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119. Al is not interested, especially in working with Senators who threw him under the bus

Fri May 30, 2025, 12:34 AM

May 30

The whole series of accusations was an open scam engineered (even announced in advance!) by Roger Stone. That Al didn’t immediately mount a huge defense was due to the fact that he trusted his fellow Democratic Senators to see through it. It blew his mind that they didn’t. He gave them far too much credit. Some (Nelson, Tester, Whitehouse, et al) have made their apologies. Too many have not. Franni is still livid. Al has come to terms with it, but is not over it.

Of those Senators who trashed him during their 2020 presidential campaigns, I have supported the 2020 primary campaigns of exactly none of them, and if any of them run again in the 2028 primaries, I will again support none of them for the nomination. Not Sanders, not Warren, not Booker, not Harris, not Gillibrand. I will obviously fully, and unhesitatingly support the nominee, no matter who it is, as I did last year. Nonetheless, it is my fervent hope that our nominee will be someone other than one of those five. Realistically, it is my expectation as well, just as I am more than a little bit confident that Al will not be trying for it, either. He can read a calendar as well as anyone.

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I know the Democrat I want to run in 2028. [View all] Chasstev365 May 29 OP

Gov. Jay Inslee (D-WA) The Blue Flower May 29 #1

I supported Inslee in 2020 Chasstev365 May 29 #3

He was my choice too dsc May 29 #13

Three. Aristus May 29 #36

Inslee was my first choice, too DFW May 29 #113

He'd be almost 78 years old Mountainguy May 29 #2

Fair point Chasstev365 May 29 #4

Pete Buttigieg milestogo May 29 #5

Pete has to be the next Secretary of State. We're going to need a master communicator Arazi May 29 #6

He'd be ideal! DFW May 30 #117

If America won't elect a woman Chasstev365 May 29 #7

Absolutely correct--America will NOT elect a woman. elocs May 29 #27

Andy Beshear will be the next President. Meadowoak May 30 #126

As far as I see it, Beshear's only qualification pinkstarburst May 30 #146

Entirely qualified but what he hasn't got it the ability to be elected. elocs May 29 #26

I BELIEVE! True Dough May 29 #91

We need the black vote Bluestocking May 30 #136

Pete Buttigieg is the whole package! pinkstarburst May 30 #145

He's 3rd way. He's against health care. Blue Full Moon May 30 #156

Oh, my. milestogo May 30 #159

Sen Tammy Duckworth. marble falls May 29 #8

Yes, losing 3 out of the last 4 elections would be 75%. elocs May 29 #29

Gov. Pritzker SheltieLover May 29 #9

He would be great! Chasstev365 May 29 #11

He would! Dems in IL love him! SheltieLover May 29 #16

*YES*! - but everybody I pick gets jinxed, arrrgh. So... UTUSN May 29 #31

Oh no! SheltieLover May 29 #48

On the radar uponit7771 May 29 #51

He may be my adopted candidate. There's a lot of time between now and then. NBachers May 29 #88

Sure is. SheltieLover May 29 #108

What about mzmolly May 29 #10

I admire Jon greatly, and consider him the smartest Senator DFW May 30 #116

LOL mzmolly May 30 #118

Actually, I DID tell him that when we had dinner in DC in January. DFW May 30 #120

Very interesting. mzmolly May 30 #154

Here is a pic from a little dinner I organized in Washington a couple of years ago. DFW May 30 #143

WOW! mzmolly May 30 #152

Senators Ossoff, Kelly and Hickenlooper can now all say DFW May 30 #153

Lol mzmolly May 30 #155

In THAT room, anyway DFW May 30 #158

Haha mzmolly May 30 #161

Great to hear that. greymattermom May 30 #133

Jon has a great chance to be reelected Senator next year. Janbdwl72 May 30 #151

I think Jon would love another full term in the Senate DFW May 30 #157

Or mzmolly May 29 #12

Yes, we desperately need to win the election in 2028 and need a solid, safe pick elocs May 29 #30

