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hamsterjill

(15,891 posts)
Wed May 28, 2025, 04:29 PM Wednesday

UPDATED: Some good vibes, please, if you can.

Last edited Wed May 28, 2025, 10:32 PM - Edit history (1)

UPDATE:

Unfortunately, we didn't get great news today at the vet visit. Elijah had been put on the medication "Varenzin" at a vet visit ten days ago. That medication is doing the job of helping his kidney related anemia, BUT his creatinine levels were higher today at the specialist visit than they were at the other, previous vet visit.

I live outside San Antonio and we are fortunate to have Gary Norsworthy's clinic here. They did wonders with a cat in my past, said cat living to be 20 years old. Elijah doesn't have that prospect for a future unfortunately, but we aren't giving up on him just yet. He's been prescribed additional meds, sub q fluids, and he will be reassessed in three weeks. So, any and all good vibes, prayers, healing light - whatever be your personal practice - will be gratefully accepted. Thanks for being a caring group!







I have a cat sanctuary - which I am blessed to have been able to build. It is my honor and privilege to be able to take care of my many rescued fur-babies.

When we bought the property and built this sanctuary a couple of years ago, we "inherited" several cats that lived on the property. One is a sweetheart that we named "Elijah". He was not touchable when we first met him, but over time, he has turned into an absolute love.

He's been diagnosed with kidney disease, and is on his way to see a cat specialist this afternoon. I know that CKD is not an immediate death sentence, but I could use some vibes, please. Elijah simply refuses to eat. I've tried EVERYTHING, and I know what to try. I've been syringe feeding him, and I'm well versed in doing that.

Took him to a veterinarian about ten days ago who diagnosed the CKD, but the regimen she suggested isn't working. Could use some vibes that the cat specialist has some tricks up their sleeve!

Thanks in advance - and hug your babies for me. They are ALL precious parts of our lives.

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UPDATED: Some good vibes, please, if you can. (Original Post) hamsterjill Wednesday OP
Heres hoping there is another Figarosmom Wednesday #1
Subcutaneous fluids, that we administered cksmithy Wednesday #2
Yes, the fluids are life saving. hamsterjill Wednesday #9
My vet showed me how to do it, techs had me do it the first time, at office. cksmithy 18 hrs ago #14
Thank you for your compassion for Bunny! hamsterjill 13 hrs ago #15
We have always considered our cats, dogs, guinea pig, bird, and two goldfish cksmithy 12 hrs ago #16
I hope he responds to a new treatment ......good vibes to you all..... Karadeniz Wednesday #3
Transdermal medication to increase appetite is often effective SheltieLover Wednesday #4
Yes, I have mirtazapine, but it's not doing the job unfortunately. hamsterjill Wednesday #10
Sorry to hear it's not working SheltieLover Yesterday #13
Good vibes sent justaprogressive Wednesday #5
Thanks! Cornell is my "go to" web source. hamsterjill Wednesday #11
Hoping for a miracle. Thank you for taking care of this precious fur baby. LiberalLoner Wednesday #6
My kitty aand I send vibes for best posible outcome for sweet Elijah. niyad Wednesday #7
Elura Nigrum Cattus Wednesday #8
Thank you! hamsterjill Wednesday #12
Holding all of you in love and light. niyad 10 hrs ago #17

cksmithy

(328 posts)
2. Subcutaneous fluids, that we administered
Wed May 28, 2025, 05:08 PM
Wednesday

at home kept our bluepoint Siamese healthy for almost 2 years. We started when she was about 16 years of age. She passed away around 18 years. The vets gave us a bag of saline solution, set of infusion needles drip lines,etc, and showed us how to do it. She loved to sit on our laps and get a pet, so it was no problem. She never reacted when I inserted the needle in. We have had other cats that there was no way we could this, if they needed it.

This was at least 20 years ago and at the time, there were no other options, according to the vets.

Sending good vibes, hope all goes well.

hamsterjill

(15,891 posts)
9. Yes, the fluids are life saving.
Wed May 28, 2025, 11:05 PM
Wednesday

I'm going to have to figure out a course of action for them. I am a big time needle phobe. Vet says he needs them three times per week, so I have until Friday to figure something out.

There's usually a vet tech somewhere that is willing to come by and do the administering of the fluids for a little extra money. I've already put out the word. There's also the original vet's office, which is much closer than the specialist. I will check with them to see if they are willing to help and how much they'll charge.

If it comes to it, and I absolutely have to do it - I will. I just don't like doing it and therefore, I'm not good at doing it.

cksmithy

(328 posts)
14. My vet showed me how to do it, techs had me do it the first time, at office.
Thu May 29, 2025, 09:10 AM
18 hrs ago

Luckily, I am not a big time needle phobe, but my husband is, so Bunny, the cat, and I spent a lot of time together. She didn't seem to even feel the needle insertion. I would recommend you use a small needle, it does take longer, but the larger size needle did bother her a little when inserted. It worked wonders for Bunny, she was her regular self, until it slowly stopped working. It was worth all the effort. She was a good kitty, all our cats were rescues over the years have been rescues. The neighbors moved and gave away their 2 cats, so we took her in.

hamsterjill

(15,891 posts)
15. Thank you for your compassion for Bunny!
Thu May 29, 2025, 01:56 PM
13 hrs ago

I always say that I so appreciate the people who will DO something for a rescue animal. So many people see them, look at them, and then just keep on walking. I understand that it's not always possible to help, but I SO APPRECIATE the people who DO something.

cksmithy

(328 posts)
16. We have always considered our cats, dogs, guinea pig, bird, and two goldfish
Thu May 29, 2025, 03:32 PM
12 hrs ago

as family. If they were sick or injured we took them to the vet, the same as when our children got sick. The goldfish made it to12 years (I think). We are in our 70's now, and our one 16 year old cat, who has been to vet twice for head cold type symptoms in the last 6 months. Her sister died a year 1/2 ago. We don't plan on rescuing any more pets. I am glad you are doing the good work and helping the fur-babies.

