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Metaphorical

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79. No, they do get called on it
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 10:36 AM
Jul 19

Just not by the corporate (Trump) friendly media.

We have an echo chamber effect here. Traditional corporate media is dying: its influence on the Internet is and has been fading for a long time, but that media still has an outsized influence in Washington, DC.

The corporate media is an odd beast. It doesn't necessarily reflect reality. Its audience is and always has been a core cadre of influential power movers and shakers. Those who follow that media of course want to be part of that cadre, but generally aren't. This is what many people, even many Democrats, don't really understand - such media really don't care about anyone unless they are in the group they want to influence.

At the same time, when the influential become uncomfortable (even worried) about how they themselves are being perceived, the media mogul faces a problem - do they curry favor with the autocrat if it reduces its influence on its core group, or do they become more adversarial.

This is why the Epstein case is such a big deal. Pedophilia is condemned because as a society we are (theoretically) protective of our children. It's a very dark stain on one's reputation precisely because of that condemnation, and while these people may be morally bankrupt, the image that they want to project about themselves falls apart when they are seen to support such heinous activity. Moreover, this is an absolute case of guilt by association: if you are as associate of a leader who is believed to be a pedophile, does this mean that you are a pedophile also? Whether or not they actually are is irrelevant, it is the belief that is important here, and it is a belief that is remarkably difficult to dispel once established.

The rube farmer in the MAGA hat is a frequent target on DU, but he or she is also a distraction. The real danger comes from the corporate executives and eight+ figure investors who quietly backed Trump in order to gain fiscal and power advantages of their own, who don't really care about his morals, but do care about the perception of their own by their own backers. Right now, they are weathering the storm, hoping that something will come along to get the issue out of the news cycle, but Trump's past IS catching up to him, and the more that others get splattered with his s**t, the more THEY will call for his removal.

Ironically, this is a vicious cycle, because those calls of course amplify Trump's many failings, which only increases the blowback on his moneyed supporters. They are now wondering whether it is time that Trump be fired and replaced with someone who doesn't have all of the man's baggage. Trump's attitude is to cow the corporate media, but that only works for so long before fear of Trump becomes replaced by fear of a loss of reputation in that media's core constituency because of Trump.

