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BumRushDaShow

(165,567 posts)
Sat Jan 3, 2026, 06:28 PM Yesterday

Senate to vote on war powers measure following Maduro ouster

Source: Politico

01/03/2026 11:38 AM ESTUpdated: 01/03/2026 04:37 PM EST


Sen. Tim Kaine said he will force a vote next week to block further military action against Venezuela without congressional approval in the wake of President Donald Trump’s operation to capture Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro. Kaine, who has so far been unable to get Congress to stop Trump’s Latin American military operations, called the move to oust Maduro without congressional approval “a sickening return to a day when the United States asserted the right to dominate” the Western Hemisphere.

“My bipartisan resolution stipulating that we should not be at war with Venezuela absent a clear congressional authorization will come up for a vote next week,” Kaine said in a statement. “We’ve entered the 250th year of American democracy and cannot allow it to devolve into the tyranny that our founders fought to escape.”

Test vote

While the vote, which will occur when the Senate returns from its holiday break, comes after the fact, it would require Trump to seek congressional approval for further attacks if enacted.

The vote will also be a key test of support among Republicans for Trump’s aggressive move. While previous efforts to restrict Trump have failed for lack of GOP support, the administration’s actions could sway some Republicans who have expressed concerns about heightened tensions with Venezuela. Kaine told reporters on a Saturday call that Republicans “cannot pretend anymore” that Trump’s rhetoric was just a “bluff” or a “negotiating tactic.”

Read more: https://www.politico.com/news/2026/01/03/senate-war-powers-maduro-ouster-00709715

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Senate to vote on war powers measure following Maduro ouster (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Yesterday OP
I see the repukes are trying to find that horse that bolted from the barn again. nt Javaman Yesterday #1
It will take dweller Yesterday #2
I fear not. iemanja Yesterday #12
It won't pass chicoescuela Yesterday #3
That almost doesn't matter. We need to be seen to be insisting on the Constitution, even if Scrivener7 Yesterday #5
It might. mahina Yesterday #7
Good for him! And his statement was good too. He needs to be joined by every Scrivener7 Yesterday #4
Well there is always Fetterman to muck up the works. Marie Marie 23 hrs ago #22
Well whoop to dooodoo Katcat Yesterday #6
Even if enough GQPers go against tRump he'll just ignore it and do whatever he wants. groundloop Yesterday #11
Like Trump gives a shit. He can do whatever the hell he wants and doesn't care Bev54 Yesterday #8
People won't be looking at Epstein files,now.. BattleRow Yesterday #17
I'm waiting to hear something from Rand Paul. Raven123 Yesterday #9
I saw an article earlier (can't find which site) that was a commentary on his Xitter post linking to a 2007 article BumRushDaShow Yesterday #16
Thanks. Raven123 Yesterday #19
"Don't see the parallel between Madura and Mamdani" BumRushDaShow Yesterday #20
How about not just Venezuela. Our Congress needs to OK this shit. Scalded Nun Yesterday #10
Or cut military funding? Is that possible? It seems so, tho' I'm not sure. It's my understanding that, yes, ancianita Yesterday #14
The Republicans will have to pry their mouths from Trump's asshole first. Orrex Yesterday #13
How bipartisan? SSJVegeta Yesterday #15
This: calimary Yesterday #18
Not likely angrychair 23 hrs ago #21
'Seek approval' my fat old ass. OldBaldy1701E 15 hrs ago #23
So they will beg him to follow the law. Even though he clearly intends to break the law. travelingthrulife 12 hrs ago #24

Scrivener7

(58,247 posts)
5. That almost doesn't matter. We need to be seen to be insisting on the Constitution, even if
Sat Jan 3, 2026, 07:01 PM
Yesterday

we are spitting into the wind doing it.

mahina

(20,417 posts)
7. It might.
Sat Jan 3, 2026, 08:12 PM
Yesterday

Best not to give up the ship of democracy so fast. Its a lot harder to get back than defend.

Scrivener7

(58,247 posts)
4. Good for him! And his statement was good too. He needs to be joined by every
Sat Jan 3, 2026, 07:00 PM
Yesterday

Congressional Democrat.