LOL mzmolly May 29 #33

I think you're right since he has a good sense of humor. elocs May 29 #35

Sounds like you're in a lovely mzmolly May 29 #87

Yes indeedy! Bayard May 29 #67

No chance I would ever support Franken in a Democratic primary. Plus he would turn 81 in his first term. Celerity May 29 #14

Good point about the age issue SocialDemocrat61 May 29 #15

I will let the first Democratic Senator to go on national television and call for him to resign speak for me: Celerity May 29 #18

Isn't interesting that SocialDemocrat61 May 29 #21

I have brought that very point up (in great detail) since I joined DU 7 years ago. Celerity May 29 #23

It is amazing that so many SocialDemocrat61 May 30 #124

Plus many ignore the multiple Democratic women who said Franken harassed them. They only talk about Celerity May 30 #129

I agree SocialDemocrat61 May 30 #130

Why is Adam Schiff never on these lists? I really like him, he's stepped up so many times in the past few months. n/t SheilaAnn May 30 #149

He just was elected to the US Senate, I doubt he is already thinking about moving on from that. Celerity May 30 #150

I loved Al Franken as a senator - he got a bad rap - but he wouldn't have a chance Ocelot II May 29 #53

Al is not interested, especially in working with Senators who threw him under the bus DFW May 30 #119

BTW SocialDemocrat61 May 29 #17

Like I didn't know that? Chasstev365 May 29 #19

No they weren't SocialDemocrat61 May 29 #22

The New Deal ended? mzmolly May 29 #24

Yes it did SocialDemocrat61 May 29 #28

You're clueless mzmolly May 29 #32

No I acknowledge reality SocialDemocrat61 May 29 #37

No, mzmolly May 29 #44

The new deal ended decades ago SocialDemocrat61 May 29 #47

Today's voters care about The New Deal. mzmolly May 29 #49

Tell that to a young black voter SocialDemocrat61 May 29 #50

I've spoken to many black voters mzmolly May 29 #52

On steroids being the operative word SocialDemocrat61 May 29 #60

The problems of the 1930's will be ours again, mzmolly May 29 #63

Democrats need policies relevant to today SocialDemocrat61 May 29 #68

We're going to revert to the 1930's mzmolly May 29 #75

Yes, and to achieve SocialDemocrat61 May 29 #96

New policies much like The New Deal. mzmolly May 29 #98

No new policies SocialDemocrat61 May 29 #101

Give us your new and exciting list. mzmolly May 29 #102

I don't have one SocialDemocrat61 May 29 #105

Greatest hits from the past? mzmolly May 29 #110

Agreed SocialDemocrat61 May 30 #121

This is the point where I vacate this thread. NBachers May 29 #92

We still have New Deal programs and structure, but... thought crime May 30 #128

Not sure who generally considered it to have ended in the 70s mzmolly May 30 #134

Yes, Trump & Co. is trying to "dismantle the Administrative State" thought crime May 30 #137

Read This: Chasstev365 May 29 #42

So now we're going back to the 80s? SocialDemocrat61 May 29 #43

Can we go back to April? mzmolly May 29 #46

There's very little left to destroy SocialDemocrat61 May 29 #56

The fact that some programs no longer exist mzmolly May 29 #61

Yes they no longer exist because the new deal ended decades ago SocialDemocrat61 May 29 #66

You get A, for repetitive commentary. mzmolly May 29 #73

Thanks SocialDemocrat61 May 29 #74

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That was mean. SocialDemocrat61 May 29 #78

