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15. Tapper's book isn't the sole source of information about Biden's decline in functioning

Tue May 27, 2025, 01:23 PM

May 27

Plenty of public info, including video, but also on the record, eye witness reports.

I’m not talking about claims of a cover up - if there was one, it was poorly executed, because the whole world could see Biden wasn’t functioning as well as he did just a year or two prior.

Biden’s administration was the most progressive since LBJ, however, his significant legacy, like LBJ’s, will be overshadowed, in Biden’s case, by a stubborn insistence on running for a second term, then dropping out far too late to give the Dems a fighting chance at winning.

I understand that is a painful reality for some to come to terms with, and I don’t begrudge anyone’s personal grieving process. I do however object when others insist we must grieve as they do, and support a denial of visible, verifiable facts.

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There was no cover-up and there was nothing wrong with President Biden [View all] Quiet Em May 27 OP

President Biden is still a very agile man, mentally and physically. Kamala will make a superb president of the US. Clouds Passing May 27 #1

Throughout his term as president, Joe Biden fought fiercely for justice. usonian May 27 #2

Why is that woman sitting next to a steaming trash heap? calimary May 27 #28

Don't feel TOO sorry for her. ShazzieB May 27 #35

I bet you're right. calimary May 27 #37

She is dreaming HappyH May 27 #40

Does she envision him with fires, ketchup, and a diet coke? Attilatheblond May 27 #44

I am reminded of the Munsters episode "The Fregosi Emerald" ... and "The Fregosi Curse" usonian May 27 #41

I don't have one ounce of sympathy for her. She's just as rotten. chowder66 May 27 #62

One steaming trash heap sitting next to another steaming trash heap. What's the jrthin May 27 #80

She is wondering "why hasn't this MF DIED, already??!!" Jack Valentino May 27 #99

they use each other Skittles May 28 #100

In my experience, that isn't acuity - it's a lid and brow lift. Ms. Toad May 27 #79

Interesting Hekate May 27 #81

Look at older photos of his eyes. Ms. Toad May 27 #83

HINT: It's the sparkle. usonian May 27 #82

That same "sparkle" is now present in my spouse's eyes, Ms. Toad May 27 #86

Here is what is important now. everyonematters May 27 #3

The first lesson Keepthesoulalive May 27 #4

MSM is Reich wing yankee87 May 27 #26

The Fairness Doctrine only applied to over the air broadcasts, not cable or internet media n/t MichMan May 27 #34

The real damage came with the Telecommunications Act. rubbersole May 27 #60

Now add that to the loss of civil and voting rights... ananda May 27 #56

If you said, would not be up to another 4 years, you would be correct karynnj May 27 #23

Had corporate media reported the facts, a strong majority of the voters would have known Trump was not up to the job. sop May 27 #29

Since Clinton and the "Great Clenis Hunt" I have been saying that when the autopsy is written on the USA, OMGWTF May 27 #49

Wrong, they knew and didn't care Pisces May 28 #102

I agree with you here Dorian Gray May 28 #109

Denial is a powerful coping mechanism Fiendish Thingy May 27 #5

If you expect rational DU'ers to "Accept" Trapper's half-truth hack job you might be in for a surprise. emulatorloo May 27 #8

Tapper's book isn't the sole source of information about Biden's decline in functioning Fiendish Thingy May 27 #15

He moves a little slower and takes a little longer to put out his thoughts Quiet Em May 27 #17

Nothing wrong with that Fiendish Thingy May 27 #21

I'm not so sure he would have lost. soldierant May 27 #84

By June 2024, Biden was behind by double digits in every poll Fiendish Thingy May 27 #87

In 2016 Hillary was way ahead in the polls. soldierant May 27 #88

Like Clooney having a "Don't you know who I am!" Bettie May 27 #32

Oh, yeah, riiiight. themaguffin May 27 #57

There is a HUGE difference between not having what it takes for a successful campaign karynnj May 27 #64

The problem is, he had to be a successful candidate before he could be president again Fiendish Thingy May 27 #70

I get that and agree that he should have made the decision not to run earlier karynnj May 27 #91

And I remember when Hillary was dying because she collapsed during a 9/11 Memorial. W_HAMILTON May 27 #73

Many people have gone on the record Fiendish Thingy May 27 #76

I agree, you don't have to like the truth, but please stop denying it. W_HAMILTON May 27 #90

I know what my eyes saw and my ears heard Fiendish Thingy May 27 #94

lol, yes, those furthest away from him are the ones we should trust! W_HAMILTON May 27 #95

I think you are arguing with trolls at this point. Everyone with eyes and ears should come to their own Pisces May 28 #103

Trolls is too harsh and inaccurate of a descriptor Fiendish Thingy May 28 #112

If our side, which I consider more intelligent, more reasonable, and more realistic is having difficulty coming Pisces May 28 #114

Well, if SS or Medicare/medicaid collapses, denial will be impossible Fiendish Thingy May 28 #115

I agree with everything you said. I am sad it has come to this for him. I wish he had better advisors. Pisces May 28 #101

Agree on some and disagree on other points Cosmocat May 28 #110

Oh ffs themaguffin May 27 #54

We as Democrats and progressives had four years to stop Trump and MAGA. flashman13 May 27 #9

Nobody was denying that Biden was old. Tommy Carcetti May 27 #12

There is plenty of public evidence documenting Biden's decline in functioning Fiendish Thingy May 27 #16

