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cab67

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22. in-house journals are not, in and of themselves, bad things.
Wed May 28, 2025, 06:06 PM
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In my field, much of the literature I use comes from journals based at a specific museum. The American Museum of Natural History publishes American Museum Novitates and Bulletin of the American Museum of Natural History; the Field Museum in Chicago publishes Fieldiana; and so on. Some of these are private institutions, but not all - the Smithsonian, for example, is responsible for several publication series.

Most of these journals are peer-reviewed just like any other journal. I've reviewed manuscripts for several of them. A few of the older ones aren't peer-reviewed so much as edited, but these are in the minority and generally publish in very narrow fields in which the only experts qualified to review them work for the museum. Authors aren't necessarily museum employees, though there's usually some connection to the mother institution, either with one or more authors or with specimens described in the paper.

These are in-house journals. I cite them all the time. They're just as good as other journals.

There are even precedents for journals or periodicals operated by federal agencies. The US Geological Survey used to publish a bulletin series, for example. It started in the days before peer review became a thing, but instituted peer review after it became one.

But what's being discussed now is a whole other thing.

What scares me isn't the suggestion that the CDC and other agencies should publish in-house journals; it's that these would almost certainly be set up with an editorial board appointed by the crazy person running HHS, or by people who think like him. They would not treat the journal like other journals. They'd likely enforce some sort of ideological purity. I'm sure they'd call it something like "adherence to current departmental norms," but it would lead to the promotion of the crazy shit this crazy person believes.

If a journal based out of the CDC could be managed by proper scientists who know how peer review works, I'd be all in favor of it. But that will have to wait until the CDC answers to an HHS secretary who isn't a crazy person.

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pootin must still be really jealous of our education system and professionals -- both medical and engineering -- 2 SheltieLover Wednesday #1
I just read this about 10 minutes ago and my first inclination was.. Just try it Peacetrain Wednesday #6
I couldn't agree more. Nothing sickems me as much as kraznov in our WH SheltieLover Wednesday #9
Not just their feet. 3catwoman3 Wednesday #15
Freedom of Speech ... he has no power there NotHardly Wednesday #25
His dad and uncle would be so ashamed of what he's become.... Bayard Wednesday #2
ignore him RJ-MacReady Wednesday #3
And vitamin A. And cod liver oil. louis-t Wednesday #4
Don''t forget that light placed in a body cavity. Somebody needs to put a light in RFK Jr's allegorical oracle Wednesday #12
I wonder if the courts can override that. He's only prohibiting publication in some journals. Jim__ Wednesday #5
Katy Tur earlier reported that RFK Jr said he would prefer to have "in-house" publications be allegorical oracle Wednesday #11
The point of these publications choie Wednesday #30
If scientists cannot report the results of their research, then there is no reason to conduct research. Irish_Dem Wednesday #7
I know!!! It is so absurd its hard to believe anyone would even think to try such a tactic Peacetrain Wednesday #8
Our current reality has become totally absurd. Irish_Dem Wednesday #10
It is almost like stopping the Climate Observatory on Mt. Mauna Loa Botany Wednesday #23
Scientists must be destroyed because they are truth tellers based on data and facts. Irish_Dem Wednesday #27
+1 dalton99a Wednesday #13
RFK Jr. already has all the knowledge you need. dalton99a Wednesday #14
Could someone tell me why? How does this benefit RFK jr or MAGA or anyone else for that matter? Fil1957 Wednesday #16
They want to destroy the expert class edhopper Wednesday #20
It benefits Putin to have America Destroyed.. Cha Wednesday #21
He is obviously seriously mentally ill. milestogo Wednesday #17
Anyone else notice how often we end up concluding that so many people in this admin. are nuts? From allegorical oracle Wednesday #24
Then there needs to be an underground journal sakabatou Wednesday #18
Since when does he even have the power to do this? ShazzieB Wednesday #19
The opinion of the journals does not matter fargone Wednesday #26
Yeah, I see that now. ShazzieB Wednesday #32
in-house journals are not, in and of themselves, bad things. cab67 Wednesday #22
Wonder if there will be any quality scientists left in our governmental employ given all the nonsense? dutch777 Wednesday #28
Can he even do that? choie Wednesday #29
This is what happens when you put simpletons in charge. Doodley Wednesday #31
Maddow Blog-The Trump administration's 'MAHA Report' cites nonexistent scientific studies LetMyPeopleVote Thursday #33
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