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Celerity

(50,082 posts)
Tue May 20, 2025, 12:05 PM May 20

Black Box - Everybody Everybody (Official Video) 1990 + Black Box - Everybody Everybody (Fuzzy Hair Remix) 2007





Label: Groove Groove Melody – GGM 9013
Format: Vinyl, 12", 45 RPM
Country: Italy
Released: 1990
Genre: Electronic
Style: Italo House







Label: Groove Groove Melody – GGM 0781
Format: Vinyl, 12"
Country: Italy
Released: 2007
Genre: Electronic
Style: House, Electro





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Black Box - Everybody Everybody (Official Video) 1990 + Black Box - Everybody Everybody (Fuzzy Hair Remix) 2007 (Original Post) Celerity May 20 OP
The woman you have pictures of is not the real singer iemanja May 24 #1
I know that, it states that at the link, but you also have the wrong performer, the singer on this track is Martha Wash Celerity May 24 #2
Okay, thanks for the correction. iemanja May 24 #3

iemanja

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1. The woman you have pictures of is not the real singer
Sat May 24, 2025, 07:19 AM
May 24

Black Box sampled, essentially stole, Loleatta Holloway’s work without attribution. The woman pictured is a French model.

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Celerity

(50,082 posts)
2. I know that, it states that at the link, but you also have the wrong performer, the singer on this track is Martha Wash
Sat May 24, 2025, 10:09 AM
May 24

and the French model (her name is Katrin Quinol) did actually appear live with Black Box (but of course was not the original singer, that was Wash). Loleatta Holloway had nothing to do with Everybody Everbody. The song with Holloway involved as Ride on Time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everybody_Everybody#Background_and_controversy

Background and controversy

In 1989, Martha Wash was approached by Black Box, then known as Groove Groove Melody, to record demos for other musicians in exchange for a flat fee payment. Wash recorded vocals for the songs in a five-day period, which were kept in six of nine songs from the group's debut studio album Dreamland (1990). However, she was not credited on the album's liner notes as French fashion model Katrin Quinol was brought in to phonetically learn the songs on Dreamland for seven months despite not knowing the English language, and made several appearances as part of the group. Black Box's record label RCA Records continuously stated that Quinol was the lead vocalist of each song, in response to publications such as Billboard and The New York Times insisting that another singer appeared on the album.

On 21 November 1990, several consumer class action lawsuits were issued in the Los Angeles Federal District Court relating to Milli Vanilli and Black Box. RCA Records initially believed that the vocals in Black Box's music belonged to Quinol, who was seen in the group's promotional material. Wash sued the Black Box members in September 1990 for false advertising and uncredited vocals, but was settled out-of-court in December 1990. She eventually signed an eight-year contract with the record label to record eight individual albums, in addition to a financed national tour. RCA Records additionally recognised Wash as the "principal voice" on Dreamland and insisted that Black Box's producers were the cause of her "discrimination".

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Interview with Miss Katrin Quinol - From Black Box to "Apprivoiser Nos Désirs"

https://www.laparisiennelife.com/2016/05/interview-with-miss-katrin-quinol-she-tells-us-about-her-early-years-in-the-music-band-black-box-and-her-new-solo-single-apprivoiser



La Parisienne Life would like to thank Mister Fabien Scarlakens for the translation.

You've been a member of the italian dance music band Black Box. How did that happened ?

I was a model during the day and a gogo dancer in the nightclubs. I loved to sing at the end of the night and one night the Black Box producers came. They offered me that opportunity. I wasn't that excited (LOL), I loved my job, but I was young and I told myself : why not ? They want a singer : OK, let's try.

In the eurodance music industry, it was very common to use models lip sync over tracks sung by chorus singers. Was it frustrating for you ?

A the beginning, it wasn't frustrated at all. It was a job like any other, I wasn't expecting anything special. I couldn't not imagine becoming that famous beeing Black Box's face. I thought I would go in a recording studio and sing their tracks, but everything was ready (LOL). I was used to lip sync on 70s/80s show before, I had fun to do it. It was just fine with Black Box too. When I started to figure out the situation and wanted to sing for real, it was too late : Black Box was huge, I was like trapped. "Ride On Time" was the biggest selling single of the year 1989 in the UK, I couldn't stop. It was a lot of fun, but of course, I would have loved to record the songs.

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