Ghislaine TRAPS Trump with DESPICABLE PLEA PLOT - Legal AF

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Attorneys Brian Kabateck and Shant Karnikian break down convicted sex trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell's closed-door deposition before the House Oversight Committee, where she invoked the Fifth Amendment over a dozen times and refused to answer any questions about her crimes with Jeffrey Epstein or his co-conspirators.

The hosts explain the legal tools Congress has to compel testimony — use immunity, which prevents her words from being used against her but allows prosecution based on other evidence, and the broader transactional immunity, which shields her from prosecution entirely for the conduct she describes. They note that a presidential pardon would function as the equivalent of transactional immunity, and Maxwell's attorney made the quid pro quo explicit: she'll testify that "both President Trump and President Clinton are innocent of any wrongdoing" if Trump grants her clemency.

The attorneys argue this creates a credibility crisis either way — Maxwell is self-interested and angling for freedom, while Trump has a personal stake in what she says — making anything she testifies to inherently unreliable regardless of which side benefits. - 02/12/2026.