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104. I'm not sure complacency is this issue

Thu May 22, 2025, 09:10 AM

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It seems more like apathy, cynicism or just plain exhaustion. Perhaps disillusionment is the more accurate word.

Right now, there are a significant number of voters who feel neither party cares about them and their needs, and won’t fight for what is important to them. They aren’t seeking to impose a purity test, they just want evidence of fierce resistance, obstruction even, to Trump’s tyranny.

Instead, we see some Dems voting to confirm Trump’s cabinet nominees, supporting crypto deregulation, etc. Those Dems who do show that fierceness voters want are often shunted aside by the party power structure.

So, I’m not sure voter complacency is the problem.

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Democrats Are Losing Young People [View all] applegrove May 21 OP

It's the social media JBTaurus83 May 21 #1

Yes. It is also financial anxiety. Regression analysis applegrove May 21 #4

Right. H2O Man May 21 #49

Oh social media is a big part of it. Particularly right applegrove May 21 #52

Respectfully disagree. H2O Man May 21 #57

Social media is a huge part of the manipulation of the applegrove May 21 #59

Interesting. H2O Man May 21 #62

Young people were texted anti-trans stuff. Even on DU applegrove May 21 #66

Right. H2O Man May 21 #81

What a bunch of bullshit! RB77 May 21 #79

Read this. applegrove May 21 #80

Young people? thought crime May 21 #90

Dems are poor at media, online or not. Tetrachloride May 21 #61

Entirely. Social media will end up as the weapon that destroyed this nation misanthrope May 21 #64

No, it is not. vanessa_ca May 21 #65

You speak LOUDLY for me LearnedHand May 21 #69

Thank you. vanessa_ca May 21 #76

Unfortunately, mostly due to historic oppression, black men are particularly susceptible to the manly-man appeal. . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 21 #2

Yes that too. Euphemisms for submissiveness in women applegrove May 21 #5

Huh? TnDem May 21 #6

Financial anxiety makes people vote with passion rather than reason. applegrove May 21 #18

I am thinking of 1947 Bernardo de La Paz May 21 #22

No TnDem May 21 #24

Indeed they are traits of SOME men and it cuts across racial lines. You miss the point and the history Bernardo de La Paz May 21 #34

re" "the point" TnDem May 21 #44

Simple answers go nowhere. My post goes deeper. Your post begs the question. Bernardo de La Paz May 21 #46

Actually, what your post does TnDem May 21 #48

Again you beg the question. Why don't they respect, don't like? are the real questions Bernardo de La Paz May 21 #55

Testosterone has no monopoly on logic. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 21 #23

Dems lost 10% of young black voters under 30 and 16% applegrove May 21 #41

They voted for Gallego JI7 May 21 #56

Most black men still voted for Kamala Harris JI7 May 21 #10

the problem is we depend on the Black and LatinX communitites to cover the failure of white communities cadoman May 21 #63

Thank you. I'm so sick of this shit. Black men got nothing to do with this shit. Trump is a white people's problem. Solomon Thursday #101

The appeal is to B.See May 21 #40

Yes, the campaign made it a broad appeal, their mindset is not really manly, and they are whiny and unqualified. . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 21 #42

Well, qualified to be B.See May 21 #54

Many of those young voters aren't switching to the republicans Fiendish Thingy May 21 #3

Right VanceFan May 21 #8

With catastrophic climate change coming, there is no hope Kaleva May 21 #15

They have just succeeded in a self-fulfilling prophecy. Congratulations to them. JohnSJ May 21 #16

What are their values ? And many of these men DID vote for Trump JI7 May 21 #11

And Harris got 4% less of the female vote than Biden did in 2020. elocs May 21 #12

We can't RJ-MacReady May 21 #29

And it will only get worse as blue states may lose 10 or more electoral votes elocs Thursday #97

Although there were 12 million more eligible voters in 2024 Fiendish Thingy May 21 #36

Yes, and that's sad. We have too many complacent, non-voters elocs Thursday #96

I'm not sure complacency is this issue Fiendish Thingy Thursday #104

Complacent in the sense that why weren't women fired up to elect Harris? elocs Thursday #108

Also - they see all our money going to war womanofthehills May 21 #67

An ossified leadership with no new ideas or policies would do this uponit7771 May 21 #7

What new ideas or policies do they want ? JI7 May 21 #13

Most of them did not vote for Trump, they stayed home. Nt Fiendish Thingy May 21 #37

If they didn't vote when there was a clear difference JI7 May 21 #50

Claiming to know with certainty the reason young people stayed home is part of the problem Fiendish Thingy May 21 #68

