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Related: About this forumToyota warns time running out to challenge China's lead in hydrogen vehicles

Toyota warns time running out to challenge Chinas lead in hydrogen vehicles
Japanese group calls for international investment in the fuel to avoid Chinese dominance of supply chains and exports
FT.com | Harry Dempsey | May 4 2025
Toyotas hydrogen chief has warned that vehicles powered by the green fuel could suffer the same fate as battery-powered electric cars, with Chinese groups rapidly dominating supply chains and exports unless other countries step up investment in the technology.
Mitsumasa Yamagata, president of the Japanese carmakers hydrogen arm, said China was taking a lead in infrastructure for hydrogen trucks, reducing fuel costs to a third of Japans and rapidly building refuelling stations. China already accounts for most of the worlds hydrogen commercial vehicle sales.
All stakeholders moving at once is the most important thing for bringing the cost of hydrogen down, Yamagata said. China is the most advanced in the world for hydrogen trucks. Why theyre that advanced is because the Chinese government ordered turning major logistics routes into hydrogen highways.
Hydrogen fuel cells which create electricity through a chemical reaction with oxygen, emitting only water vapour offer great promise for long-haul transport because batteries are considered too heavy and require too much recharging for commercial vehicles.
Asian carmakers including Toyota and South Koreas Hyundai have bet on hydrogen as a fuel of the future, even as battery-powered vehicles take off and narrow the market opportunity for the colourless gas...more
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Can it be that Toyota "doesn't know thermodynamics" ??

While 'Murikans argue, China builds

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Toyota warns time running out to challenge China's lead in hydrogen vehicles (Original Post)
Caribbeans
May 4
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NNadir
(35,920 posts)1. Well, we have had 50 years of hydrogen bullshit. I wouldn't worry about time running out. They'll still be the...
...same marketing of fossil fuels as "hydrogen" until the fossil fuels to make them runs out.
A Giant Climate Lie: When they're selling hydrogen, what they're really selling is fossil fuels.
There really isn't a "race" to embrace thermodynamic stupidity, and the attempt to manufacture one is as obvious and pathetic as the attempt to greenwash fossil fuels as "hydrogen."
pansypoo53219
(22,266 posts)2. butbutbut emo gave us electric.
dead end.