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vanessa_ca

(158 posts)
65. No, it is not.
Wed May 21, 2025, 07:36 PM
Wednesday

Speaking for myself and many in my young circle, we were and still are not impressed with the party's insistence on sticking to its tepid, lukewarm, corporate course. Many are turned off by the centrist wing that bashes Bernie Sanders and other progressives and keeps yelling at us to shut up and get off their lawn. Oh, but when it's time for the midterms and the general election, that same centrist wing expects more progressive younger voters to keep shutting up, hold our nose and fall in line voting for the same lukewarm soup.

We see what's going on. And to be blunt, the Democratic Party is too supportive of Israel's crimes against the Palestinians. There are some lines many will not cross. Methinks the days of dictating what people should think, say and vote for are over. Politicians need to start representing us for a change. We made it loud and clear that Bernie did and still does, but the party refuses to budge. David Hogg comes to mind too.

Speaking for my circle, social media had nothing to do with it. The DU/KOS bubble is no more representative of the streets than the politicians hanging on to their sinecures.

More introspection is in order. It's a cop out to blame it on social media.

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Democrats Are Losing Young People [View all] applegrove Wednesday OP
It's the social media JBTaurus83 Wednesday #1
Yes. It is also financial anxiety. Regression analysis applegrove Wednesday #4
Right. H2O Man Wednesday #49
Oh social media is a big part of it. Particularly right applegrove Wednesday #52
Respectfully disagree. H2O Man Wednesday #57
Social media is a huge part of the manipulation of the applegrove Wednesday #59
Interesting. H2O Man Wednesday #62
Young people were texted anti-trans stuff. Even on DU applegrove Wednesday #66
Right. H2O Man Wednesday #81
What a bunch of bullshit! RB77 Wednesday #79
Read this. applegrove Wednesday #80
Young people? thought crime Wednesday #90
Dems are poor at media, online or not. Tetrachloride Wednesday #61
Entirely. Social media will end up as the weapon that destroyed this nation misanthrope Wednesday #64
No, it is not. vanessa_ca Wednesday #65
You speak LOUDLY for me LearnedHand Wednesday #69
Thank you. vanessa_ca Wednesday #76
Unfortunately, mostly due to historic oppression, black men are particularly susceptible to the manly-man appeal. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Wednesday #2
Yes that too. Euphemisms for submissiveness in women applegrove Wednesday #5
Huh? TnDem Wednesday #6
Financial anxiety makes people vote with passion rather than reason. applegrove Wednesday #18
I am thinking of 1947 Bernardo de La Paz Wednesday #22
No TnDem Wednesday #24
Indeed they are traits of SOME men and it cuts across racial lines. You miss the point and the history Bernardo de La Paz Wednesday #34
re" "the point" TnDem Wednesday #44
Simple answers go nowhere. My post goes deeper. Your post begs the question. Bernardo de La Paz Wednesday #46
Actually, what your post does TnDem Wednesday #48
Again you beg the question. Why don't they respect, don't like? are the real questions Bernardo de La Paz Wednesday #55
Testosterone has no monopoly on logic. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Wednesday #23
Dems lost 10% of young black voters under 30 and 16% applegrove Wednesday #41
They voted for Gallego JI7 Wednesday #56
Most black men still voted for Kamala Harris JI7 Wednesday #10
the problem is we depend on the Black and LatinX communitites to cover the failure of white communities cadoman Wednesday #63
Thank you. I'm so sick of this shit. Black men got nothing to do with this shit. Trump is a white people's problem. Solomon Thursday #101
The appeal is to B.See Wednesday #40
Yes, the campaign made it a broad appeal, their mindset is not really manly, and they are whiny and unqualified. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Wednesday #42
Well, qualified to be B.See Wednesday #54
Many of those young voters aren't switching to the republicans Fiendish Thingy Wednesday #3
Right VanceFan Wednesday #8
With catastrophic climate change coming, there is no hope Kaleva Wednesday #15
They have just succeeded in a self-fulfilling prophecy. Congratulations to them. JohnSJ Wednesday #16
What are their values ? And many of these men DID vote for Trump JI7 Wednesday #11
And Harris got 4% less of the female vote than Biden did in 2020. elocs Wednesday #12
We can't RJ-MacReady Wednesday #29
And it will only get worse as blue states may lose 10 or more electoral votes elocs Thursday #97
Although there were 12 million more eligible voters in 2024 Fiendish Thingy Wednesday #36
Yes, and that's sad. We have too many complacent, non-voters elocs Thursday #96
I'm not sure complacency is this issue Fiendish Thingy Thursday #104
Complacent in the sense that why weren't women fired up to elect Harris? elocs Thursday #108
Also - they see all our money going to war womanofthehills Wednesday #67
An ossified leadership with no new ideas or policies would do this uponit7771 Wednesday #7
