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In reply to the discussion: Do you support Janet Mills or Graham Platner for Maine Democratic senatorial candidate? [View all]Bluetus
(1,729 posts)You present a piece of artwork that has nothing to do with Plattner, you claim that artwork is a Nazi thing (and it may be). You claim that Plattner's tattoo looks just like your artwork, but you can't show us a picture of the actual tattoo?
And then you say it is MY responsibility to prove that he didn't have a tattoo resembling your artwork?
Come on. Seriously?
If you want to have credibility in this instance, you really need to show the original tattoo. Plattner has said he regarded the tattoo as a plain old skull and crossbones and he was unaware until recently that the image has been associated with Nazi police. A basic skull and crossbones is quite common and few people would be aware that there was a special variation of skull and crossbones that had a particular Nazi association. In addition, this symbol was not used broadly across the Nazi movement, but was adopted by a few divisions, and even in that limited use, there wasn't a single version of the artwork. There were variations. Compared to other common skull and crossbones artwork, the Nazi ones are distinct by placing the bones behind the neck, whereas it is more common to place the bones below the skull. Also, the Nazi variations all seem to depict a fracture in the skull. Did Plattner's tattoo have these features? Did it have any text that would clearly associate it with the Nazi usage?
Be honest. A week ago, if you saw somebody on the street with this particular style of skull and crossbones, would you have associated that with the Nazi police? I am betting fewer than 1 in 10,000 people would do so.
This sign warning of poison looks very much like your artwork. If a company had this sign on display, would you suspect the company is a secret Nazi operation?
https://www.mysafetylabels.com/warning-labels/iso-7010-safety-label-toxic-poison/sku-lb-0443
We might all heed the disclaimer on the Anti-Defamation League website: "All the symbols depicted in the hate symbols database must be evaluated in the context in which they appear. Few symbols represent just one idea or are used exclusively by one group."