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Beastly Boy

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31. Nice, I could't have asked for a better illustration of grossly misinformed anti-Israel bias.
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 03:44 PM
Apr 3

It is not possible, if you know anything about Israel, to support and defend everything Israel does.

For example, I cannot possibly support and defend both the Netanyahu government and the tens of thousands of Israelis demonstrating daily against it.

I cannot possibly support and defend both the secular Zionists and religious anti-Zionists.

I cannot possibly support and defend both the rule of law and the judicial reform in Israel.

It is only when one completely, ignorantly and deliberately disregards the incredible diversity of Israel that one can speak of Israel as if it were a comic strip villain. It is only when one strips Israel of all but the worst negative stereotyping that one can so categorically villainize Israel.

It is only when one normalizes this negative stereotyping to the point where it becomes a collection of cartoonish memes that are taken for granted and are by default presumed to be immune from scrutiny, a practice that I find despicable (you don't have to find it despicable to validate my choices), that I step in and challenge the validity of such narratives.

This is "my side". It is so far removed from supporting anything and everything Israel does, so far removed from what you imagine "my side" to be, that I have no words or the time to address the chasm between what it is and what you think it is. Nor am I inclined to get defensive over your accusations.

Performative outrage" is a more polite version of the term "outrage porn", a phenomenon that is well defined and studied (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outrage_porn). It is obvious that I am neither the creator of outrage porn nor its consumer or connoisseur. On the contrary, I push back on it every chance I get.

If one wants to look further into what outrage porn is and is not, all one has to do is examine how statements that presume sympathy from billions of people "on one's side" relate to the mechanics of outrage porn.



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Post removed Post removed Apr 2 #1
Explain Mossfern Apr 2 #2
shocked. OilemFirchen Apr 2 #3
Gee, what a surprise mcar Apr 2 #4
HonestReporting is an advocacy group, not a journalistic or reporting group, fwiw. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2 #5
It's also a promoter of nationalistic propaganda. Violet_Crumble Apr 2 #9
I believe the point of the OP is that Hamas has no credibility, not Hamas suddenly becoming credible. Beastly Boy Apr 3 #11
If you read what I posted.. Violet_Crumble Apr 3 #13
Neither was I, if you read what I posted. Beastly Boy Apr 3 #15
I read and comprehended yr post. Violet_Crumble Apr 3 #24
I will certainly respond accordingly the minute I see a genuine effort to have a constructive discussion. Beastly Boy Apr 3 #25
Enjoy! AloeVera Apr 3 #29
Well, well, well, would you look at that. sheshe2 Apr 2 #6
50,021 deaths happened. Plus 14,000 under rubble. AloeVera Apr 2 #10
Not even Hamas is taking the numbers you are using seriously anymore. Beastly Boy Apr 3 #12
For those who can't feel the deaths of innocents AloeVera Apr 3 #14
You must have misunderstood what I posted. Beastly Boy Apr 3 #18
You make no secret of your side lol. AloeVera Apr 3 #20
Nice, I could't have asked for a better illustration of grossly misinformed anti-Israel bias. Beastly Boy Apr 3 #31
I have been critical of Israel's conduct of the war. Bears no relation to Israel as a society. AloeVera Apr 3 #35
Coulda fooled me! Beastly Boy Apr 3 #40
All the more reason to believe my outrage and anger are real and not "performative" - no? AloeVera Apr 3 #43
No. In fact, your post explicitly confirms the bias in your outrage and its disingenuous nature. Beastly Boy Apr 4 #44
Lol. You are quite amusing, I've decided. AloeVera Apr 4 #45
In deference to the DU terms of service. You know what this means, don't you? Beastly Boy Apr 4 #46
Have a nice day Beastly Boy. AloeVera Apr 4 #47
Thank you. I will. Beastly Boy Apr 4 #48
Those who ForgedCrank Apr 3 #30
It's weird. sheshe2 Apr 3 #22
The 50K+ dead is still true. Verified and ID'd and formally reported. AloeVera Apr 3 #28
Indeed, She Hekate Apr 3 #16
Really? I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell to you. iemanja Apr 2 #7
Does your bridge confirm or deny the credibility of Hamas' numbers? Beastly Boy Apr 3 #19
Poor Lying Hamas Butchers. They can Fry in Hell. Cha Apr 2 #8
Indeed, Cha Hekate Apr 3 #17
Yes We Shall, Hekate.. on all Cha Apr 3 #21
I wonder... AloeVera Apr 3 #23
Good question. If you can't confirm or deny what Hamas is reporting at any given moment, Beastly Boy Apr 3 #32
It's not Hamas that categorized them as "men". AloeVera Apr 3 #37
You don't say! Beastly Boy Apr 3 #39
Of course "men" are categorized by Hamas. AloeVera Apr 3 #41
Right atreides1 Apr 3 #26
No, we just have one more reason to disbelieve Hamas. Beastly Boy Apr 3 #34
Freedom fighters do not lie. nt LexVegas Apr 3 #27
Not unusual for them. betsuni Apr 3 #33
Where are those numbers? They don't agree with the UN numbers muriel_volestrangler Apr 3 #36
Will "Honest Reporting" do that? AloeVera Apr 3 #38
Naturally. And I have my doubts if that is accurate. The civilian death toll is likely much less. Oopsie Daisy Apr 3 #42
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