What new ideas or policies do they want ? JI7 Wednesday #13
Most of them did not vote for Trump, they stayed home. Nt Fiendish Thingy Wednesday #37
If they didn't vote when there was a clear difference JI7 Wednesday #50
Claiming to know with certainty the reason young people stayed home is part of the problem Fiendish Thingy Wednesday #68
One of the reasons was clearly that they were ok with Trump JI7 Wednesday #72
Clearly? Fiendish Thingy Wednesday #75
No, the civil rights movement and what they boycotted JI7 Wednesday #84
Those "shit people" are the largest untapped pool of voters in the country Fiendish Thingy Wednesday #89
They are shit people that want their ass kissed JI7 Thursday #94
Dems are almost certain to retake the house in a blue wave in the 2026 midterms Fiendish Thingy Thursday #103
I didn't disparage young voters. My comments are about all people JI7 Thursday #105
Young people who didn't vote are the largest untapped pool of voters in the nation Fiendish Thingy Thursday #107
That's never going to happen JI7 Thursday #109
After the revolution everything will be nice, everyone young forever and dominating elections for generations. betsuni Thursday #110
The threat of losing all their rights with a Trump victory wasn't enough to motivate them Kaleva Wednesday #17
Correct because people don't understand dictatorships in the US, no perspective uponit7771 Wednesday #85
From the 2024 election. HOW DO THEY FEEL NOW? hlthe2b Wednesday #9
If they are that stupid, which based on this OP they seem to be, then they have no one to blame for the JohnSJ Wednesday #14
Curious. Do you converse with younger generations? cachukis Wednesday #38
Yes, I sure do, and they can't be all painted with one brush either, because they don't all speak with the same JohnSJ Wednesday #45
No question. cachukis Wednesday #71
Very impressive cachukis. JohnSJ Wednesday #74
Joe Rogan and they watch Fox News. It's young white men. kerry-is-my-prez Wednesday #19
It's not just white men but yes the reason is the same. And they are becoming religious also JI7 Wednesday #20
I was a social worker who worked with almost all women. kerry-is-my-prez Wednesday #26
Most young people do not True Blue American Wednesday #27
young people don't watch TV news to begin with pstokely Thursday #106
It's because the Dems aren't fighting the GOP synni Wednesday #21
It has nothing to do with this. JI7 Wednesday #28
I agree. It never is that straight forward. JohnSJ Wednesday #47
It's because of widespread propaganda. A small group is angry at the Dems for not speaking out enough. kerry-is-my-prez Wednesday #31
I don't think it's young people Tree Lady Wednesday #25
Part the 100th Redleg Wednesday #30
So we should ignore changes in how people vote? That makes applegrove Wednesday #43
I did not say that. Redleg Friday #111
Wasn't the total vote total several million less than doc03 Wednesday #32
I need to see a trend D_Master81 Wednesday #33
I think you are underestimating the damage that has been done, and will be done in the next 4 years. The JohnSJ Wednesday #51
Whenever they do these comparisons, they ignore karynnj Wednesday #35
Sanders has led them to believe that Democrats are just as bad as Republicans and everyone needs to... W_HAMILTON Wednesday #39
it is damning all of us. That type of thinking has brought us to where we are today. JohnSJ Wednesday #53
TY. Exactly, John... We were There and saw Cha Wednesday #78
Done. We are definitely on the same page Cha. JohnSJ Wednesday #83
The damage and polarization will last for a long time. betsuni Wednesday #58
Does Sanders ever hold those rallies in his own state ? JI7 Wednesday #73
Message auto-removed Name removed Friday #112
The problem isn't with young people, per se. Basso8vb Wednesday #60
All two parties are losing young people. DJ Synikus Makisimus Wednesday #70
Well Then.. the "young Voters".. are in Danger Cha Wednesday #77
You are so right Cha. They messed up in a big way, but I guess they can put those tiny screws in Apple Iphones JohnSJ Wednesday #82
Aloha Join, sorry I Cha Wednesday #87
No problem Cha. We are on the same page. JohnSJ Wednesday #91
Thanks, John... They're trying to Destroy America. . Cha Wednesday #92
I don't like being too pessimistic, but what happened was a perfect storm against Democracy, and I think JohnSJ Thursday #93
I don't like it, either... always looking for Cha Thursday #95
Technocracy won't cut it. David__77 Wednesday #86
3 democratic congressmen died in office so far this year Terry_M Wednesday #88
Do you think congresspeople are anointed rather than voted in by their constituents? W_HAMILTON Friday #113
Thanks for the opening. Terry_M Friday #114
"They come in via primaries that are handled by the super engaged tiny minority" W_HAMILTON Friday #115
Yes. Their fault, absolutely Terry_M Friday #116
Older people too. nt RandiFan1290 Thursday #98
Losing young people was an own goal for the Democrats AZProgressive Thursday #99
No, people are losing Democrats and gaining Republicans. I'm sure they'll be very happy together. betsuni Thursday #100
Corporatists vs fascists Johnny2X2X Thursday #102
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