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Rhiannon12866

(235,123 posts)
Wed May 28, 2025, 11:53 PM Wednesday

Lawrence: 'Worldwide humiliation' for Trump as court rules his tariff 'madness' is unconstitutional - The Last Word MSNBC



MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell explains how a new ruling from the Court of International Trade proves “Donald Trump's attempt to use our international trade balance of payments with countries around the world as a reason for a president to impose tariffs is illegal and unconstitutional.” - Aired on 05/28/2025.
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Deuxcents

(22,390 posts)
1. Soundly put to rest. We are slowly but surely getting back to sanity again on some of these issues
Thu May 29, 2025, 12:17 AM
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Rhiannon12866

(235,123 posts)
2. I do wish that this decision came sooner, to avoid the controversy, but actually it came just in time. Whew!
Thu May 29, 2025, 12:22 AM
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Deuxcents

(22,390 posts)
3. Patience is needed with the court system but I'm with you..I wish it worked sooner than it does
Thu May 29, 2025, 12:25 AM
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scipan

(2,810 posts)
5. doj filed a Notice of Appeal tonight
Thu May 29, 2025, 01:01 AM
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Not a lawyer, and Lawrence is, but I still want to wait and see what happens tomorrow. He did use the word "exclusive" when talking about the powers of this court.

pat_k

(11,232 posts)
7. FYI on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit
Thu May 29, 2025, 01:37 AM
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Last edited Thu May 29, 2025, 02:57 AM - Edit history (1)

AI Overview

Subject Matter Jurisdiction:
The Federal Circuit has nationwide jurisdiction over certain types of appeals, including those from the U.S. Court of International Trade.

Specialized Jurisdiction:
The Federal Circuit is unique because its jurisdiction is based on the subject matter of the case, rather than geography.

Appeals from the U.S. Court of International Trade:
The Federal Circuit hears appeals from final decisions of the U.S. Court of International Trade.


FWIW, there are no Trump appointees on this court

Kimberly A. Moore, Chief Circuit Judge (Reagan)
Pauline Newman, Circuit Judge (Reagan)
Haldane Robert Mayer, Circuit Judge (Reagan)
S. Jay Plager, Circuit Judge (H.W. Bush)
Alan D. Lourie, Circuit Judge (H.W. Bush)
Raymond C. Clevenger, III, Circuit Judge (H.W. Bush)
Alvin A. Schall, Circuit Judge (H.W. Bush)
William C. Bryson, Circuit Judge (Clinton)
Richard Linn, Circuit Judge (Clinton)
Timothy B. Dyk, Circuit Judge (Clinton)
Sharon Prost, Circuit Judge (G.W. Bush)
Jimmie V. Reyna, Circuit Judge (Obama)
Evan J. Wallach, Circuit Judge (Obama)
Richard G. Taranto, Circuit Judge (Obama)
Raymond T. Chen, Circuit Judge (Obama)
Todd M. Hughes, Circuit Judge (Obama)
Kara F. Stoll, Circuit Judge (Obama)
Tiffany P. Cunningham, Circuit Judge (Biden)
Leonard P. Stark, Circuit Judge (Biden)

As per a VOX article:
These higher courts could potentially reveal fairly soon whether they think the tariffs are legal. In an order accompanying the trade court’s decision, the court announces that “within 10 calendar days necessary administrative orders to effectuate the permanent injunction shall issue.” So, if no higher court steps in, Trump’s tariffs will cease to exist very soon.


The 47 regime will undoubtedly try to jump over the Federal Circuit and go straight to SCOTUS with an emergency appeal. I don't know if they will get away with it. Stay tuned.

SunSeeker

(55,879 posts)
8. Leonard Leo hates tariffs, and the SCOTUS 6 owe their positions to Leo.
Thu May 29, 2025, 02:43 AM
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So there is hope they will do the right thing even if they do it for the wrong reasons.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/07/trump-tariffs-lawsuit

Rhiannon12866

(235,123 posts)
11. Didn't TFG sue Lawrence once??
Thu May 29, 2025, 08:12 AM
Thursday

That's his solution for everything, have somebody else take care of it...

And I sure agree, even though this news just broke, Lawrence was brilliant, handled it eloquently - as usual!

ancianita

(40,516 posts)
13. He threatened a suit in 2019 unless Lawrence retracted and apologized, which he did. But Lawrence learned.
Thu May 29, 2025, 02:01 PM
Thursday

Now he relentlessly attacks the felon's stupidity over economic policies and violations of the Constitution.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/donald-trump-sends-legal-demand-comment-msnbcs-lawrence-o-donnell-1235171/

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