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Prairie Gates

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20. Why are you framing this so negatively?

Reply to TheProle (Original post)

Mon May 26, 2025, 05:49 PM

May 26

Don't you want Democratic messaging to get better with working class men? How do you suppose that happens?

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Democrats spending millions to learn how to speak to 'American Men' and win back the working class [View all] TheProle May 26 OP

lmaooooo what on earth WhiskeyGrinder May 26 #1

How about, hildegaard28 May 26 #2

+ 100!! CrispyQ May 26 #5

The big brains hildegaard28 May 26 #10

IMHO atreides1 May 28 #103

Ill throw one out: legalize a distinction between wages and income, Volaris May 27 #44

I don't think it's the economy. They have been trained to hate liberals and Democrats, travelingthrulife May 27 #59

Exactly Rebl2 May 28 #99

There's nothing wrong with Dems trying to plan a strategy senseandsensibility May 26 #3

Ahhhhh--More "Bad Things About Democrats". Kingofalldems May 26 #4

Oh those Democrats! Doing what people say they should, learn to speak to the working class. But ... but ... THE HOTEL. betsuni May 26 #29

Bad? Sound like they're researching what went wrong. WarGamer May 26 #36

Lost the WH, House, Senate, Judiciary GreatGazoo May 27 #68

Why is that a bad thing? Mountainguy May 26 #6

I am done with male victimhood Ritabert May 26 #7

I think the male bashing when male concerns are considered Alpeduez21 May 26 #21

I'm laughing....my wife said, "Why don't they just go to school walkingman May 26 #8

Or they could take a page from republican men kacekwl May 27 #54

it's my party........everybody sing along now. nt msongs May 26 #9

... Celerity May 26 #14

Judy;s gonna get what's coming to her.... nt msongs May 26 #16

DNC giving me a good reason to ignore donation appeals. nt delisen May 26 #11

I don't understand why people have a problem with this, republicans got in power because of stuff like this unblock May 26 #12

I think a lack of authenticity might be the problem LearnedHand May 26 #34

I think Democrats focus test too much AZProgressive May 26 #38

cringe level 7 Celerity May 26 #13

Not taking the bait on every single culture war issue the GOP conjures up costs nothing. BannonsLiver May 26 #15

"donors and strategists holing up in luxury hotel rooms" Retrograde May 26 #17

It's the "cost" that bothers me most. lees1975 May 26 #18

The only issue I see here is the "luxury hotel room" thing jmowreader May 26 #19

Why are you framing this so negatively? Prairie Gates May 26 #20

I posted the title and 4 paragraphs verbatim TheProle May 26 #24

How do you make a stupid idea look better? leftstreet May 26 #28

According to YouGov it was 19 million womanofthehills May 26 #32

Maybe what YouGov meant was that 19 million eligible voters didn't turn out? CrispyQ May 27 #58

believe me, repuke elites have these same sorts of events cadoman May 26 #26

Young men feel like they have lost their power Tree Lady May 26 #22

That's a lot of kids right now womanofthehills May 26 #33

I think part of it is giving too much to the kids Tree Lady May 26 #37

I don't know how young people afford to buy a house today, CrispyQ May 27 #63

My daughter 46 making over 200k Tree Lady May 27 #74

Social media has convinced too many that they can make tons of money online or in some get rich scheme tulipsandroses May 27 #78

Exactly this is the issue with my grandson Tree Lady May 27 #84

all they need to do is use simpler language, more baby talk, a lot of googoo, gaagaa and maybe they can get through to ImNotGod May 26 #23

Unfortunately, what it takes to "please" the portion of men Bettie May 26 #25

Let me guess - they are using the very same strategists who put the party in this position to try to get us out of it. Midwestern Democrat May 26 #27

Bingo n/t Sympthsical May 26 #40

Kind of like "our big brain is gonna get us out of this mess that our big brain got us in." CrispyQ May 27 #65

Does that mean I have to grunt and scratch my crotch? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 26 #30

Well, one just needs read most of the responses in this thread and it is understood that men are not welcome here Alpeduez21 May 26 #31

What would you, personally, like to hear from the party? WhiskeyGrinder May 27 #55

