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Wed Oct 22, 2025, 06:43 AM Wednesday

Wednesday advisories on Melissa

https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCPAT3+shtml/220854.shtml

Tropical Storm Melissa Advisory Number 4
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL132025
500 AM EDT Wed Oct 22 2025

...MELISSA RE-FORMS TO THE NORTHEAST...
...HEAVY RAINFALL AND FLOODING EXPECTED OVER PORTIONS OF HISPANIOLA
AND JAMAICA...


SUMMARY OF 500 AM EDT...0900 UTC...INFORMATION
----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...14.3N 73.5W
ABOUT 305 MI...495 KM SSW OF PORT AU PRINCE HAITI
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...50 MPH...85 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...WNW OR 295 DEGREES AT 7 MPH...11 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1000 MB...29.53 INCHES


WATCHES AND WARNINGS
--------------------
CHANGES WITH THIS ADVISORY:

None.

SUMMARY OF WATCHES AND WARNINGS IN EFFECT:

A Hurricane Watch is in effect for...
* Southwestern peninsula of Haiti from the border with the
Dominican Republic to Port-Au-Prince

A Tropical Storm Watch is in effect for...
* Jamaica
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Wednesday advisories on Melissa (Original Post) nitpicked Wednesday OP
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8 am update nitpicked Wednesday #3
11 am edt (not much change) nitpicked Wednesday #4
2 pm edt (no real change) nitpicked Wednesday #5
5 pm edt (almost stationary) nitpicked Wednesday #6
(FWIW) the 5 pm NHC discussion (bolding mine) nitpicked Wednesday #7
8 pm edt (even slower) nitpicked Wednesday #8

nitpicked

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1. and the discussion
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 06:45 AM
Wednesday
https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCDAT3+shtml/220859.shtml

Tropical Storm Melissa Discussion Number 4
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL132025
500 AM EDT Wed Oct 22 2025

Data from an Air Force Reserve Hurricane Hunter aircraft has been
extremely useful in showing that the center of Melissa has
re-formed to the northeast of the previous center. Earlier
scatterometer data had already shown an elongated circulation, and
the very deep convection combined with the moderate westerly shear
has caused the re-formation. The initial intensity is kept at 45
kt, a compromise between somewhat lower aircraft winds but also
lower central pressure, now at 1000 mb.

The initial motion is estimated, with low confidence, to be 295/6.
Melissa is forecast to move very slowly to the northwest and
north-northwest during the next few days into a weakness by an
approaching mid-latitude trough. There continues to be a very
large uncertainty on whether the storm would turn more into the
weakness and threaten Haiti or Cuba, or whether it would turn
more westward to the south of Jamaica as a ridge rebuilds over the
Bahamas, with reliable models in either camp. This appears to be
somewhat tied to the storm's structure, with the less vertically
coherent model solutions generally ending up on the western side of
the track envelope this weekend, and stronger initial storm
representations on the northeastern side. With such a distinct
track bifurcation noted in the guidance (excluding the consensus
aids) and dependence on structure, this should be considered an
extremely uncertain forecast, and significant changes could be
required. The model trends have been favoring the more westward
solutions recently, and the official forecast is nudged in that
direction at long range.
(snip)

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3. 8 am update
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 08:11 AM
Wednesday
https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCPAT3+shtml/221148.shtml

Tropical Storm Melissa Intermediate Advisory Number 4A
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL132025
800 AM EDT Wed Oct 22 2025

...RECON FINDS MELISSA MOVING VERY SLOWLY...
...HEAVY RAINFALL AND FLOODING EXPECTED OVER PORTIONS OF HISPANIOLA
AND JAMAICA OVER THE REMAINDER OF THIS WEEK...


SUMMARY OF 800 AM EDT...1200 UTC...INFORMATION
----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...14.3N 73.5W
ABOUT 305 MI...495 KM SSW OF PORT AU PRINCE HAITI
ABOUT 335 MI...540 KM SE OF KINGSTON JAMAICA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...50 MPH...85 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...WNW OR 290 DEGREES AT 2 MPH...4 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1001 MB...29.56 INCHES


WATCHES AND WARNINGS
--------------------
CHANGES WITH THIS ADVISORY:

None.
(snip)
WIND: Hurricane conditions are possible within the watch area in
Haiti beginning late on Thursday. Tropical storm conditions could
begin in Jamaica late on Thursday or Friday.