Katcat

(538 posts)
6. Well whoop to dooodoo
Sat Jan 3, 2026, 07:26 PM
Yesterday

You can force all the votes you want but something tells me the Nazis will vote in lockstep with t Rump.

groundloop

(13,565 posts)
11. Even if enough GQPers go against tRump he'll just ignore it and do whatever he wants.
Sat Jan 3, 2026, 08:14 PM
Yesterday

Bev54

(13,187 posts)
8. Like Trump gives a shit. He can do whatever the hell he wants and doesn't care
Sat Jan 3, 2026, 08:12 PM
Yesterday

what congress or the courts say. Look at Epstein files, he just doesn't give a shit.

BumRushDaShow

(165,567 posts)
16. I saw an article earlier (can't find which site) that was a commentary on his Xitter post linking to a 2007 article
Sat Jan 3, 2026, 08:46 PM
Yesterday



Senator Rand Paul
@SenRandPaul


Socialism Failed in Venezuela, Keep it out of America

Few Venezuelans, or Americans for that matter, will or should mourn the removal of Nicholas Maduro from power. For socialism to achieve its goals, ultimately and always, requires state sponsored violence. Despite what American Democrat Socialists say, there really is no kinder, gentler form of government-run socialism.

This is not the first brush with death for Maduro. Nearly a decade ago, drones nearly killed Maduro. The violence of socialism, it seems, creates many enemies. It happened during one of those staged military parades that seem to be a signature performance of authoritarian regimes — goose-stepping soldiers and long-winded speeches.

Two DJI M600 drones sped toward Maduro as he prepared to speak. Each drone carried 2.2 pounds of plastic explosives. Their goal was assassination. Several soldiers died but the drones missed their mark.

In The Case Against Socialism, I ask: “Who would have wanted to kill Maduro, the leader of the socialist paradise that Hollywood star Sean Penn once claimed had alleviated 80% of the poverty in Venezuela?

Perhaps it was the sixteen year old girl who leads a gang that fights rivals for control of an operation that sifts through garbage for edible food. Or perhaps it is one of the young men from Chacao who hunt dogs and cats in the street and pigeons in the plaza to eat.”

While the story today is of the demise of the Maduro regime, the more important story is will America defeat socialists abroad and vote in socialists at home? The voters in New York City likely just want free food and haven’t concerned themselves with the consequences of who will make that food.

Thanks, or no thanks, to our public school system young people seem to have absorbed the paradise version of socialism but not the horror or carnage that has inevitably come with socialism. Instead of Mao’s famines, they vaguely argue for “socialist” Sweden or Denmark whose leaders keep trying to explain to Americans that they are in no way socialist.

A Gallup poll shows that 51 percent of young American adults (age 18-29) have a positive view of socialism. Though the famines and killing fields of socialism are well documented, American youth blithely accept the utopian promises of “fairness for all.” Or as Mamdani puts it “the warm embrace of collectivism.”

Ultimately, any government that wishes to “own the means of production,” must first take them from who currently owns them, which inevitably requires state violence.

As the Maduro regime ends, Americans and Venezuelans, should heed the words of Professor Lahoud of the Universidad Central de Venezuela: “I have known the reality of the failure of socialism in my own flesh. And as I live in Venezuela, I want to show that this is an absolute failure always and everywhere. Socialism, whatever form it may take, only brings economic destruction and worsening of the conditions of life.” Socialism under Maduro created an economy where 87% of Venezuelans descended into poverty and the average person lost 30 pounds (unintentionally).

It is, and always will be, more difficult to sell an abstraction such as freedom. It is always easier for the demagogue to peddle something for nothing —free cars, free food, free medicine. If no one cares to examine what incentives must exist to create cars, food, and medicine the allure of socialism will persist and may ultimately defeat the will of the people to sustain liberty.

The evil story of Maduro in Venezuela is a sad one, it is the story of socialism in all its drab and dreary machine-like-destruction of individual thought, creativity, and ambition. It is the story of socialism in all its violence, bloodshed, and tyranny. It is a cautionary tale of how America has so far eluded the siren call of something for nothing, an equality determined and enforced by the government — but also a warning to those in NYC who seem enchanted by Mamdani’s socialist cant.