Some of what I'd like to hear we cant discuss here. Callie1979 May 28 #101

You are correct RJ-MacReady May 27 #73

Many think the podcasts won the election. womanofthehills May 26 #35

That makes sense to me, especially in light of the recent study that men, especially young men, don't read much anymore. CrispyQ May 27 #66

What a waste of money JI7 May 26 #39

Is this a job creation program? jalan48 May 26 #41

So I guess this means that minorities will be thrown under the bus? DSandra May 26 #42

Why does it have to be either or? RJ-MacReady May 27 #76

Maybe instead of blowing millions of dollars MorbidButterflyTat May 27 #43

DU may ridicule, but I agree with the findings. Wanderlust988 May 27 #45

I'm pretty sure few Democrats use those terms. Anybody know? I remember AOC defending "Latinx": betsuni May 27 #46

Elizabeth Warren Shrek May 27 #53

This doesn't help RJ-MacReady May 28 #100

According to Pew pattyloutwo May 27 #57

The biggest mistake Democrats have made is failing to tell people when they've done something good. Vinca May 27 #47

That says more about young people that it does the party. walkingman May 27 #51

I suspect that SS and Medicare rank really low on the list of what your average 25 yr old is concerned about MichMan May 28 #105

I just gave that as an example because they're among the biggest and most successful programs. What would a 25 Vinca May 28 #110

Why we'll keep right on losing. Passages May 27 #48

In my view we need a strategy that will answer 2 questions. Prairie_Seagull May 27 #49

Two parties and both have lost their way. nt Autumn May 27 #50

I have a better idea gab13by13 May 27 #52

Actually all they needed to do was undo Reagan's actions. Blue Full Moon May 27 #56

Women make up nearly half of the working class. Quiet Em May 27 #60

We need new leaders that don't come across as wimps. It doesn't matter how stupid you doc03 May 27 #61

Obama was pretty good at reaching young men: a dynamic messenger promoting "hope and change" andym May 27 #62

Bernie just showed how to do it. Save your millions. thought crime May 27 #64

We're losing the culture war Sympthsical May 27 #67

Interesting EarlG May 27 #71

I feared this would be more or less the shape of the response Sympthsical May 27 #72

No need for a straw man EarlG May 27 #75

Keeping it very simple - a question Sympthsical May 27 #79

So much crap you've said... Brenda May 27 #87

Have you seen some of our national rhetoric towards Latinos? Sympthsical May 27 #90

This message was self-deleted by its author Brenda May 27 #91

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You asked me a direct question EarlG May 27 #93

I actually agree with much you say here Sympthsical May 28 #102

Hostility towards males here? Brenda May 28 #108

No, I got it Sympthsical May 28 #109

Sorry for the late reply EarlG May 30 #112

Sorry, this got lost in the shuffle and just saw it Sympthsical Monday #113

I completely agree with this and your later post as well. Abolishinist May 27 #77

This is the part i ageee with: "ever-changing list of cultural offenses people must be persecuted for committing" LearnedHand May 27 #81

Well said. Littlered May 27 #82

The odd thing is, I don't think this moralizing tone fujiyamasan May 27 #86

Thanks for these posts. BluesRunTheGame May 27 #95

Agreed. I came of age politically in the 1980s and being a liberal minded young man inclined towards intellectualism Midwestern Democrat May 28 #97

NAFTA was, in my opinion, a HUGE political blunder. BluesRunTheGame May 28 #98

It made me glad. LAS14 May 27 #69

I'm so tired of Democrats blaming voters for our electoral failures biocube May 27 #70

Hard to do when the infinite dark money ads define you. BlueTsunami2018 May 27 #80

Are they taking Faux pas May 27 #83

They Couldn't Have Rented... ProfessorGAC May 27 #85

We need to reach young men too. Initech May 27 #88

That's the biggest pile of horseshit I have seen in some time... kentuck May 27 #92

Working class young men are pretty much like foreign people. kerry-is-my-prez May 27 #94

Once again these "consultants" fujiyamasan May 28 #96

The Dems must learn to jerk off a mic. Clouds Passing May 28 #104

Here's the answer: lots of Democratic men are racist and sexist. That's why they Scrivener7 May 28 #106

Save money, just listen to Trump's rally speeches Deminpenn May 28 #107

The solution: "holing up in luxury hotel rooms" is the problem. usonian May 28 #111

Doing yard maintenance Tree Lady Monday #114