RAINFALL: Melissa is expected to bring 5 to 10 inches of rain to
the southern Dominican Republic, southern Haiti, and eastern Jamaica
through Saturday, with locally higher amounts possible. Additional
heavy rainfall is possible beyond Saturday; however, uncertainty in
Melissa’s track and forward speed reduces confidence in exact
totals. Significant flash flooding and landslides are possible.

Across the northern Dominican Republic, northern Haiti, and western
Jamaica, 2 to 4 inches of rain are expected through Saturday. For
Aruba and Puerto Rico, 1 to 3 inches are expected through the same
period. Flash and urban flooding will be possible through at least
Saturday.
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4. 11 am edt (not much change)
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 11:07 AM
Wednesday
https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCPAT3+shtml/221450.shtml

Tropical Storm Melissa Advisory Number 5
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL132025
1100 AM EDT Wed Oct 22 2025

...MELISSA DRIFTING WEST-NORTHWESTWARD IN THE CENTRAL CARIBBEAN...
...HEAVY RAINFALL AND FLOODING EXPECTED OVER PORTIONS OF HISPANIOLA
AND JAMAICA OVER THE REMAINDER OF THIS WEEK...


SUMMARY OF 1100 AM EDT...1500 UTC...INFORMATION
-----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...14.4N 73.6W
ABOUT 300 MI...485 KM SSW OF PORT AU PRINCE HAITI
ABOUT 325 MI...525 KM SE OF KINGSTON JAMAICA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...50 MPH...85 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...WNW OR 300 DEGREES AT 2 MPH...4 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1000 MB...29.53 INCHES


WATCHES AND WARNINGS
--------------------
CHANGES WITH THIS ADVISORY:

None.
(snip)

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5. 2 pm edt (no real change)
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 02:05 PM
Wednesday

Tropical Storm Melissa Intermediate Advisory Number 5A
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL132025
200 PM EDT Wed Oct 22 2025

...MELISSA REMAINS DISORGANIZED AND JOGGING SLOWLY WESTWARD...
...HEAVY RAINFALL AND FLOODING EXPECTED OVER PORTIONS OF HISPANIOLA
AND JAMAICA OVER THE REMAINDER OF THIS WEEK...


SUMMARY OF 200 PM EDT...1800 UTC...INFORMATION
----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...14.3N 74.0W
ABOUT 320 MI...510 KM SSW OF PORT AU PRINCE HAITI
ABOUT 315 MI...510 KM SE OF KINGSTON JAMAICA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...50 MPH...85 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...W OR 280 DEGREES AT 2 MPH...4 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1000 MB...29.53 INCHES


WATCHES AND WARNINGS
--------------------
CHANGES WITH THIS ADVISORY:

None.
(snip)

nitpicked

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6. 5 pm edt (almost stationary)
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 05:23 PM
Wednesday

Tropical Storm Melissa Advisory Number 6
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL132025
500 PM EDT Wed Oct 22 2025

...MELISSA MEANDERING IN THE CENTRAL CARIBBEAN...
...HEAVY RAINFALL AND FLOODING EXPECTED OVER PORTIONS OF HISPANIOLA
AND JAMAICA INTO THE WEEKEND...


SUMMARY OF 500 PM EDT...2100 UTC...INFORMATION
----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...14.4N 74.3W
ABOUT 320 MI...515 KM SSW OF PORT AU PRINCE HAITI
ABOUT 300 MI...480 KM SE OF KINGSTON JAMAICA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...50 MPH...85 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...WNW OR 290 DEGREES AT 2 MPH...4 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1000 MB...29.53 INCHES


WATCHES AND WARNINGS
--------------------
CHANGES WITH THIS ADVISORY:

None.
(snip)

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7. (FWIW) the 5 pm NHC discussion (bolding mine)
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 05:29 PM
Wednesday
https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCDAT3+shtml/222042.shtml

Tropical Storm Melissa Discussion Number 6
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL132025
500 PM EDT Wed Oct 22 2025

Like yesterday, Melissa's structure has come unglued this
afternoon, with the low-level circulation becoming exposed to
the west of the bursting deep convection. While that convection
continues to have very cold cloud tops, it lacks much organization,
remaining parked down-shear of the storm with 20-30 kt of
west-northwesterly shear undercutting the outflow layer. This
disjointed structure is nicely exhibited on an 1825 UTC AMSR2 pass.
While the objective intensity estimates in general are a little
higher than this morning, the subjective Dvorak estimates are lower,
and given the disjointed structure of Melissa, it favors holding the
intensity at 45 kt this advisory. Another Air Force Reserve and the
first NOAA Hurricane Hunter mission will be in the storm this
evening to provide more structural information.