One of the reasons was clearly that they were ok with Trump JI7 May 21 #72

Clearly? Fiendish Thingy May 21 #75

No, the civil rights movement and what they boycotted JI7 May 21 #84

Those "shit people" are the largest untapped pool of voters in the country Fiendish Thingy May 21 #89

They are shit people that want their ass kissed JI7 Thursday #94

Dems are almost certain to retake the house in a blue wave in the 2026 midterms Fiendish Thingy Thursday #103

I didn't disparage young voters. My comments are about all people JI7 Thursday #105

Young people who didn't vote are the largest untapped pool of voters in the nation Fiendish Thingy Thursday #107

That's never going to happen JI7 Thursday #109

After the revolution everything will be nice, everyone young forever and dominating elections for generations. betsuni Thursday #110

The threat of losing all their rights with a Trump victory wasn't enough to motivate them Kaleva May 21 #17

Correct because people don't understand dictatorships in the US, no perspective uponit7771 May 21 #85

From the 2024 election. HOW DO THEY FEEL NOW? hlthe2b May 21 #9

If they are that stupid, which based on this OP they seem to be, then they have no one to blame for the JohnSJ May 21 #14

Curious. Do you converse with younger generations? cachukis May 21 #38

Yes, I sure do, and they can't be all painted with one brush either, because they don't all speak with the same JohnSJ May 21 #45

No question. cachukis May 21 #71

Very impressive cachukis. JohnSJ May 21 #74

Joe Rogan and they watch Fox News. It's young white men. kerry-is-my-prez May 21 #19

It's not just white men but yes the reason is the same. And they are becoming religious also JI7 May 21 #20

I was a social worker who worked with almost all women. kerry-is-my-prez May 21 #26

Most young people do not True Blue American May 21 #27

young people don't watch TV news to begin with pstokely Thursday #106

It's because the Dems aren't fighting the GOP synni May 21 #21

It has nothing to do with this. JI7 May 21 #28

I agree. It never is that straight forward. JohnSJ May 21 #47

It's because of widespread propaganda. A small group is angry at the Dems for not speaking out enough. kerry-is-my-prez May 21 #31

I don't think it's young people Tree Lady May 21 #25

Part the 100th Redleg May 21 #30

So we should ignore changes in how people vote? That makes applegrove May 21 #43

I did not say that. Redleg Friday #111

Wasn't the total vote total several million less than doc03 May 21 #32

I need to see a trend D_Master81 May 21 #33

I think you are underestimating the damage that has been done, and will be done in the next 4 years. The JohnSJ May 21 #51

Whenever they do these comparisons, they ignore karynnj May 21 #35

Sanders has led them to believe that Democrats are just as bad as Republicans and everyone needs to... W_HAMILTON May 21 #39

it is damning all of us. That type of thinking has brought us to where we are today. JohnSJ May 21 #53

TY. Exactly, John... We were There and saw Cha May 21 #78

Done. We are definitely on the same page Cha. JohnSJ May 21 #83

The damage and polarization will last for a long time. betsuni May 21 #58

Does Sanders ever hold those rallies in his own state ? JI7 May 21 #73

Message auto-removed Name removed Friday #112

The problem isn't with young people, per se. Basso8vb May 21 #60

All two parties are losing young people. DJ Synikus Makisimus May 21 #70

Well Then.. the "young Voters".. are in Danger Cha May 21 #77

You are so right Cha. They messed up in a big way, but I guess they can put those tiny screws in Apple Iphones JohnSJ May 21 #82

Aloha Join, sorry I Cha May 21 #87

No problem Cha. We are on the same page. JohnSJ May 21 #91

Thanks, John... They're trying to Destroy America. . Cha May 21 #92

I don't like being too pessimistic, but what happened was a perfect storm against Democracy, and I think JohnSJ Thursday #93

I don't like it, either... always looking for Cha Thursday #95

Technocracy won't cut it. David__77 May 21 #86

3 democratic congressmen died in office so far this year Terry_M May 21 #88

Do you think congresspeople are anointed rather than voted in by their constituents? W_HAMILTON Friday #113

Thanks for the opening. Terry_M Friday #114

"They come in via primaries that are handled by the super engaged tiny minority" W_HAMILTON Friday #115

Yes. Their fault, absolutely Terry_M Friday #116

Older people too. nt RandiFan1290 Thursday #98

Losing young people was an own goal for the Democrats AZProgressive Thursday #99

No, people are losing Democrats and gaining Republicans. I'm sure they'll be very happy together. betsuni Thursday #100

Corporatists vs fascists Johnny2X2X Thursday #102