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Stargleamer

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69. They may think they value justice. . .

Wed May 28, 2025, 02:47 PM

May 28

and I get that you are trying to see things from their vantage point, but if injustice is commonly defined as "a lack of fairness or justice, meaning a situation or action where people are not treated equally or where rights are violated" then it is injustice they are valuing. not justice. When they have no problem voting for a racist who said of Haitian-Americans, "They're eating the dogs, they're eating the cats", then it's racism they are valuing, not "treating others equally and honoring their rights", aka justice.

They have read the Bible and know that bearing false witness is a sin, so when TCF is convicted 34 times of essentially lying by falsifying business records they know that essentially amounts to bearing false witness. I would think they would agree with the cadet honor code, which states that, "A cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do". Applying a Trump exception to that code, shows a departure from any common sensical sense of right and wrong, in favor of a cult leader they look up to because they so love his resentment/hatred of the marginalized, so much so that they are willing to overlook the harm he has caused. As a result, they can just apply a Trump exception to any such honor codes, and by doing so they turn toward injustice, not justice.

Housing discrimination in the 1970's against African'-Americans, calling for the death penalty for the Central Park 5, cheating people (Trump University scam and Trump University scam), sexually assaulting E. Jean Carroll are and then defaming her are all examples of injustice, which MAGAs give TCF a pass on, thereby turning themselves towards injustice, not justice. If "valuing justice" gets so loosely defined to include disregarding injustice and to use your words, "tilt[ing] just towards themselves" then mob figures and many criminals and rapists "value justice".

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I simply cannot fathom the level of hate that these assholes have towards other people. It's truly unbelieveable. [View all] hamsterjill May 23 OP

It's un-American to have this much hatred toward their fellow Americans. They don't even know Walleye May 23 #1

Led to the Dixiecrats going Republican paleotn May 23 #8

It's unfortunate that these people cannot think logically, nor can they speak for their own true selves, Clouds Passing May 24 #44

That about sums it up. They've been told that their problems are caused by others. harumph May 23 #2

I don't get it either Jilly_in_VA May 23 #3

One of the reasons I left the church long ago. paleotn May 23 #10

And one reason Jilly_in_VA May 23 #38

Nasty ole social Darwinists. Gum Logger May 24 #49

Jesus said... ultralite001 May 23 #36

Exactly. Rs & Ds have same values except Ds add care for larger community while Rs have hate for it Bernardo de La Paz May 23 #4

Republicans, who support Trump no longer value family, justice, or country. Eliot Rosewater May 24 #61

It may soothe you to say so, but it is not true and it gives no insight Bernardo de La Paz May 24 #65

They do value justice?? Stargleamer May 25 #67

They do. But you have to see if from their (wrong, sometimes racist) perspective to understand. Bernardo de La Paz May 26 #68

They may think they value justice. . . Stargleamer May 28 #69

To me, the hate is a manifestation of fear GenThePerservering May 23 #5

Fear & self-loathing. They hate themselves, they hate the world. CaptainTruth May 23 #23

Caring is weak. Libs are weak. Hate the weak libs. ECL213 May 23 #6

Agree. Libs are "snowflakes" because we care about others. Think about this every allegorical oracle May 23 #20

IMO, the real divide in this country that looks like left/right, liberal/conservative... William Seger May 24 #39

That's the message. yardwork May 28 #70

Empathy is a sin IronLionZion May 23 #7

Exactly Lion Hey Joe May 23 #12

Everyone needs to stop saying they can't believe the BS - Nigrum Cattus May 23 #9

I live amongst them. hamsterjill May 23 #16

Am in a similar setting. I've helped them at times and vice-versa. Except for politics. nt allegorical oracle May 23 #21

The hate and selfishness comes up from the repug voters and flows through them to us. Hotler May 23 #11

It's a new form of MAGA "Christianity" Mblaze May 23 #13

"Victory" Christianity has been a thing for awhile KentuckyWoman May 24 #43

Thanks for your response. Mblaze May 24 #46

Marketing and propaganda. KentuckyWoman May 24 #47

Take people with empty heads. Aristus May 23 #14

The power of propaganda. CaptainTruth May 23 #24

What a miserable existence it must be... 3catwoman3 May 23 #15

I can fathom the level of hate. I have it for them now and I've never been like that before. OverBurn May 23 #17

Most look away as unmarked kidnappers BidenRocks May 23 #18

They are the party of hatred and intolerance Grim Chieftain May 23 #19

It is nursing home patients who make up valleyrogue May 23 #22

Texas (my home state) is #3 and had 3.8 million on Medicaid in 2024. hamsterjill May 23 #25

Anyone who says they are Christian and follows that party are heretics kimbutgar May 23 #26

+1000 hamsterjill May 23 #28

I don't ever want to be that type of Xtian magaloon money grubbing selfish jerk! kimbutgar May 23 #30

Me, either! hamsterjill May 23 #32

I liked Leo too but have recently read that he opposes same sex marriage and other rights for LGBTQ persons... wcmagumba May 24 #55

I grew up thinking we were the best because we accepted all of those who came to our borders. I cannot OLDMDDEM May 23 #27

MAGA cultist sint see it as hate cause Trump doesn't call it so uponit7771 May 23 #29

We don't have a president in the White House. We have a crazy, dangerous terrorist dalton99a May 23 #31

Scratch that surface and it always turns out they hate themselves. Scrivener7 May 23 #33

It's called Selfishness Mr.Bee May 23 #34

When judgemental people don't like Emile May 23 #35

You have to realize wha's hiding under that hate, it's fear Warpy May 23 #37

It is a definite pathology dlk May 24 #40

You cannot love or hate something about another person unless it reflects something you love or hate about yourself. usonian May 24 #41

On top of being evil it will be bad for the economy IbogaProject May 24 #42

But... czarjak May 24 #45

Not only do I fathom their hate---I return it. They deserve no better. (nt) Paladin May 24 #48

I'm with you drmeow May 24 #50

Not an easy distinction to maintain---but a useful one, nonetheless. (nt) Paladin May 24 #53

There is one place where I can easily drmeow May 24 #66

Post removed Post removed May 24 #51

Well Hi!!! GP6971 May 24 #54

K&R spanone May 24 #52

So true samplegirl May 24 #56

Years of brainwashing by Faux News and rightwing radio Wicked Blue May 24 #57

That's why they've been so easy to con. ananda May 24 #58

Does everybody here now understand what I and others have said Eliot Rosewater May 24 #59

I have always understood that. hamsterjill May 24 #62

I was equally screaming at people who trashed Hillary, whether they Eliot Rosewater May 24 #63

Yep, that too. hamsterjill May 24 #64

They are hateful and uncaring to CHILDREN for Gods sake. Diamond_Dog May 24 #60

Somewhere along the line, a lot of people began Torchlight May 28 #71