Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

mdmc

(29,360 posts)
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 07:25 PM Apr 17

Why don't we all use bitcoin?

Good evening DU. I hope that you all had a great day.
Why don't we all use bitcoin?
I know why I don't use it - I don't know how.
But everyone else.. Why aren't you using bitcoin?
I find it to be a very interesting phenomenon.
I didn't see any other bitcoin threads here on DU.
Thanks for reading. Have a great night.

41 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Why don't we all use bitcoin? (Original Post) mdmc Apr 17 OP
Bitcoin is private enterprise, US Treasury is public. /nt bucolic_frolic Apr 17 #1
thanks for the reply.. mdmc Apr 17 #3
I don't understand how they have any value other than money laundering. I think doc03 Apr 17 #2
The big money return in crypto is::: Norrrm Apr 17 #7
what do you think about my idea of holding bitcoin for my kids? mdmc Apr 21 #12
I admit I know next to nothing about Bitcoin, but people were making millions back doc03 Apr 22 #17
thanks for the reply mdmc Apr 22 #18
I think of bitcoin as a future currency - I plan on leaving my bitcoins to my sons mdmc Apr 21 #11
If you can buy low and they can sell high, go for it. Norrrm Apr 21 #15
Thanks for the reply mdmc Apr 21 #16
If you want to buy NFT's you need ETH womanofthehills May 11 #29
thanks for checking in.. mdmc May 15 #40
I noticed while doing my taxes that there is now a section on cryptocurrency IcyPeas Apr 17 #4
I've heard that story! mdmc Apr 22 #19
I try very had to avoid scams. -misanthroptimist Apr 17 #5
You can actually buy Bitcoin thru PayPal womanofthehills May 11 #31
I asked your question on DuckDuckGo JoseBalow Apr 17 #6
thanks mdmc Apr 21 #13
No problemo JoseBalow Apr 21 #14
Weird as my transactions took seconds. womanofthehills May 11 #33
Bitcoin is loved by criminals & dark web. Outside of that it's no better than meme stocks like DJT & tRump's scam coin.n Bernardo de La Paz Apr 17 #8
oh my mdmc Apr 25 #21
Wrong - the young love Bitcoin womanofthehills May 11 #34
Your statement does not contradict mine or make it wrong. The two groups can separately love it. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 11 #35
Despite its name, it is not a currency created by the government to facilitate commerce. surfered Apr 17 #9
It has no ties to the production of goods and services. I would stay away from it. everyonematters Apr 17 #10
I've had people ask me what the dollar is based on.... A HERETIC I AM Apr 24 #20
US dollar based on US production. Bitcoin based on convenience for shadows, no production, no "store of value". . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 25 #22
Wouldn't bitcoin buyers back bitcoin? mdmc May 6 #23
That they back it does not provide a base. They can sell it down just as easily as buy it up. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 11 #37
Too complicated for now brokephibroke May 7 #24
thanks for the link mdmc May 11 #25
Dave Troy hannah May 11 #26
Not sure who that is brokephibroke May 11 #38
I have a wallet but you can also buy Bitcoin on PayPal womanofthehills May 11 #36
I don't know how to buy food at the grocery store TheFarseer May 11 #27
Bitcoin are meme stocks that have no real intrinsic value LetMyPeopleVote May 11 #28
It can double or halve in value in a year or less. Shermann May 11 #30
2 yrs ago but still good vapor2 May 11 #32
Perfect - thanks. (nt) Pinback May 16 #41
can you say discover. pansypoo53219 May 12 #39

doc03

(37,840 posts)
2. I don't understand how they have any value other than money laundering. I think
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 07:29 PM
Apr 17

it will be the next bubble that bursts and we will end up bailing out their loses like in 2008.

