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Martin Eden

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37. From D-Day to VE day was 10+ months

Tue May 27, 2025, 06:57 PM

May 27

During that time the German army fought tenaciously on two fronts. Defeating the Nazi regime required great effort east & west.

The Russians wanted the Western allies to invade Europe in 1943, and were not happy when we decided to attack the Germans in Africa then up through Sicily & Italy.

A case can be made that holding back on invading Western Europe worked against Russian interests, allowing Germany to throw more resources at the Eastern front.

Long term geostrategic advantages are of course taken into consideration. Stalin was a monster to rival Hitler. We also had a major war to fight in the Pacific theater.

A degree of skepticism if not cynicism is called for, because the real motives behind wars are not necessarily for public consumption. Smedley Butler called the wars of the late 19th and early 20th century a "racket" fought to enrich corporations.

None of which means we should not honor the soldiers who sacrificed so much.

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This is probably my most "conservative" opinion [View all] senseandsensibility May 26 OP

That is neither a 'conservative' nor a 'progressive' stance, it is simply a correct one. Nation states often have their Celerity May 26 #1

I wholeheartedly agree with all you say. dchill May 26 #2

Why Is That Conservative? ProfessorGAC May 26 #3

No senseandsensibility May 26 #4

Good Plan ProfessorGAC May 26 #7

I cannot see how repukes in ANY way honor our troops Skittles May 26 #32

The greatest sacrifice of all awaits our men and women in uniform. Frasier Balzov May 26 #5

I grok. ananda May 26 #6

Fly it! Ksout May 26 #8

Welcome to DU senseandsensibility May 26 #9

Thank you for this heartfelt post Grim Chieftain May 26 #10

Welcome to DU senseandsensibility May 26 #11

Thanks for the welcome! Grim Chieftain May 26 #12

Well said ..those who died should be remembered JT45242 May 26 #13

Thank you Ksout May 26 #14

You should post more senseandsensibility May 26 #28

My Grandfather served in WW1 IbogaProject May 26 #15

I think having the experience of relatives who fought in WW1 or senseandsensibility May 26 #17

I honor their military service and their personal sacrifice. sop May 26 #16

American progressives and conservatives alike stand under the umbrella of Ol Janx Spirit May 26 #18

Very eloquent senseandsensibility May 26 #19

Google disagrees TnDem May 26 #20

? senseandsensibility May 26 #23

OK, and what would that be? TnDem May 26 #24

That sentiment is not conservative, it is proof of your humanity and good heart. LoisB May 26 #21

You're right senseandsensibility May 26 #25

You are absolutely correct. I never understood how they got to define themselves as the LoisB May 26 #26

Democrats do not tend to use soldiers as political props Skittles May 26 #33

Thank you, you are not alone! ZDU May 26 #22

I can understand that as the right has been trying to say they are the patriots for a long time. Eko May 26 #27

Conservative? Cirsium May 26 #29

YOU GOT THAT RIGHT Skittles May 27 #34

The teDUMP brand of patriotism is nauseating. magicarpet May 26 #30

Call it the cynic in me... WarGamer May 26 #31

We honor those who sacrificed, even needlessly Martin Eden May 27 #35

I'm quite the cynic... WarGamer May 27 #36

From D-Day to VE day was 10+ months Martin Eden May 27 #37