Missing Louisiana girl, 13, rescued from box in Pennsylvania basement
Source: The Guardian
Police say Ki-Shawn Crumity, 26, met girl through Snapchat, and charged him with human trafficking and sexual assault
A 13-year-old Louisiana girl who went missing after meeting a man online was found alive in a box at his home several states away in Pennsylvania along with evidence that she had been sexually assaulted, according to authorities.
Ki-Shawn Crumity, 26, faces charges of human trafficking, sexual assault, unlawful contact with a minor and corruption of a child after police in Pittsburgh said they arrested him on Thursday. He is one of at least three men who had been arrested as of Saturday amid an investigation involving law enforcement agencies in multiple states.
This child
was groomed, exploited and then sexually abused by strangers who found her online, Louisianas attorney general, Liz Murrill, said in a statement on Friday. This is just one example of the dangers of social media and of human trafficking.
Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/01/missing-louisiana-girl-found-in-box-pennsylvania
I'd hate to be a parent in these days. Was one for 2+2 kids 20-40 years ago - very hard even then.
sop
(16,689 posts)erronis
(21,801 posts)There won't be any controls placed on this behavior in my lifetime since it involves so many rich people and US/state governments are riddled with enablers (and users.)
I could see some 'religious' movement trying to clean up this but they are frequently purveyors of the same type of horrible actions. Trading one devil for another.
ShazzieB
(21,901 posts)Remember "To Catch a Predator"? Those episodes were produced and aired from 2004 to 2007, and that stuff was going on for a while before somebody got the idea of using online chatrooms to set traps for scumbags and televise their arrests.
Rich scumbags like Epstein don't need to resort to such things, because their money empowers them to get what they want in other ways.
AZJonnie
(2,028 posts)Also I don't think any of them claimed they were physically confined against their will either. Carolyn Andriano, the girl that Maxwell was convicted of trafficking to Epstein, testified she went to Epstein's estate "probably 100 times over the span of years", via "appointment", and of her own accord. She also said that after the "introductory"
period "something sexual happened every time", and she was paid $300 per visit, "more if I brought friends"
I'm not minimizing what they did, but this particular PA case is *significantly* more extreme (except in extent i.e. victim count). In my estimation, any sex a person perceives that that they said "yes" too in the moment, for whatever reason, is inherently less traumatic that sex you were screaming "STOP!!!! NO!!!!" to, especially if you are ALSO kidnapped, OMFG that is absolutely terrifying to ponder
But that may just be my own estimation
ShazzieB
(21,901 posts)Equally heinous and equally traumatic in different ways, imo.
I definitely agree that their crimes are not identical to this one, but all forms of sexual abuse/assault are terrible and all of those who perpetrate such crimes are the scum of the earth, period.
sop
(16,689 posts)"Jeffrey Epstein is accused of trafficking and sexually abusing young women and girls, some who appeared as young as 11, in a lawsuit filed Wednesday by the government of the U.S. Virgin Islands."
"The late sex offenders planes, helicopters, boat and automobiles transported victims to his private islands in the Caribbean where he raped and held them captive, according to the suit filed in superior court in St. Thomas."
https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2020/1/15/lawsuit-alleges-epstein-trafficked-girls-as-young-as-11
AZJonnie
(2,028 posts)As you've probably gathered, I've followed the whole saga pretty closely, and while I've seen a lot of extreme allegations, there's actually rather a paucity of hard evidence/sworn testimony to back up the more extreme allegations (I don't mean generally, they were guilty of terrible stuff, so please don't misread me on this, *only* the more extreme stuff like 11 year old's, and people held captive, organized cabals of powerful pedos, etc).
In that lawsuit, there were allegations made along those lines, and it's also true that the Estate posthumously settled the case with the USVI that was the origination of these allegations for $105M. But there was no trial, no admission of guilt, and as far as I was able to research, there was not any sworn testimony by the alleged victims, we don't know who they are, etc. And none of the *known* 15 or so victims who've come forward with their stories have made allegations that are this extreme.
So what I should've replied is simply "allegedly". And I do think there's a notable difference between allegations in a 9 digit civil case, settled without a trial or testimony, vs a 13 year old being kidnapped, raped, and discovered in a cage in someone's basement.
And I don't think it should be discounted that Epstein's pilots both testified, under oath, as Federal prosecution witnesses against Maxwell, that Epstein and Maxwell were absolutely not transporting unaccompanied minors apart from Virginia Guiffre, whom they did not know to be a minor at the time, that no sex happened on the plane, etc. Their testimony always weighs heavy on my mind when I think of what may or may not have happened on the plane, or on the island.
Skittles
(168,369 posts)no escape
niyad
(128,175 posts)PufPuf23
(9,645 posts)put Trump in a box in a basement and left him there.
ultralite001
(2,223 posts)How many other 13-year-old girls are missing from Louisiana???
How many young women who were missing have been recovered???
What has Speaker (former Rep) Mike Johnson done about this??? What
have any Louisiana lawmakers done about this???
Where is the outrage???
Louisiana doesnt have a public missing person database, nor does the state
have any law requiring missing to be added to national databases. Closest
thing is The LA Repository of Missing & Unidentified Persons at LSU.
http://identifyla.lsu.edu/index.php
Their site currently lists 177 females between 10 + 15 years of age as "missing"...
Can't help but think this reflects Krasnovian logic: If numbers aren't reported,
they don't exist... Heartbreaking.,..
erronis
(21,801 posts)Stolen innocence...
Childhood destroyed...
Discarded... Extinguished...
May the perps rot in hell for eternity...
watertiger
(9 posts)erronis
(21,801 posts)Warpy
(114,137 posts)so that external regulation will force management to take this shit seriously enough to pull the plug on pedophiles before the regulatory agency pulls the plug on their company.
I just hope that girl gets therapy instead of a beating.