Norrrm

(1,644 posts)
7. The big money return in crypto is:::
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 08:29 PM
Apr 17

The big money return in crypto is:::
1. Starting it, hyping it, selling it, and getting out, leaving the
suckers holding the bag.
2. Handling/storing it for others.
...a. Not your own money/crypto. Someone else's money/crypto.
...b. Lots of fraud/money manipulation/theft/lack of regulation.
3. Backed by trust/faith/great promises/optimism... but no
real assets.
4. It can literally disappear and good luck with lawsuits.
------------------
A few have profited by 'investing' but not the majority.

mdmc

(29,360 posts)
12. what do you think about my idea of holding bitcoin for my kids?
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 08:59 PM
Apr 21

Do you think it will ever have value?

doc03

(37,840 posts)
17. I admit I know next to nothing about Bitcoin, but people were making millions back
Tue Apr 22, 2025, 08:13 AM
Apr 22

before the Great Recession on mortgage scams and derivatives (something else I know nothing about). But the whole thing
came crashing down in 2008. A friend of mine tried to get me to invest in the Dot Com bubble, he was worth millions and ended
up losing everything in 2000. Looking back over my 77 years I regret not buying land. I could have bought old farm and mining
land for a few hundred dollars an acre that is now selling for $50k to $100k an acre.

mdmc

(29,360 posts)
11. I think of bitcoin as a future currency - I plan on leaving my bitcoins to my sons
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 08:57 PM
Apr 21

I hope that my sons will be considered early adopters

Norrrm

(1,644 posts)
15. If you can buy low and they can sell high, go for it.
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 09:19 PM
Apr 21

It is one of the very, very few that has made profit.
And that is only because people want to believe in it.
Even bitcoin has no real assets backing it.

BC is used as a fantastic example of crypto but it is a lucky outlier.

Hundreds of others have flopped.

mdmc

(29,360 posts)
16. Thanks for the reply
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 11:23 PM
Apr 21

I don't plan to sell. I plan to give it to my kids when they get older.

womanofthehills

(9,786 posts)
29. If you want to buy NFT's you need ETH
Sun May 11, 2025, 04:30 PM
May 11

I wanted to get into selling NFT’s (digital art, etc) so I got some ETH & Bitcoin. I just bought a little to figure out how it works. It’s fun - as my original investment was just enough to have fees connected to selling digital art , but as I could see my $600 almost double - i definitely got interested. The last month it’s been down but up again this week. You can buy direct from some companies with your bitcoin. When my bitcoin is up, I will purchase stuff - when it’s down I won’t. Now - thru PayPal you can also invest in Bitcoin. I think it’s fun and a good way to make money.

IcyPeas

(23,588 posts)
4. I noticed while doing my taxes that there is now a section on cryptocurrency
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 07:56 PM
Apr 17

I don't get it to be honest. This story was interesting :

Bitcoin buried in Newport landfill

In 2013, James Howells mistakenly disposed of a laptop hard drive containing the private key for 8,000 Bitcoin in the Docksway landfill in Newport, Wales.[a] Howells subsequently assembled a team of specialists and secured funding to excavate the site, but Newport City Council refused permission, citing the cost and environmental impact of the search. If the coins are discovered, Howells proposes distributing 30% of the proceedings among the council and the population of Newport.

As of February 2025, the missing Bitcoin was worth £597 million (US$751 million). In December 2024, Howells sued the council for £495 million, with the council contesting that the device is now its property. The attempted recovery of the missing Bitcoin has been likened to a digital treasure hunt. Howells and his team are confident that retrieval of the data remains possible, while the council continues to profess its scepticism. Following a hearing, the High Court dismissed Howells' claim in January 2025, ruling that it had no prospect of success.


The entire story is pretty interesting. Pretty devastating for the guy.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitcoin_buried_in_Newport_landfill



JoseBalow

(7,535 posts)
6. I asked your question on DuckDuckGo
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 08:05 PM
Apr 17

This was the AI Assist answer:

Many people don't use Bitcoin due to its high volatility, slow transaction speeds, and expensive fees, which make it impractical for everyday purchases. Additionally, concerns about security, regulatory issues, and a lack of widespread acceptance by businesses contribute to its limited use.


