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erronis

(21,801 posts)
Sat Nov 1, 2025, 01:32 PM 19 hrs ago

Missing Louisiana girl, 13, rescued from box in Pennsylvania basement

Source: The Guardian

Police say Ki-Shawn Crumity, 26, met girl through Snapchat, and charged him with human trafficking and sexual assault

A 13-year-old Louisiana girl who went missing after meeting a man online was found alive in a box at his home several states away in Pennsylvania – along with evidence that she had been sexually assaulted, according to authorities.

Ki-Shawn Crumity, 26, faces charges of human trafficking, sexual assault, unlawful contact with a minor and corruption of a child after police in Pittsburgh said they arrested him on Thursday. He is one of at least three men who had been arrested as of Saturday amid an investigation involving law enforcement agencies in multiple states.

“This child … was groomed, exploited and then sexually abused by strangers who found her online,” Louisiana’s attorney general, Liz Murrill, said in a statement on Friday. “This is just one example of the dangers of social media and of human trafficking.”


Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/01/missing-louisiana-girl-found-in-box-pennsylvania



I'd hate to be a parent in these days. Was one for 2+2 kids 20-40 years ago - very hard even then.
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Missing Louisiana girl, 13, rescued from box in Pennsylvania basement (Original Post) erronis 19 hrs ago OP
Sounds like the kind of thing Epstein and Maxwell did. sop 19 hrs ago #1
It's absolutely abhorent. And now you don't have to go to beauty pagents - just post on social media. erronis 19 hrs ago #2
Sadly, there is nothing at all new about pedophiles using social media to meet and groom potential victims. ☹️ ShazzieB 17 hrs ago #10
It's along the lines but none of Epstein's victims (the known ones anyway) were only 13 AZJonnie 19 hrs ago #3
Epstein and Maxwell used psychological manipulation rather than physical imprisonment to get what they wanted. ShazzieB 17 hrs ago #7
Epstein didn't use basement cages, though his victims were "as young as 11," and he "held them captive" on his island. sop 17 hrs ago #8
I really shouldn't put myself in a position of sounding like I'm defending those assholes, because it's not my intent AZJonnie 14 hrs ago #17
he had them on an island Skittles 1 hr ago #18
I strongly suggest that you read Virginia Giuffre's memoir, "Nobody's Girl". niyad 17 hrs ago #9
The world would be a better place had Epstein and Maxwell PufPuf23 17 hrs ago #12
"Missing Louisiana girl, 13" raises all sorts of red flags... ultralite001 18 hrs ago #4
The numbers don't exist. Just like the girls never existed. Ephemeral crimes that rich peope get away with. erronis 18 hrs ago #5
💔💔💔 ultralite001 18 hrs ago #6
Did Trump pardon him yet? watertiger 17 hrs ago #11
They are getting the office ready for him in the Bureau of Prisons - he has OTJ training already! erronis 17 hrs ago #15
This is another reason social media must be made public utilities Warpy 17 hrs ago #13
Social media must be regulated. In many ways it's become as toxic and destructive as drugs, or guns. sop 17 hrs ago #14
Omg! They found the girl in a box!! But am glad she was found. riversedge 16 hrs ago #16

erronis

(21,801 posts)
2. It's absolutely abhorent. And now you don't have to go to beauty pagents - just post on social media.
Sat Nov 1, 2025, 02:01 PM
19 hrs ago

There won't be any controls placed on this behavior in my lifetime since it involves so many rich people and US/state governments are riddled with enablers (and users.)

I could see some 'religious' movement trying to clean up this but they are frequently purveyors of the same type of horrible actions. Trading one devil for another.

ShazzieB

(21,901 posts)
10. Sadly, there is nothing at all new about pedophiles using social media to meet and groom potential victims. ☹️
Sat Nov 1, 2025, 03:32 PM
17 hrs ago

Remember "To Catch a Predator"? Those episodes were produced and aired from 2004 to 2007, and that stuff was going on for a while before somebody got the idea of using online chatrooms to set traps for scumbags and televise their arrests.

Rich scumbags like Epstein don't need to resort to such things, because their money empowers them to get what they want in other ways.

AZJonnie

(2,028 posts)
3. It's along the lines but none of Epstein's victims (the known ones anyway) were only 13
Sat Nov 1, 2025, 02:04 PM
19 hrs ago

Also I don't think any of them claimed they were physically confined against their will either. Carolyn Andriano, the girl that Maxwell was convicted of trafficking to Epstein, testified she went to Epstein's estate "probably 100 times over the span of years", via "appointment", and of her own accord. She also said that after the "introductory" period "something sexual happened every time", and she was paid $300 per visit, "more if I brought friends"

I'm not minimizing what they did, but this particular PA case is *significantly* more extreme (except in extent i.e. victim count). In my estimation, any sex a person perceives that that they said "yes" too in the moment, for whatever reason, is inherently less traumatic that sex you were screaming "STOP!!!! NO!!!!" to, especially if you are ALSO kidnapped, OMFG that is absolutely terrifying to ponder

But that may just be my own estimation

ShazzieB

(21,901 posts)
7. Epstein and Maxwell used psychological manipulation rather than physical imprisonment to get what they wanted.
Sat Nov 1, 2025, 03:13 PM
17 hrs ago

Equally heinous and equally traumatic in different ways, imo.