Again, nothing beyond the usual for a person of that age. nt Tommy Carcetti May 27 #18

"For a person that age" Jose Garcia May 27 #20

Should I believe you, or my own eyes? Nt Fiendish Thingy May 27 #22

I'd probably rely on a medical report above all. Including your own eyes. Tommy Carcetti May 27 #42

Apparently there are several who are doctors SocialDemocrat61 May 27 #43

And yet, we all agree that Trump is cognitively impaired Fiendish Thingy May 27 #48

I can't say whether or not he is cognitively impaired. Tommy Carcetti May 27 #50

You haven't noticed a significant decline in Trump's speech? Fiendish Thingy May 27 #69

Perhaps but not to a degree of medical certainty. Tommy Carcetti May 27 #72

It's noticeable and measureable Fiendish Thingy May 27 #74

Which stage of grief is "belief in wild conspiracy theories"? WarGamer May 27 #59

One doesn't have to believe in "Wild conspiracy theories" to acknowledge Biden's decline. Fiendish Thingy May 27 #71

I actually meant it the other way around... WarGamer May 27 #75

I strongly agree with you Fiendish Thingy May 27 #77

It does seem to be a stage in all political losses in recent years fujiyamasan May 28 #117

This thread is depressing fujiyamasan May 27 #68

Joe Biden needed a personal trainer MacKasey May 27 #6

Proof is in the pudding. Biden did a great job. Trump is doing permanent damage to our country every day. Midnight Writer May 27 #7

By EVERY measure. calimary May 27 #33

Cover up shit. Joe Biden is one of the most honest people in politics. Walleye May 27 #10

He was an 81 year old man who talked and walked like the average 81 year old man would. Tommy Carcetti May 27 #11

Nothing was wrong mentally. He could still make rational decisions. maxsolomon May 27 #13

They're racists... ZDU May 27 #14

Excellent point and yes this moniss May 27 #19

"We finally beat Medicare!" Jose Garcia May 27 #24

He misspoke. That happens to everyone. Quiet Em May 27 #25

"Biden won the debate" Jose Garcia May 27 #31

To claim Biden won the debate is a gobsmacking denial of reality. Celerity May 28 #104

The biggest mistake was looking at the party's relatively strong midterm performance fujiyamasan May 28 #118

We lost the 2022 national House vote by around 3 million, and lost it by around 6 million if CA is removed. Celerity May 28 #120

"They're eating the dogs. They're eating the cats." thought crime May 28 #108

i think there is more et tu May 27 #27

OMG, that makes a scary amount of sense! ShazzieB May 27 #39

What was "wrong" with him was that he was 81 and showed it, Ocelot II May 27 #30

I recently watched former President Clinton give remarks at the 30th anniversary of the Oklahoma City bombing. Tommy Carcetti May 27 #45

The voice is one of the first things to go - it has to do with breathing support. Ocelot II May 27 #46

This isn't helping. Don't get mired in the past. Move on. Fight today's battles. Keep your eye on the ball. BurnDoubt May 27 #36

I think Biden would have beat trump a second time. The power of incumbency is huge. Blues Heron May 27 #38

There's a major river in Africa I'm thinking of...nt Dreamer Tatum May 27 #47

This is what I keep coming back to. If anything happens, the VP takes over. betsuni May 27 #51

A lot of people toting Tapper's water for him. Torchlight May 27 #52

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Paladin May 27 #53

The amazing thing is . . . peggysue2 May 27 #55

Also, Tapper thinks Jill Biden might've become so "enamored" of the fabulous First Lady Jackie O lifestyle that she betsuni May 27 #58

CNN showed their true colors. spanone May 27 #61

Damn straight. Yes, Biden has slowed down, and he did underperform in the last debate. But there is a word of difference Martin68 May 27 #63

I think either Biden or his staff pushed him to hard before the debate. I was worried about his performance doc03 May 27 #65

Well Stated, Em! Cha May 27 #66

I don't know if I'd say there was a cover up but there was definitely a refusal to address his biggest vulnerabilities. Self Esteem May 27 #67

Good recap fujiyamasan May 28 #105

Yes. Biden definitely aged a lot over the last eight years. Self Esteem May 28 #113

Agree 100% cate94 May 27 #78

Hey Jake, TAP THIS... Blue Owl May 27 #85

I suppose there's not a ton of harm in indulging fantasies like this, but the denial in this thread is really something. tritsofme May 27 #89

Yeah, a whole lot of gaslighting going on here. Ace Rothstein May 27 #92

really? North Coast Lawyer May 27 #93

BIDEN WORLD STRIKES BACK LetMyPeopleVote May 27 #96

Fmr DNC Chair Jaime Harrrison dubbed this book a A BOLD FACED LIE LetMyPeopleVote May 27 #97

And people wonder haydukelives May 27 #98

Part of establishing and legitimizing a dictatorship . . . Aussie105 May 28 #106

Indeed, and he had plenty of support. Patton French May 28 #107

Whether there was a cover-up or not it was pretty obvious to me Biden was not up doc03 May 28 #111

Maybe mass amnesia? MorbidButterflyTat May 28 #116

I didn't appreciate the condescending comments either. Quiet Em May 28 #119

Jake Tapper's book is bombing LetMyPeopleVote May 30 #121

tapper's tv ratings are also bombing LetMyPeopleVote Jun 1 #122