There are several other listed sources...

https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ftsa&q=Why+don't+we+all+use+bitcoin?

womanofthehills

(9,786 posts)
33. Weird as my transactions took seconds.
Sun May 11, 2025, 04:36 PM
May 11

If you are buying from a business who takes bitcoin - transactions are instant.

Bernardo de La Paz

(55,948 posts)
8. Bitcoin is loved by criminals & dark web. Outside of that it's no better than meme stocks like DJT & tRump's scam coin.n
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 08:32 PM
Apr 17

mdmc

(29,360 posts)
21. oh my
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 09:39 AM
Apr 25

How can you say such horrible things?
Bitcoin is not the same as trump currency, is it?

Bernardo de La Paz

(55,948 posts)
35. Your statement does not contradict mine or make it wrong. The two groups can separately love it. . . nt
Sun May 11, 2025, 04:40 PM
May 11

surfered

(6,898 posts)
9. Despite its name, it is not a currency created by the government to facilitate commerce.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 08:38 PM
Apr 17

It is an asset created by people like Big Balls and fluctuates with the whims of the market.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,785 posts)
20. I've had people ask me what the dollar is based on....
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 01:03 AM
Apr 24

Since we did away with the Gold Standard in Nixon's era.

So now, what exactly is the dollar based on?

The best explanation I ever heard went like this;

The US Dollar is backed by the "Full Faith and Credit of the United States Government".

But in practical terms, what does that mean exactly?

It means that the American people have for decades, been reliably getting out of bed in the morning, going to work and willingly paying taxes on their wages, and those payments are made before the worker gets his paycheck.

And we don't (Or at least historically haven't) protest wildly or storm the capital (again, until only recently) every 4 years. And Congress is seen, rightly so, to have unlimited taxing power over the people (which they do), and as such, we have never defaulted on any debt incurred by said government.

In short, the US Dollar is backed by the people and their willingness to go to work every day, 5 days a week, at least (for most) 50 weeks a year.

Now....
Can anything REMOTELY similar be said about any type of crypto currency?

I think not.

I don't speculate on the Euro or the Yen or the Swiss Franc or the Renmimbi or Wheat or Pork Bellies.

I sure as fuck aren't going to be using or speculating on something dreamed up by a guy with a computer and too much time on his hands.

Bernardo de La Paz

(55,948 posts)
22. US dollar based on US production. Bitcoin based on convenience for shadows, no production, no "store of value". . nt
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 10:46 AM
Apr 25

Bernardo de La Paz

(55,948 posts)
37. That they back it does not provide a base. They can sell it down just as easily as buy it up. . . . nt
Sun May 11, 2025, 04:42 PM
May 11

hannah

(320 posts)
26. Dave Troy
Sun May 11, 2025, 04:16 PM
May 11

Said, if you’re rich you can buy bitcoin. Otherwise if you are willing to lose a lot of money, you shouldn’t buy.

brokephibroke

(1,905 posts)
38. Not sure who that is
Sun May 11, 2025, 04:49 PM
May 11

I dabble in crypto and have made money. Sure there are ups and downs like most investments, but I have not lost a lot of money…

TheFarseer

(9,590 posts)
27. I don't know how to buy food at the grocery store
Sun May 11, 2025, 04:21 PM
May 11

With bitcoin. I think you can buy things on the internet with it. I’ve heard a lot of stories about how people got all their bitcoins stolen by hackers. I get the sense it is mostly used for internet crime. I also hear about coin miners wasting enough work power a medium sized country. Nothing about it sounds good. I wish they would ban it. That said, I own a few shares of a bitcoin etf and have made some cash trading around a position with it.

Shermann

(8,929 posts)
30. It can double or halve in value in a year or less.
Sun May 11, 2025, 04:32 PM
May 11

The USD is the exact opposite of that in terms of volatility.

Latest Discussions»Culture Forums»Personal Finance and Investing»Why don't we all use bitc...