Gaza Starvation lies

[Richard D]

(From Israel Realtime)

GAZA STARVATION LIES - are shown on live video from Gaza: https://www.ynetnews.com/article/r17lo2wbxg to be so ridiculously false, with literally piles of excellent quality food stuffs abundantly available. We note that sources such as Al Jazeera, and taken then by media such as the BBC, line up and pay tens of children to stand with empty pots - but don’t turn around and capture the full markets.

“Even based on UN-backed Integrated Food Security Phase Classification (IPC) food security report own analysis, there is no famine in Gaza.”

.. 9 aid trucks were allowed to enter today.

[FadedMullet]

1. Nine food aid trucks today (every day??) for a population of 2.1 million people. +

[questionseverything]

2. If 9 trucks were allowed in today, they are the first in a couple months

[Richard D]

3. Hopefully . . .

. . . this will work, and the food and supplies will be kept out of the paws of Hamas, so more will be able to enter soon.

[Eko]

4. Imagine all food coming into your city or town for 2 months being stopped.

How much do you think would be left?

[Richard D]

5. Appearantly...

... Enough to stock markets, keep restaurants "bustling", support a war, open new ice cream shops, and have unstaged videos and photographs showing overweight people.

[Eko]

6. You really think that is how much food your town/city would have?

[Richard D]

7. My statment is based on . . .

Numerous videos and photographs have been taken in Gaza in recent weeks.

[Eko]

8. Videos and photographs can be faked.

Im asking you to use reason.

[Richard D]

9. Exactly.

That is my point. Notice how you believe the information from Hamas, yet information from Israel is almost always not believed and called "Zionist Propaganda".

As to reason . . . well, there was a huge amount of food sent into Gaza before the blockade. That's what has been feeding the people there. I don;t know where the fresh produce and meat is coming from, but it seems to be there. The stockpiled food is running out, so more is being let in.

[Eko]

10. What information do I believe from Hamas?

There are like 2 million people in Gaza, what warehouses are large enough that are left to store enough food for all of them for 2 months? Most cities couldn't last a week or two without running out of food if all food was stopped. The fresh produce and meat should maybe make you think more than just realize "it seems to be there". When propaganda goes against reason it should make you think.

[Richard D]

11. Well, whatever the truth is, and from afar . . .

. . . you will believe what you wish to believe, and I will believe what I wish to believe--both ways based on a media that is known to lie--a lot.

Hopefully, the truth will be known soon.

[Eko]

14. I wish to believe that there was enough food and medical supplies there for the civilians.

But when you do a blockade that is the exact opposite of what happens. Do you remember the Berlin airlift? They started that within days to keep Berlin fed and it took a constant line of planes coming in. I find it amazing that you know that Israel did a blockade on food and aid for two months and you are here just trying to downplay it. There is no way that warehouses full of food for 2 million people are there, none. You can believe what you want to believe, I cant. I have to go by reality and reason and reality and reason says that yes, people in Gaza are starving. Maybe not all of them but damn sure there are too many of them. That's what a blockade does.

[Eko]

12. And do you think Israel would just let big warehouses of food stand?

They wouldn't bomb them? When their whole reasoning for stopping the aid going in was to pressure hamas to give up by denying food?

[Richard D]

13. I do think that they would not bomb sources of food. . ,

and as to Hamas, well, one truckload of food aid that they steal and resell is enough money to supply a brigade for a month. Perhaps that is what Israel was cutting off.

[Eko]

15. So they will stop food but wont bomb it?

Really? Why?

[Richard D]

17. I'm not there . . .

. . . and I won't speculate too much more. Like I said, we'll see what is happening in a few weeks.

[Eko]

18. Yeah they wont bomb food warehouses.

“We can confirm that an UNRWA warehouse/distribution centre in Rafah (southern Gaza) has been hit,” the UN agency said on Wednesday.

“We do not yet have more information on what exactly happened nor the number of UNRWA staff impacted,” agency spokeswoman Juliette Touma told news agency AFP.

“UNRWA uses this facility to distribute much-needed food and other lifesaving items to displaced people in southern Gaza.”
https://www.aljazeera.com/gallery/2024/3/13/photos-israel-strikes-un-warehouse-in-rafah-as-famine-looms-in-gaza

[Richard D]

19. Both UNRWA

and al jizera are known sources of disinformation.

