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BumRushDaShow

(153,292 posts)
Wed May 28, 2025, 04:44 AM Wednesday

'Rand's Not Gonna Vote for Anything, Ever': Republican Senator Says Paul Is a Hard 'No' on GOP Bill

Source: MEDIAite

May 27th, 2025, 5:05 pm


Sen. John Kennedy (R-LA) offered a blunt assessment of Sen. Rand Paul’s (R-KY) position on the Republican spending bill currently being considered by the Senate.

Last week, the House narrowly passed a major spending bill that would extend the 2017 tax cuts while cutting Medicaid to help offset some of the costs. Still, the Congressional Budget Office said if enacted, the legislation will result in an “increase in the federal deficit of $3.8 trillion attributable to tax changes, including extending provisions of the 2017 tax act.”

That figure is a nonstarter for Paul, a longtime deficit hawk who has railed against the bill. Kennedy appeared on Tuesday’s Kudlow on Fox Business, where he was asked to give an update on where matters stand.

“We’ll end up passing something. I don’t know what that something will look like,” Kennedy said. “We do need to work towards spending less in this bill.”

Read more: https://www.mediaite.com/media/tv/rands-not-gonna-vote-for-anything-ever-republican-senator-says-paul-is-a-hard-no-on-gop-bill/

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'Rand's Not Gonna Vote for Anything, Ever': Republican Senator Says Paul Is a Hard 'No' on GOP Bill (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Wednesday OP
He's going to choose America over G.O.P. MAGATism? BoRaGard Wednesday #1
No. His no is because the bill doesn't cut spending enough. Wiz Imp Wednesday #4
Ahhhh so. Thanks wiz. BoRaGard Wednesday #5
until he says yes. Javaman Wednesday #2
He won't have to BumRushDaShow Wednesday #3
No way. Collins & Murkowski (along with others) problems with the bill are completely different than Wiz Imp Wednesday #6
You're trying to ascribe logic when it's just craven self interest PSPS Wednesday #7
I'm saying Paul & Johnson will vote NO because they know it won't matter. Wiz Imp Wednesday #8
He also knows how many people in this state are on Medicaid, Bayard Wednesday #10
That doesn't matter to him. He knows he'll get primaried out of a job. That's all that matters. PSPS Wednesday #11
Johnson IS a MAGat BumRushDaShow Wednesday #9
He won't vote Yes Polybius Wednesday #12
maybe, I don't trust any of them, especially Paul nt Javaman Wednesday #13

Wiz Imp

(5,180 posts)
4. No. His no is because the bill doesn't cut spending enough.
Wed May 28, 2025, 08:27 AM
Wednesday

He wants the bill to be EVEN MORE CRUEL AND HEARTLESS! He knows he can do this and stick tohis guns because they can still pass the bill without him. The question remains as to what changes will be made to get the votes of people who are at least somewhat concerned about the Medicaid cuts.

Javaman

(63,890 posts)
2. until he says yes.
Wed May 28, 2025, 07:47 AM
Wednesday

they just have to match the price he's asking.

rand knows a good grift when he sees it. and he's going to milk it for all it's worth.

BumRushDaShow

(153,292 posts)
3. He won't have to
Wed May 28, 2025, 08:15 AM
Wednesday

He can be the "fall guy" along with Concerned Susan and Murkowski, so they would only need to bring Vance in to break a tie.

IOW, always-lying blabbermouth Ron Johnson will go right along with it.

Wiz Imp

(5,180 posts)
6. No way. Collins & Murkowski (along with others) problems with the bill are completely different than
Wed May 28, 2025, 08:32 AM
Wednesday

Paul's & Johnson's. Changes will be made to the bill to get the votes of Collins, Murkowski and others (that can probably be done with relatively small tweaks). Paul and Johnson will NOT vote for the final bill - whatever it ends up looking like. They would only vote for it if there were significant additional spending cuts which would lose the votes of several more Republicans because even they are smart enough to know it would be political suicide.

PSPS

(14,563 posts)
7. You're trying to ascribe logic when it's just craven self interest
Wed May 28, 2025, 08:42 AM
Wednesday

All these people care about is staying in office. The same people will always threaten a "no" and maybe even vote "no" but only because they know it won't matter. This is how republicans keep their seats in purple districts and states.

Wiz Imp

(5,180 posts)
8. I'm saying Paul & Johnson will vote NO because they know it won't matter.
Wed May 28, 2025, 09:04 AM
Wednesday

They are the only 2 speaking out about the bill increasing the deficit too much and opposing the debt limit increase. The 2 of them alone can't prevent the bill from passing so they know they can stick to their so-called "principles" and not endanger a bill ultimately passing. While several others have expressed issues with the, none of them have been extremely loud about it. So it will be much easier to likely make some relatively minor tweaks to the bill to get everyone else on board, than to try to appease Paul & Johnson.

Bayard

(25,265 posts)
10. He also knows how many people in this state are on Medicaid,
Wed May 28, 2025, 12:13 PM
Wednesday

And worried about Medicare/Social Security.

PSPS

(14,563 posts)
11. That doesn't matter to him. He knows he'll get primaried out of a job. That's all that matters.
Wed May 28, 2025, 12:40 PM
Wednesday

If trump says vote for this other guy (in the primary,) maga will do that and he won't even get to a general election.

BumRushDaShow

(153,292 posts)
9. Johnson IS a MAGat
Wed May 28, 2025, 09:25 AM
Wednesday

and will eventually "do as he's told", just like Lindsey Graham.

Paul, Collins, and Murkowski have ALWAYS "gone their own ways" (John McCain used to call it "being a maverick" ) with controversial stuff like this.

The difference here would be what VERSION of the bill is offered and if Thune sees that there are more than 3 opposed to the House's version, then they will CHANGE that bill to at least have no more than 3 oppose it, and go with that.

They would then need to eventually create some kind of "Joint Conference Committee" between the 2 chambers to reconcile the thing between the 2 Chambers.

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