This message was self-deleted by its author mzmolly May 29 #81

Thanks SocialDemocrat61 May 29 #94

You're going to lose this one Keepthesoulalive May 29 #55

Exactly my point SocialDemocrat61 May 29 #57

We ALL benefit today mzmolly May 29 #59

No argument there SocialDemocrat61 May 29 #62

I would say in one form or another mzmolly May 29 #64

And the ones that remain in place SocialDemocrat61 May 29 #70

That doesn't render it mzmolly May 29 #79

Never said it did SocialDemocrat61 May 29 #93

. mzmolly May 29 #104

Be sure SocialDemocrat61 May 29 #107

I never do. mzmolly May 29 #111

Good. SocialDemocrat61 May 30 #122

Benefit is relative Keepthesoulalive May 29 #65

I am not saying there wasn't a necessary evolution mzmolly May 29 #80

It wasn't because of altruism Keepthesoulalive May 29 #89

"need to focus on the future, not the past"--- that's why we didn't Jack Valentino May 29 #69

Yes certain programs still remain SocialDemocrat61 May 29 #72

Defending is not "rehashing", unless you think we should throw all those programs Jack Valentino May 29 #85

Never said to throw anything under the bus SocialDemocrat61 May 29 #95

so noted. I think the new administration should be referred to as Jack Valentino May 29 #97

Definitely SocialDemocrat61 May 29 #99

Well mzmolly May 29 #84

Actually, New Deal economic programs DO resonate with voters thought crime May 30 #132

I think democrats need to focus on policies that will resonate SocialDemocrat61 May 30 #135

The New Deal Era lasted into the 70's thought crime May 30 #139

I don't know SocialDemocrat61 May 30 #140

I'd be delighted if we could find another Jimmy Carter. Intelligent, Dignified, Humane, and Deent. Ping Tung May 29 #20

Carter was my very first presidential vote in 1972. elocs May 29 #38

Carter ran in 76 SocialDemocrat61 May 29 #45

My first vote fr President. The term "Shining City on the Hill" always comes to mind. mjvpi May 29 #40

Walz? SheltieLover May 29 #82

Kamala made things about a plain and simple as you can get. She had a good an complete message from affordable housing Jit423 May 29 #25

Yes, a Kamala loss, beaten by Trump and even there were Democrats who didn't vote. elocs May 29 #34

Don't tell that to Bill Clinton or Barack Obama DFW May 29 #114

The difference being that Clinton and Obama won. SocialDemocrat61 May 30 #125

Obviously DFW May 30 #142

But they have to be hetero white men ? JI7 May 29 #39

Running just white men and not supporting women or people of color is wrong Pris May 29 #71

Right to run, differs from mzmolly May 29 #106

Andrew Cuomo could win. Why don't we run him ? JI7 May 29 #41

Let's get him elected Mayor first Polybius May 30 #147

Al Franken will be 77 in 2028 Polybius May 29 #54

I do too BannonsLiver May 29 #58

I love him but like others have said he is too old Tree Lady May 29 #77

A Straight White Male :( speak easy May 29 #83

God forbid BWdem4life May 29 #90

Bring back The Wizard May 29 #86

In the '30s and '60s Democrats had large majorities and bipartisan Republicans to work with. betsuni May 29 #100

Because some are locked in the past SocialDemocrat61 May 29 #103

The BS "Dems ignore the working class" and "FDR was a democratic socialist not a liberal Democrat so betsuni May 29 #112

Many people often take a simplistic view SocialDemocrat61 May 30 #123

Huge Dem majorities in Congress during the '30s and a normal opposition party to work with betsuni May 30 #127

No way. He will be 77 years old on Election Day in 2028. We need to aim our sights on younger officials. LonePirate May 29 #109

So his counter to his sexual harassment would be Trump is worse? LexVegas May 29 #115

How about Mark Cuban? Doodley May 30 #131

The Democratic presidents in my lifetime with the exception of Joe Biden were all younger, doc03 May 30 #138

To answer your question: Polybius May 30 #148

Andy Beshear two-time governor of Kentucky Ritabert May 30 #141

bless your heart! n.t librechik May 30 #144

J.B. Pritzger red dog 1 May 30 #160