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BumRushDaShow

(150,929 posts)
Sun Mar 9, 2025, 03:51 AM Mar 9

Trump's orders targeting law firms raise constitutional concerns, experts say

Source: Reuters

March 8, 2025 4:10 PM EST Updated 11 hours ago


WASHINGTON, March 8 (Reuters) - President Donald Trump's executive orders terminating security clearances and taking other actions against two prominent law firms may violate constitutional protections and represent exceptional acts of retribution against lawyers who have crossed him in the past, according to legal experts.

The two firms targeted by the Republican president have represented Trump adversaries. Perkins Coie represented the campaign of 2016 Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton, who Trump defeated in his first presidential run.

Covington & Burling currently represents Jack Smith, the special counsel appointed during Democratic former President Joe Biden's administration who brought criminal charges against Trump in two cases.

Legal experts interviewed by Reuters said the manner in which Trump targeted the firms could run afoul of the U.S. Constitution's First Amendment protections against government abridgment of speech and Fifth Amendment guarantee of due process - a requirement for the government to use a fair legal process.

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trumps-orders-targeting-law-firms-raise-constitutional-concerns-experts-say-2025-03-08/

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AmericaUnderSiege

(777 posts)
1. This is gonna get a lot funnier before it gets better.
Sun Mar 9, 2025, 04:17 AM
Mar 9

The legal profession is all that's kept this animal above his own excrement this whole time. They're not going along with Project 2025's euthanasia of the Judiciary.

travelingthrulife

(2,081 posts)
2. 'Legal experts'...apparently it doesn't matter if it is unconstitutional because
Sun Mar 9, 2025, 10:14 AM
Mar 9

legal experts aren't doing anything to stop it.

 

AmericaUnderSiege

(777 posts)
4. America will get our courts back. We've done it before.
Sun Mar 9, 2025, 03:20 PM
Mar 9

With full judicial assent, this country was on the way to the garbage heap for different reasons in both the 1850s and early 1900s. Somehow in between and after we clawed it back and regained our honor.

We'll do it again, because that's the job.

LetMyPeopleVote

(161,717 posts)
5. MaddowBlog-Jamie Raskin calls the White House's campaign against law firms 'dangerous as hell'
Sun Mar 9, 2025, 06:23 PM
Mar 9

When Donald Trump signed an executive order targeting a private law firm, it was seen as an outrageous abuse. It didn’t stop him from doing it again.
https://bsky.app/profile/deec00p1953.bsky.social/post/3ljt4xsyrt22v



https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/jamie-raskin-calls-white-houses-campaign-law-firms-dangerous-hell-rcna195392

Donald Trump and his team weren’t content to simply go after former special counsel Jack Smith, they also targeted career Justice Department officials who worked on Smith’s team. There was no evidence they’d done anything wrong or failed to do their jobs effectively, but they were a stop on the president’s revenge tour......

And then he did it again. The Washington Post reported:

In an Oval Office ceremony, the president signed an executive order hitting the large international law firm Perkins Coie with a sweeping directive that bans the federal government from hiring it, or from using contractors who work with it, except in limited circumstances. The order also bars Perkins Coie employees from entering federal buildings and suspends their security clearances.


In politics, Perkins Coie is known for, among other prominent things, representing Hillary Clinton.

The Post’s report added, “The move could have a chilling effect on law firms’ willingness to take on clients and cases that run counter to the Trump administration, challenging a fundamental tenet of the rule of law in the United States that everyone should have access to legal representation, experts said.”

Democratic Rep. Jamie Raskin of Maryland, the ranking member of the House Judiciary Committee, issued a statement describing the White House’s campaign as “dangerous as hell.”.....

The Democratic congressman concluded, “By threatening to seek costs and damages from private litigants, Donald Trump is trying to scare Americans out of court. Thanks to our Founders, we have a right to get lawyers to challenge the Administration’s blatantly unlawful efforts to freeze funds to essential government programs like wildfire prevention, scientific research and food assistance. We have a right to get brave lawyers to challenge MAGA and DOGE when they fire thousands of government workers and shut down agencies that defend American consumers against frauds and scams.”

Time will tell how and whether the relevant firms respond to the Republican’s offensive, but Raskin’s point is a good one. Circling back to our recent coverage, I can appreciate why many have grown inured — to Trump’s pettiness, to his abuses, to his fixation on retaliatory revenge, etc. — but it’s worth pausing to appreciate that steps like these aren’t supposed to be part of politics in the United States. The president is using the power of his office to punish private law firms, not because they did something improper or illegal, but because he disapproves of the firms taking on matters that affected him personally.

Mark Zaid, a Washington lawyer who also had his security clearance revoked by Trump, told the Times last week that the president’s first executive order on this was “a disgraceful affront to the entire legal and national security system.”

The fact that Trump then did it again makes matters vastly worse.

LetMyPeopleVote

(161,717 posts)
6. One reason trump is mad at Perkins Coie-this firm and Mark Elias collected and reviewed 7000 trump's lawsuits
Sun Mar 9, 2025, 06:47 PM
Mar 9

I have been volunteering on voter protection efforts since 2004 where I went to Florida as part of the Kerry Edwards Voter Protection team. In 2016 I was part of the Clinton Victory Counsel team that was led by Marc Elias and Perkins Coie. I still remember having to sign a confidentiality agreement as part of my efforts.

One of the efforts that I worked on was the review of 7,000 trump lawsuits. Perkins Coie put all of the pleadings in these lawsuits into a database where volunteer attorneys reviewed the pleadings and did summaries for use in opposition research. I remember reviewing pleadings for over 100 lawsuits and doing summaries of these lawsuits.

I was pleased to see these summaries are in the DNC database.



New from me: The DNC research team has mined thousands of lawsuits from 50 states as part of a massive new research trove on President Trump that will be weaponized through pols and reporters in key states.


https://www.axios.com/2019/09/08/democratic-national-committee-trump-2020-opposition-research
Inside Democrats' 2020 Trump war room

The DNC research team has mined thousands of lawsuits from nearly 50 states as part of a massive new trove on President Trump that will be weaponized through pols and reporters in key battlegrounds.

Why it matters: This new plan shows what Democrats think Trump's biggest vulnerabilities will be. And unlike in 2016, Trump now has a policy record.

Details: The research includes roughly 7,000 lawsuits, as well an extensive document detailing every time then-candidate Trump told supporters at his 2016 campaign rallies that Mexico would pay for the wall.

Marc Elias and Perkins Coie spent a great deal of time and money pulling all of the pleadings in all of these lawsuits. Trump is still mad at Elias and Perkins Coie for these efforts. trump evidently blames Elias and Perkins Coie for losing the 2020 election and is taking revenge now.

BumRushDaShow

(150,929 posts)
7. It's a shame that he now has the "deep pocket" of the federal government
Sun Mar 9, 2025, 07:15 PM
Mar 9

to do that "revenge tour".

mpcamb

(3,061 posts)
8. "Raises concerns", "May be illegal", "Could infringe"... Fer chrissake SAY IT!
Sun Mar 9, 2025, 07:23 PM
Mar 9

THEY'RE NEXT GOING TO ELIMINATE YOUR RIGHT TO SAY IT,
SO goddamn it, SAY it!
They're BREAKING THE LAW and will continue to till you or somebody
SAYS the line has been crossed! They BROKE the LAW!
SPIT IT OUT!!

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