I definitely agree that their crimes are not identical to this one, but all forms of sexual abuse/assault are terrible and all of those who perpetrate such crimes are the scum of the earth, period.

sop

(16,689 posts)
8. Epstein didn't use basement cages, though his victims were "as young as 11," and he "held them captive" on his island.
Sat Nov 1, 2025, 03:18 PM
17 hrs ago

"Jeffrey Epstein is accused of trafficking and sexually abusing young women and girls, some who appeared as young as 11, in a lawsuit filed Wednesday by the government of the U.S. Virgin Islands."

"The late sex offender’s planes, helicopters, boat and automobiles transported victims to his private islands in the Caribbean where he raped and held them captive, according to the suit filed in superior court in St. Thomas."

https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2020/1/15/lawsuit-alleges-epstein-trafficked-girls-as-young-as-11

AZJonnie

(2,028 posts)
17. I really shouldn't put myself in a position of sounding like I'm defending those assholes, because it's not my intent
Sat Nov 1, 2025, 06:54 PM
14 hrs ago

As you've probably gathered, I've followed the whole saga pretty closely, and while I've seen a lot of extreme allegations, there's actually rather a paucity of hard evidence/sworn testimony to back up the more extreme allegations (I don't mean generally, they were guilty of terrible stuff, so please don't misread me on this, *only* the more extreme stuff like 11 year old's, and people held captive, organized cabals of powerful pedos, etc).

In that lawsuit, there were allegations made along those lines, and it's also true that the Estate posthumously settled the case with the USVI that was the origination of these allegations for $105M. But there was no trial, no admission of guilt, and as far as I was able to research, there was not any sworn testimony by the alleged victims, we don't know who they are, etc. And none of the *known* 15 or so victims who've come forward with their stories have made allegations that are this extreme.

So what I should've replied is simply "allegedly". And I do think there's a notable difference between allegations in a 9 digit civil case, settled without a trial or testimony, vs a 13 year old being kidnapped, raped, and discovered in a cage in someone's basement.

And I don't think it should be discounted that Epstein's pilots both testified, under oath, as Federal prosecution witnesses against Maxwell, that Epstein and Maxwell were absolutely not transporting unaccompanied minors apart from Virginia Guiffre, whom they did not know to be a minor at the time, that no sex happened on the plane, etc. Their testimony always weighs heavy on my mind when I think of what may or may not have happened on the plane, or on the island.

PufPuf23

(9,645 posts)
12. The world would be a better place had Epstein and Maxwell
Sat Nov 1, 2025, 03:36 PM
17 hrs ago

put Trump in a box in a basement and left him there.

ultralite001

(2,223 posts)
4. "Missing Louisiana girl, 13" raises all sorts of red flags...
Sat Nov 1, 2025, 02:42 PM
18 hrs ago

How many other 13-year-old girls are missing from Louisiana???
How many young women who were missing have been recovered???

What has Speaker (former Rep) Mike Johnson done about this??? What
have any Louisiana lawmakers done about this???

Where is the outrage???

Louisiana doesn’t have a public missing person database, nor does the state
have any law requiring missing to be added to national databases. Closest
thing is The LA Repository of Missing & Unidentified Persons at LSU.

http://identifyla.lsu.edu/index.php

Their site currently lists 177 females between 10 + 15 years of age as "missing"...

Can't help but think this reflects Krasnovian logic: If numbers aren't reported,
they don't exist... Heartbreaking.,..

erronis

(21,801 posts)
5. The numbers don't exist. Just like the girls never existed. Ephemeral crimes that rich peope get away with.
Sat Nov 1, 2025, 02:57 PM
18 hrs ago

ultralite001

(2,223 posts)
6. 💔💔💔
Sat Nov 1, 2025, 03:07 PM
18 hrs ago

Stolen innocence...

Childhood destroyed...

Discarded... Extinguished...

May the perps rot in hell for eternity...

erronis

(21,801 posts)
15. They are getting the office ready for him in the Bureau of Prisons - he has OTJ training already!
Sat Nov 1, 2025, 04:01 PM
17 hrs ago

Warpy

(114,137 posts)
13. This is another reason social media must be made public utilities
Sat Nov 1, 2025, 03:43 PM
17 hrs ago

so that external regulation will force management to take this shit seriously enough to pull the plug on pedophiles before the regulatory agency pulls the plug on their company.

I just hope that girl gets therapy instead of a beating.

sop

(16,689 posts)
14. Social media must be regulated. In many ways it's become as toxic and destructive as drugs, or guns.
Sat Nov 1, 2025, 03:51 PM
17 hrs ago
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