As the euphoria over Maduro’s fall fades, let’s hope that Venezuela will choose a different path, realizing that it was not just Maduro who pitched socialism but a cast of socialist leaders tracing back to the 1970’s. While celebrating the demise of Maduro, the fact that his toppling came by executive order and not by Congressional declaration is not an insignificant point. In this case, a leader who monopolized central power is removed in an action that monopolizes central power. Defenders of limitless Presidential powers call this “the Unitary President.”

Easy enough to argue such policy when the action is short, swift and effective but glaringly less so when that unitary power drains of us trillions of dollars and thousands of lives, such as occurred in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Vietnam.

Time will tell if regime change in Venezuela is successful without significant monetary or human cost. Best though, not to forget, that our founders limited the executive's power to go to war without Congressional authorization for a reason—to limit the horror of war and limit war to acts of defense. Let’s hope those precepts of peace are not forgotten in our justified relief that Maduro is gone and the Venezuelan people will have a second chance.

12:25 PM · Jan 3, 2026


He managed to spin this away from his usual isolationism and "no regime changes" to instead attack "socialism" (as a purported warning to the Mandamis and Sanders of the U.S.).

Raven123

(7,522 posts)
19. Thanks.
Sat Jan 3, 2026, 09:28 PM
Yesterday

Don’t see the parallel between Madura and Mamdani, but not surprising Paul would imagine one exists

BumRushDaShow

(165,567 posts)
20. "Don't see the parallel between Madura and Mamdani"
Sat Jan 3, 2026, 09:33 PM
Yesterday

There isn't but they have latched onto the term "socialism" and "socialist" and rejiggered and skewed it into whatever boogieman nonsense they can come up with.

Scalded Nun

(1,602 posts)
10. How about not just Venezuela. Our Congress needs to OK this shit.
Sat Jan 3, 2026, 08:12 PM
Yesterday

No one person should have the right, nor the power, to attack a sovereign nation...I do not give a shit what party they belong to.

What is so sickening is that our current GOP-led Congress has relinquished pretty-much all Congressional authority in order to kiss the ass of this lunatic currently in the White House.

I fear this will not end well for our country in terms of blood, money and political fallout.

ancianita

(42,818 posts)
14. Or cut military funding? Is that possible? It seems so, tho' I'm not sure. It's my understanding that, yes,
Sat Jan 3, 2026, 08:20 PM
Yesterday

Congress has the constitutional authority to cut military funding for a specific cause by exercising its "power of the purse".

Congress can include specific policy provisions (riders) in funding bills to restrict how money is used
or even terminate U.S. participation in hostilities by cutting off funding entirely for a military operation.

Congress can pass legislation that bars the use of funds for certain activities or in certain locations.
While the President is the Commander-in-Chief, with authority over the operational deployment of forces, Congress's power of the purse provides a strong mechanism to influence and even limit military activities and expenditures if there is sufficient political will and agreement to pass such legislation.

calimary

(89,021 posts)
18. This:
Sat Jan 3, 2026, 08:51 PM
Yesterday

“… Kaine said in a statement. “We’ve entered the 250th year of American democracy and cannot allow it to devolve into the tyranny that our founders fought to escape.”

Re: Senator Tim Kaine

angrychair

(11,660 posts)
21. Not likely
Sat Jan 3, 2026, 11:37 PM
23 hrs ago

Too many on both sides of the isle actually support the "end justifies the mean" mentality as has been made very clear from Colorado to Congress.

We are officially cooked as a country. No point in any of it. We are a death cult of a country.

OldBaldy1701E

(10,145 posts)
23. 'Seek approval' my fat old ass.
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 07:48 AM
15 hrs ago

He will just ignore it as they have done with so many other attempts to 'rein him in'.

Removing him, as well as his administration, is the only option that will work.

travelingthrulife

(4,463 posts)
24. So they will beg him to follow the law. Even though he clearly intends to break the law.
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 10:46 AM
12 hrs ago

Impeach. Convict. Remove from office. Tribunal. Prison.

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