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BumRushDaShow

(150,860 posts)
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 02:21 PM Mar 12

US pauses water-sharing negotiations with Canada over Columbia River

Source: The Guardian

Wed 12 Mar 2025 12.00 EDT
Last modified on Wed 12 Mar 2025 12.19 EDT


The United States has paused negotiations with Canada on a key water-sharing treaty as Donald Trump continues both his threats to annex his northern neighbour and to upend major agreements governing relations between the two counties. British Columbia’s energy ministry said officials south of the border were “conducting a broad review” of the Columbia River Treaty, the 61-year-old pact that governs transnational flood control, power generation and water supply.

The sprawling Columbia River, which originates in south-eastern British Columbia and terminates in the Pacific Ocean on the Oregon-Washington border, is one of the largest watersheds on the continent. The immense volume of water that moves along its 1,200-mile (1,900km) route produces roughly 40% of US hydroelectric power and nearly half the hydropower in BC.

The treaty first came into effect in 1964, after devastating floods nearly two decades before that destroyed Oregon’s second-largest city and swaths of southern British Columbia. Under the terms of the agreement, Canada must control the flow of the Columbia River through its network of dams to ensure US hydropower generators receive enough water and to prevent flooding. Those benefits are worth roughly $200m (C$288m) annually for the province.

For its part, the US must also give Canada half the additional potential hydroelectric power produced by dams, which it sells at market rate. Under former president Joe Biden, the two countries reached an in-principle deal on a new version of the decades-old treaty in July, ahead of the September expiration deadline of the treaty. Despite a concerted push on both sides to finalize a deal before Trump took office, however, the final details of the treaty remain unfinished, with only a three-year interim agreement in place.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/mar/12/us-canada-columbia-river-water



https://www.nwd.usace.army.mil/crwm/columbia-river-treaty/

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US pauses water-sharing negotiations with Canada over Columbia River (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Mar 12 OP
Why all this bullying against Canada?............. Lovie777 Mar 12 #1
Sounds like a leftover pissing match with Trudeau (who is gone now) BumRushDaShow Mar 12 #3
It is what he did to all his small vendors and applegrove Mar 12 #4
It's the Only "Skill" He Is Confident in Utilizing in Public, The Roux Comes First Mar 12 #13
Donald Trump continues both his threats to annex his northern neighbour and to upend major agreements governing elleng Mar 12 #2
This Doesn't Make Sense North Coast Lawyer Mar 12 #5
No, the 'USA' is NOT trying to blow up a treaty, d tmp IS BLOWING UP the US's relationship with Canada. elleng Mar 12 #6
trump don't care. It's all about appearances for him... Wounded Bear Mar 12 #8
Yep that water could re-directed if he wants to continue Bev54 Mar 12 #15
This is insane. mommymarine2003 Mar 12 #7
Fishing too Blackjackdavey Mar 12 #17
That's for sure. We live just a few miles from the Bonneville Dam. We love to go see the fish hatchery there, as well mommymarine2003 Mar 12 #20
Until Friday morning at 1:30 a.m. via TruthSocial? EarthFirst Mar 12 #9
TRUMP WANTS TO ANNEX CANADA Prairie Gates Mar 12 #10
If they negotiate admitting the 13 provinces and territories as states... Thunderbeast Mar 12 #12
Let me make this perfectly clear Bev54 Mar 12 #16
Jesus Prairie Gates Mar 12 #19
I am sorry that my post was not sarcastic enough to be obvious! Thunderbeast Mar 12 #21
Posted on DU this a.m. jeffreyi Mar 12 #18
He is just angry because they won't open the faucet.... Thunderbeast Mar 12 #11
"Note to cartographer...There are several more dams on the Columbia than shown." BumRushDaShow Mar 12 #14
Where's the faucet going down to California? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 15 #22

applegrove

(125,704 posts)
4. It is what he did to all his small vendors and
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 02:35 PM
Mar 12

construction firms when he was building things. Bully them till he gets more than what was initially agreed to. And they get less.

The Roux Comes First

(1,668 posts)
13. It's the Only "Skill" He Is Confident in Utilizing in Public,
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 03:36 PM
Mar 12

Given that actual "negotiation" typically relies on at least a rudimentary understanding of empathy and compromise.

elleng

(139,192 posts)
2. Donald Trump continues both his threats to annex his northern neighbour and to upend major agreements governing
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 02:28 PM
Mar 12

relations between the two counties.

5. This Doesn't Make Sense
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 02:50 PM
Mar 12

The USA is trying to blow up a treaty that protects the USA regarding a river that originates in Canada and whose flow Canada controls. WTF? Talk about putting a gun to your own head.

elleng

(139,192 posts)
6. No, the 'USA' is NOT trying to blow up a treaty, d tmp IS BLOWING UP the US's relationship with Canada.
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 02:57 PM
Mar 12

Bev54

(12,384 posts)
15. Yep that water could re-directed if he wants to continue
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 03:51 PM
Mar 12

His bullshit, then we could just sell more electricity south.

mommymarine2003

(320 posts)
7. This is insane.
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 02:58 PM
Mar 12

As a transplanted Washingtonian now living just a few miles from the Columbia River in Oregon, this river is the lifeblood for the Pacific Northwest. Trump is trying to destroy everything. Eastern Washington is mainly red, but the farming communities depend on this river.

Blackjackdavey

(204 posts)
17. Fishing too
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 04:10 PM
Mar 12

The fishing communities also depend on this river. And the shipping communities for that matter.

mommymarine2003

(320 posts)
20. That's for sure. We live just a few miles from the Bonneville Dam. We love to go see the fish hatchery there, as well
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 05:34 PM
Mar 12

as the sturgeon and always witnessing the power of the water going over the dam.

Canada gave up land/farmland to be used instead for flood mitigation to help with the flooding that occurs down the river. Canada could always take that land back for its original use. What would that do to everything downstream?

Prairie Gates

(4,860 posts)
10. TRUMP WANTS TO ANNEX CANADA
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 03:14 PM
Mar 12

It's not a thing with Trudeau. It's not because he's nickel and diming the Canadians on deals.

He really and truly wants territorial expansion to include all of Canada.

It is not a joke. It is not a bluff. It is not some petty grudge.

It is deadly serious geopolitics, and the sooner we stop the bullshit, the sooner we can formulate strategies against it.

Thunderbeast

(3,635 posts)
12. If they negotiate admitting the 13 provinces and territories as states...
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 03:33 PM
Mar 12

...we might have a conversation.

26 new senators...probably at least 18 liberals.

Might make sense! Add the maple leaf to the stars and stripes!

Bev54

(12,384 posts)
16. Let me make this perfectly clear
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 03:54 PM
Mar 12

We do not want to join the US, not now, not ever. We like our own country. You will have to clean up your own political mess.

Thunderbeast

(3,635 posts)
21. I am sorry that my post was not sarcastic enough to be obvious!
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 07:11 PM
Mar 12

Canada MUST remain a sovereign neighbor and friend. I have traveled from the Rue de Champlain in Quebec City to the bawdy taverns of Yellowknife. I enjoyed every kilometer.

I would not wish MAGA culture on any of my friends to the north.

Thunderbeast

(3,635 posts)
11. He is just angry because they won't open the faucet....
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 03:29 PM
Mar 12

...that takes the river through a magic pipeline to California's Central Valley and Los Angeles.

Note to cartographer...There are several more dams on the Columbia than shown.

BumRushDaShow

(150,860 posts)
14. "Note to cartographer...There are several more dams on the Columbia than shown."
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 03:49 PM
Mar 12

The map image is from the Army Corps of Engineers. lol

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