Melissa has taken a short-term jog westward as it became exposed,
but now appears to be resuming a very slow west-northwestward motion
at 290/2 kt. The track reasoning remains similar to the previous
forecast over the next 2-3 days, with the forecast storm structure
likely to have a significant role in the future track. Dynamical
models that show the storm becoming more vertically aligned and deep
(GFS, HWRF) show Melissa turning north or northeastward due to
westerly deep-layer steering into a weakness induced by a broad
upper-level trough located over the Bahamas. However, models that
show Melissa remaining more shallow and misaligned (ECMWF, HAFS-A/B)
maintain a northwestward or north-northwestward component of
motion. Compared to this morning, the track guidance has shifted
slower and farther west, possibly due to the farther west initial
position. The NHC track has been shifted westward and is also a
little southward after 60 h, but remains farther north and east of
the ECMWF and HAFS models this cycle, and is roughly in between the
HFIP consensus approach (HCCA) and Google DeepMind ensemble mean
(GDMI). This track forecast favors the models that keep Melissa weak
and less prone to the deep-layer steering over the next 24-48 hours.
However, this remains a low confidence track forecast other than
Melissa maintaining a slow motion for the majority of the period.

The current vortex misalignment of Melissa is a significant
impediment to short-term intensification, and the vertical wind
shear is expected to maintain this tilted structure over the next
24-36 hours, although I can't preclude any center reformations
down-shear, like what occurred last night. After this period, the
ECWMF-SHIPS guidance now indicates the ongoing westerly shear will
decrease to 10-15 knots, and the storm remains over very warm
sea-surface temperatures and high oceanic heat content. The
hurricane-regional models have all responded by showing significant
intensification after the vortex becomes vertically aligned,
sometime in the 60-96 h period, though timing when this may occur is
challenging. The intensity guidance is once again higher than the
previous cycle, and the NHC intensity forecast was raised once
again, showing Melissa becoming a hurricane in 72 h, rapidly
intensifying into a major hurricane by 96 h, with additional
intensification likely thereafter. This forecast is in the best
agreement with the HCCA intensity aid, but it is worth noting it's
under the latest HAFS-A/B and HMON forecasts. Unfortunately, it is
becoming increasingly likely that Melissa will become a large and
dangerous hurricane by the end of the forecast period.


Key Messages:

1. Melissa is forecast to meander over the central Caribbean Sea and
could potentially become a major hurricane by early next week.

Interests in Jamaica, Haiti, Cuba, and the Dominican Republic are
urged to continue monitoring the latest forecasts.

2. Due to Melissa’s slow motion, the risk of a prolonged period of
strong winds, possibly lasting for a day or more, is increasing for
Jamaica and the Tiburon peninsula of Haiti. Preparations to protect
life and property should be rushed to completion, since strong
winds could begin in these areas as early as late Thursday or
Friday and continue increasing over the weekend.

3. Melissa is expected to produce heavy rainfall across portions of
the Dominican Republic, Haiti, and Jamaica through this weekend,
bringing a risk of significant, life-threatening flash flooding and
numerous landslides.
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8. 8 pm edt (even slower)
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 08:35 PM
Wednesday

Tropical Storm Melissa Intermediate Advisory Number 6A
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL132025
800 PM EDT Wed Oct 22 2025

...MELISSA MOVING VERY SLOWLY IN THE CENTRAL CARIBBEAN...
...HEAVY RAINFALL AND FLOODING EXPECTED OVER PORTIONS OF HISPANIOLA
AND JAMAICA INTO THE WEEKEND...


SUMMARY OF 800 PM EDT...0000 UTC...INFORMATION
----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...14.3N 74.5W
ABOUT 330 MI...530 KM SSW OF PORT AU PRINCE HAITI
ABOUT 300 MI...480 KM SSE OF KINGSTON JAMAICA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...50 MPH...85 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...W OR 270 DEGREES AT 1 MPH...2 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1002 MB...29.59 INCHES


WATCHES AND WARNINGS
--------------------
CHANGES WITH THIS ADVISORY:

None.
(snip)

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