correct Renew Deal Oct 24 #23

Our mantra in our household has been doom/gloom since Jan GusBob Oct 24 #17

Thanks. I'll get it. Scrivener7 Oct 24 #19

"Essentially things will get a whole lot worse before they get better, and a lot of things will change." WhiskeyGrinder Oct 24 #20

the other part of it is the consistent 80 year cycle Renew Deal Oct 24 #24

Reconstruction comes after destruction? Do tell. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 24 #29

What happened in Europe after WW2? Renew Deal Oct 24 #30

I'm saying a person doesn't need pseudo science to figure that out. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 24 #31

They buried 80 million dead people leftstreet Oct 24 #33

It's long and complicated, what happened PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 24 #34

You assume too much Renew Deal Oct 24 #37

I'm not assuming anything. PoindexterOglethorpe Saturday #40

Semi-related albeit through a technical lens: TheProle Oct 24 #26

Sustainable capitalism biophile Oct 24 #32

I'm near certain that I'll be dead ZDU Oct 24 #27

Nuclear Annihilation? yankee87 Oct 24 #28

Oh my gosh, my vision disability interpreted the word turning to be tuning quite a different kettle of fish msfiddlestix Oct 24 #35

I think Steve Bannon is fan of that book AZProgressive Oct 24 #36

So is Newt Gingrich. thought crime Oct 24 #38

It's pop history. It passes as intellectualism in an anti-intellectual movement. thought crime Oct 24 #39

Something about a widening gyre? Orrex Saturday #41