SheltieLover

(68,495 posts)
4. Transdermal medication to increase appetite is often effective
Wed May 28, 2025, 05:30 PM
Wednesday

Heling vibes on the way to sweet Elijah and you!

hamsterjill

(15,891 posts)
10. Yes, I have mirtazapine, but it's not doing the job unfortunately.
Wed May 28, 2025, 11:06 PM
Wednesday

Thank you for the kind thoughts.

justaprogressive

(3,861 posts)
5. Good vibes sent
Wed May 28, 2025, 05:52 PM
Wednesday

to you and Elijah...

further info from Cornell U.

Chronic Kidney Disease

Chronic kidney disease, or CKD, is one of the most prevalent diseases in older cats, affecting up to 40% of cats over the age of 10 and 80% of cats over the age of 15. Healthy kidneys perform many functions in the cat, including filtering the blood, making urine, and helping to regulate blood pressure. CKD refers to the persistent loss of kidney function over time and can have many health consequences. The only known risk factor for the development of CKD in cats is age, so it is very important for all senior cats to be regularly monitored for this disease.

Diagnosis
To evaluate kidney function, veterinarians will most often turn to blood tests and urine analysis (urinalysis) to evaluate the concentrations of waste products and other components that healthy kidneys normally filter or regulate. It is important to note, however, that there is no single test that can give a veterinarian a complete picture of kidney function and prognosis.

Blood tests can determine the concentration of three important waste products normally filtered by the kidneys: blood urea nitrogen (BUN), creatinine, and symmetric dimethyl arginine (SDMA). Azotemia, or an increase in the concentration of these compounds in your cat’s blood, may suggest that his kidneys are not functioning properly, but these values must be interpreted in light of a number of factors. Creatinine has historically been recognized as the most specific indicator of kidney function, but this test has some limitations. Dehydration, for example, can cause BUN and creatinine concentrations to increase in spite of the fact that a cat’s kidneys are functioning normally. Muscle mass also affects creatinine concentrations, so a very thin cat may have normal blood creatinine levels despite decreased kidney function. SDMA concentrations are less affected by dehydration and muscle mass and also rise earlier in the progression of CKD. Creatinine concentrations in the blood do not generally rise until a cat has lost almost 75% of their renal function, while SDMA elevations are detectable when about 40% of kidney function is lost, potentially allowing CKD to be diagnosed sooner.

In a urinalysis, your veterinarian will consider the concentration of the urine (urine specific gravity, or USG), its pH, and the presence of blood cells, bacteria, and other cells that generally should not be found in feline urine, all of which provide important information regarding the health of a cat’s kidneys. A low urine specific gravity, indicating poorly concentrated urine, can be one of the earliest indicators of CKD in the cat, but this will be falsely decreased in a cat who recently received fluids. Urine protein/creatinine ratio, or UPC ratio, tests for protein loss through the kidneys and can be very important in determining the severity of disease. It is also important to culture a urine sample to rule out the possibility of bacterial infection of the urinary tract in suspected cases of CKD. Urine samples may be obtained either by collection from a litter box filled with non-absorbent beads designed for this purpose, by catheterization of the urethra (the opening of the urinary tract to the outside world), or by cystocentesis, a technique that extracts a urine sample by passing a very fine needle through the abdominal wall into the bladder. Cystocentesis is generally considered a safe procedure, and in most cases will provide the most diagnostically useful sample for analysis.

Ideally, a veterinarian will base their interpretation of kidney function on at least two blood and urine samples, obtained within two weeks of one another, from a stable, well-hydrated cat. The concentrations of other blood components, including various electrolytes (like sodium and potassium), phosphorus, red blood cells, and proteins are also important to evaluate in a cat being examined for CKD. Other studies that can be useful in evaluating a cat with suspected CKD include imaging studies such as abdominal ultrasound, radiographs (X-rays), and, in some cases, microscopic evaluation of biopsy samples. Approximately 60% of cats with CKD will also develop hypertension, so measurement of a cat’s blood pressure is an important part of the medical evaluation for this disease.

https://www.vet.cornell.edu/departments-centers-and-institutes/cornell-feline-health-center/health-information/feline-health-topics/chronic-kidney-disease


niyad

(123,890 posts)
7. My kitty aand I send vibes for best posible outcome for sweet Elijah.
Wed May 28, 2025, 09:34 PM
Wednesday

Please keep us posted.

Nigrum Cattus

(556 posts)
8. Elura
Wed May 28, 2025, 10:31 PM
Wednesday

That's what my last cat with CKD was prescribed.
It's very difficult to get them to eat anything that isn't bad
for their kidneys. Best of luck with Elijah

hamsterjill

(15,891 posts)
12. Thank you!
Wed May 28, 2025, 11:07 PM
Wednesday

The vet's office will call tomorrow to check on him, and I have made a note to myself to ask about this medication. Appreciate the information.

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