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Power, money, privilege, and fear are determining the country's course. /nt bucolic_frolic Jul 18 #1
So the press gave the republicon a free pass to lie BoRaGard Jul 18 #2
CNBC badgolfer Jul 18 #7
Thanks for that senseandsensibility Jul 18 #11
The problem is they really believe it Zorro Jul 19 #73
Disgustpating senseandsensibility Jul 18 #8
Had to look it up. Neat word MaineBlueBear Jul 19 #69
Did Ruper say that to Johnson's face? No? Well report when someone does. Srkdqltr Jul 18 #3
Rupar wrote that on bluesky senseandsensibility Jul 18 #5
reposted on bluesky vapor2 Jul 18 #12
Could be true... Mike Nelson Jul 18 #4
"There's never been a President that high" leftstreet Jul 18 #6
I was a Chicago Cubs fan back in the 50s when they were really bad rurallib Jul 18 #9
We do that in Colorado every year, now. Bristlecone Jul 18 #41
The harsh reality is... purr-rat beauty Jul 18 #10
Yeah, they are just like him. No surprise. Raven123 Jul 18 #51
Yeah! Trump is almost as popular as Saddam Hussein. Turbineguy Jul 18 #13
And Johnson reminds me of Baghdad Bob. Dave Bowman Jul 18 #31
It's so insulting to be told such blatant lies! Diamond_Dog Jul 18 #14
He has apparently "lost it." He is out-Trumping Trump. kerry-is-my-prez Jul 18 #15
And he is still treated like some kind of reasonable senseandsensibility Jul 18 #16
Li'l Pervy should take a good long look at Marco Rubio, & see what a man who has sold his soul looks like... Hekate Jul 18 #17
I've been noticing that expression on Rubio's face for months senseandsensibility Jul 18 #22
Rick Wilson has an interesting take on Rubio in the last 5 minutes of this screed on Trump.... Hekate Jul 18 #24
For a Jesus Traildogbob Jul 18 #18
Krasnov's neck vagina, or ear vagina? BoRaGard Jul 18 #23
He's twisting the truth - still lying. There was a recent poll that showed him at 90% approval amongst republicans. tulipsandroses Jul 18 #19
Well he specifically quoted CNN senseandsensibility Jul 18 #20
The podcast was talking about the same poll reported on CNN - but they were saying that it was deceptive tulipsandroses Jul 18 #32
See Post 59. tulipsandroses Jul 18 #62
Mike is going to hell now. Emile Jul 18 #21
Lying through omission or willful ignorance The Wizard Jul 19 #83
Damn, I always wanted to be a part of the ten percent BOSSHOG Jul 18 #25
The seemingly mild-manners Mike Johnson is a sneaky, evil, kiss-ass of the highest order. brush Jul 18 #26
And he's second in line for the Presidency. llmart Jul 18 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author senseandsensibility Jul 18 #35
Me too. And Vance is first. Yuck! Then Johnson, yuck also. Then that kiss ass Rubio whose principles are... brush Jul 18 #36
Early on in this maladministration EuterpeThelo Jul 19 #74
Yeah. It's depressing as hell. I don't know if our democracy can be saved... brush Jul 19 #86
3rd. j.d. is second. mwmisses4289 Jul 18 #38
Apologies, y'all are right he is second behind j.d. mwmisses4289 Jul 18 #40
Actually you are right bottomofthehill Jul 19 #78
History will embarrass these pathetc, ass kissing idiots Demovictory9 Jul 18 #27
The Emperor's clothes have never looked so beautiful Blue Owl Jul 18 #28
Mike Johnson is a shameless toady Picaro Jul 18 #29
Toady is the perfect work to describe him. brush Jul 18 #37
Yes, I feel that it does not get enough use these days senseandsensibility Jul 18 #44
Ditto, ditto, ditto, and so on. brush Jul 18 #47
Weiner boy says "There's never been a president that high". twodogsbarking Jul 18 #30
Mike is playing all fucking sides of the fence right now regarding Trump, solely to his own benefit. He's fucking nuts. Karasu Jul 18 #34
Johnson's Diagnosis: HUHA Donman Jul 18 #39
Hey, Mike Johnson: Jesus thinks you're a fuckhead. Paladin Jul 18 #42
I would suspect it has crept up a point or two but it won't last Warpy Jul 18 #43
Actually it's been trending consistently downward over the past month Wiz Imp Jul 18 #50
"The weird reason Speaker Mike Johnson claimed Trump has a '90% approval rating'" Wiz Imp Jul 18 #45
Thank you for all that information senseandsensibility Jul 18 #46
I might be misremembering the exact details, but I recall Rush Asswart saying TurboDem Jul 18 #63
He is with Republicans doc03 Jul 18 #48
Oh, and the claim that nobody's ever been that high is BS of course. Wiz Imp Jul 18 #49
Thanks for all that fact checking senseandsensibility Jul 18 #67
A YouGov/Economist poll taken 7/11 thru 7/14 (so it would capture some of the Epstein backlash but likely not the full Wiz Imp Jul 18 #52
It would appear that... GiqueCee Jul 18 #53
I worked with a RWer who was all about Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 18 #64
90%, eh, Mr. Evil Jul 18 #54
rump's Most Favorable Pollster Has Approval Rating Negative struggle4progress Jul 18 #55
rump's approval rating on immigration and government spending has slipped struggle4progress Jul 18 #57
I wonder how many times kacekwl Jul 18 #56
Mike isn't the brightest turtle on the post struggle4progress Jul 18 #61
90% approval where? In the Republican Congress, in IT's own mind, in Johnson's house? LoisB Jul 18 #58
Why Speaker Mike claimed rump has 90% approval struggle4progress Jul 18 #59
They just keep doing this, and they don't get called on it senseandsensibility Jul 18 #60
No, they do get called on it Metaphorical Jul 19 #79
Its context driven XCSki Jul 18 #65
Wow! Trigger Warning - biblical reference (wink, wink) GAJMac Jul 18 #66
"witness against your neighbor." It all depends on the GOP's definition of "neighbor". Marcuse Jul 19 #71
My vote goes to Moses Johnson (MoJo) Seinan Sensei Jul 19 #72
Trump's Most Favorable Pollster Has Approval Rating Negative for First Time Historic NY Jul 18 #68
well...now...don't get all excited. Trueblue Texan Jul 19 #70
90% approval, yes Norbert Jul 19 #75
A "christian" my ass. spanone Jul 19 #76
The only thing that's high is Mike Johnson. He's stoned from huffing Trump's farts. Ocelot II Jul 19 #77
Time for everyone to realize... traveler50 Jul 19 #80
Welcome to DU! senseandsensibility Jul 19 #85
Approve 42% Disapprove 56% He must have gotten them mixed. LOLOLOL appleannie1 Jul 19 #81
You have to read between the lines quakerboy Jul 19 #82
Mickey lies like trump does, often. republianmushroom Jul 19 #84
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