[Eko]

20. Sure thing, the UN is known for its disinformation.

The UN, all those doctors, all those aid groups, Chef Jose Andres, all of them are wrong and Israel is right.

[Richard D]

23. It is certainly possible

We have been lied about for thousands of years. It ain't stopping now.

You believe Israel is lying. That is your right. What you believe does not mean that they are or aren't.

I believe that the UN and UNRWA (seemingly a decision of Hamas), and Hamas are lying.

You function on who you choose to believe.

And yet, there are numerous past occurrences of Hamas lying and taking pictures of children with terminal wasting diseases and saying that they are starving. Then, having one of their disgusting hostage release displays crowded with well-fed children and adults. Showing photos of the vast destruction in Gaza, but the photos were from Syria. I could go on, but you won't believe me, so it's a waste of my time.

Honestly, I don't care what antisemites believe. They have been deluded and filled with irrational hatred for thousands of years, and that ain't going to change, sadly.

[Eko]

25. I don't believe Hamas at all. Zero.

There was a blockade for almost 3 months. Full blockade of all food. That in itself lends tremendous evidence that people are starving. I believe all the aid organizations, all the doctors, you know the people who would be the ones to know. I guess until you see everyone skin and bones then you won’t believe it. And it surely seems like you called me anti-Semitic at the end of your post. I would like you to clarify that please.

[moniss]

16. First of all there is starvation and it has been reported by every

doctor from all over the world who has come back from Gaza recently. Unless for some reason you think that they are all telling lies and are taking part in the supposed "propaganda". I'll take the word of the doctors who have been there treating adults, teens, children and babies over anything else. Starvation ends up causing death by several means other than simply not having anything to eat. When severely malnourished children go long enough with that condition they succumb easily to infections, wounds etc. Additionally once a child is in a sever condition of being malnourished for an extended time it is not just a matter of starting to eat and drink water again. Their condition must be monitored, of course there is almost nobody left or any facilities left to do so, and carefully followed because their internal organs may have suffered extreme damage and overloading them could kill them also. Most of the children have been unable to maintain a source of clean drinking water and the resulting bowel problems etc. have also been chronic.

Put simply you can find children who are skin and bones and a child who is not and yet the child who looks healthier may be in very bad shape as far as health and nutrition. People who look perfectly healthy may in fact be suffering from ongoing debilitating health problems. That's why doctors and nutritionists don't just go by how somebody looks or whether somebody thinks food is available. Minority children in America's cities often might look robust but be suffering from malnutrition, lead poisoning etc.

[SARose]

21. $25 Butter and $40 Eggs: The Search for Food in Gaza

by
Juwayriah Wright
WRIGHT IS AN EDITORIAL PRODUCER FOR TIME.

When Reham Alkahlout, a mother of four, scours the markets in Al-Nasr, Gaza, she is gripped by a gnawing anxiety spurred by rows of scarce stalls, the acrid scent of burnt wood and plastic, and a scattering of overpriced essentials—if any are available at all.

Once vibrant with produce and daily bustle, markets have been hollowed out by months of siege, bombardment, and economic collapse. Since Israeli forces resumed offensive operations on March 18, the price of flour has climbed by 5,000 percent, residents say, and cooking oil by 1,200 percent.

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Community kitchens in Gaza, once a critical safety net for thousands of families, have been decimated. The communal spaces offer a hub for volunteers to prepare and distribute free meals, but only a fraction remain operational, leaving massive gaps in emergency food provision.

With cooking gas prices increasing by 2,400% and flour by over 5,600%, according to residents, the facilities can no longer prepare food at scale. “The whole concept of community kitchens that we started during the war is almost entirely going to shut down because there are no supplies anymore,” says Juliette Touma, director of communications for UNRWA (United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East). “The prices of everything have increased massively.”

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All I’m gonna say is take a look at that baby’s photo.

[twodogsbarking]

22. I can run a four minute mile.

[Alpeduez21]

27. Are those Jesus food trucks like the five loaves and two fish

Cause if they’re not that’s a paltry amount of aid.

[GiqueCee]

28. No one should conflate...

... Israel with Netanyahu. He is not emblematic of the nation as a whole by any stretch of the imagination. The crimes committed in Gaza are on him, not the nation of Israel, and criticism of Netanyahu's policies is not antisemitic; it is anti-Netanyahu. BIG difference.