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Celerity

(55,412 posts)
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 01:32 AM Yesterday

Hillary Clinton Endorses Trump's Board of Peace for Gaza


Why would the former Democratic presidential nominee endorse one of Trump’s more grotesque ventures?

https://prospect.org/2026/06/30/hillary-clinton-trump-board-of-peace-gaza/


President Donald Trump, center, with Vice President JD Vance to his left, and Secretary of State Marco Rubio to his right, arrives for a Board of Peace meeting at the U.S. Institute of Peace, February 19, 2026, in Washington. Credit: Mark Schiefelbein/AP Photo

On Saturday, The Guardian published a leaked draft memo that would give Trump’s so-called “Board of Peace” and its contractors in Gaza blanket legal immunity from any charges of wrongdoing. The draft language would also let the organization obtain public property in Gaza “free of charge.” This is only the latest example of the crass power grab in Trump’s Gaza peace plan, which U.S. representatives strong-armed the U.N. Security Council into endorsing back in November 2025.

Meanwhile, on June 18, Hillary Rodham Clinton published an absolutely bizarre op-ed piece in the Financial Times endorsing Trump’s Board of Peace and its grand plans for Gaza. The op-ed was titled “The World May Not Like Trump’s Gaza Plan—but There Is No Alternative.” Neither article has gotten much attention in U.S. media.

Clinton wrote, “There is no alternative framework waiting in the wings. No rival coalition is quietly preparing a more viable proposal. The 20-point plan is not the one many of us would have drafted, but it remains the only framework backed by sufficient leverage, political engagement and potential resources to move the parties towards implementation.” Say what? This is total malarkey. There had better be alternatives.

Trump’s Gaza design, a real estate grab masquerading as a peace plan and economic reconstruction, can move forward only in the context of total Israeli domination of Gaza and victory over Hamas and Hezbollah, goals that look less likely by the day. The Board of Peace epitomizes Trump’s corrupt conflation of his family financial interests with U.S. foreign policy.

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https://www.ft.com/content/2472e584-758b-4a3f-83d1-9fba042a9312

https://archive.ph/zuLUs

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Hillary Clinton Endorses Trump's Board of Peace for Gaza (Original Post) Celerity Yesterday OP
The plan is another "Perpetual Money and Real Estate Machine" for those "Epstein Class" scoundrels. usonian Yesterday #1
i don't get it. why the hell is she inserting herself into this? did she HAVE to write something for the orleans Yesterday #2
The Prospect article suggests she's doing it as a favour to Tony Blair muriel_volestrangler 21 hrs ago #15
Good grief Tony Blair favor? Nanjeanne 20 hrs ago #22
It's a measure of the awfulness of the "Board of Peace" that Blair may be the least corrupt and RW person on it muriel_volestrangler 19 hrs ago #28
If only the U.S. didn't put all those people in power... yardwork 16 hrs ago #64
They're Trump's chosen board. Yes, the US is responsible for its makeup muriel_volestrangler 16 hrs ago #67
Correct. We made our choice in November 2024. yardwork 16 hrs ago #68
To use the famous Anglo-Saxon litotes... ananda 16 hrs ago #65
Hillary has been speaking up quite a lot on issues lately Grim Chieftain 16 hrs ago #70
This is edhopper Yesterday #3
depressing indeed, but not so shocking, at least for me Celerity Yesterday #4
Please wake me, I gotta be dreaming. oasis Yesterday #5
No friend, I think it's called a nightmare Grim Chieftain 16 hrs ago #72
Hillary Clinton has been right about Trump for over a decade. yardwork 16 hrs ago #74
Well, we'll have to agree to disagree Grim Chieftain 16 hrs ago #76
The Financial Times op ed makes sense, calls for different control structure delisen 16 hrs ago #75
So he bumbled into a Inkey Yesterday #6
It doesn't look like an endorsement as much as it does another hard-to-accept lesson in reality for some. W_HAMILTON Yesterday #7
Yes, of course Cirsium Yesterday #8
Your words all appear in grammatical order, but they make no sense. muriel_volestrangler 22 hrs ago #13
But they are a tiny minority of Americans that swung the election to Trump. W_HAMILTON 19 hrs ago #29
It seems a bit of an obsession to take a Hillary Clinton op-ed in the Financial Times muriel_volestrangler 19 hrs ago #32
The words make sense. The same refusal to accept reality that gave us Trump is about to leave Gaza to his whims. SunSeeker 19 hrs ago #30
Don't capitulate to Trump. muriel_volestrangler 19 hrs ago #36
Ok, how do we achieve that? yardwork 18 hrs ago #46
I disagree that cooperating with the Board of Peace, led for life by Trump, is the only alternative. muriel_volestrangler 18 hrs ago #47
Who is in power now who can boycott Israel? yardwork 18 hrs ago #48
You do the boycott yourself. You look for decent Israeli politicians yourself muriel_volestrangler 18 hrs ago #49
My tiny little boycott of a few Israeli products is nothing. yardwork 17 hrs ago #52
Obviously we agree we don't elect politicians who support Trump muriel_volestrangler 17 hrs ago #55
U.S. politics is structured differently than Britain's. yardwork 17 hrs ago #59
Boom. yardwork 16 hrs ago #63
Who here thought "Trump was just fine?" InAbLuEsTaTe 11 hrs ago #88
Disgusting. David__77 23 hrs ago #9
Your 4th paragraph. I agree. harumph 18 hrs ago #42
My response would get me banned malaise 23 hrs ago #10
+1 There are things I would like to say too. Emile 21 hrs ago #16
That's where I am too Bettie 19 hrs ago #27
Mine too!! InAbLuEsTaTe 19 hrs ago #31
Same here PatSeg 17 hrs ago #51
Meh! malaise 17 hrs ago #53
Well, regarding this particular individual PatSeg 15 hrs ago #78
Likewise. H2O Man 15 hrs ago #77
Maybe Hillary knows more about Trump's Gaza plan than the rest of us? sop 15 hrs ago #82
Right white supremacists Whip-poor-will 22 hrs ago #11
I think of the 22 Democratic Senators who voted to confirm John Roberts and just cry Ponietz 22 hrs ago #12
What a revealing list. Emile 21 hrs ago #17
Here are the 22 Dems who voted to confirm Roberts: Celerity 21 hrs ago #19
Bingaman greatly disappointed on this vote -- he focused his career on energy and natural resources and, get this: Ponietz 18 hrs ago #44
Clarence Thomas was nominated by GHW Bush malaise 21 hrs ago #20
Obama was a no mountain grammy 20 hrs ago #23
When did HRC turn into Neville Chamberlin? no_hypocrisy 21 hrs ago #14
Seriously. InAbLuEsTaTe 19 hrs ago #33
Are we allowed to criticize DEMOCRAT HRC? Just wondering..... ColoringFool 21 hrs ago #18
Will never forget it... or forgive it. InAbLuEsTaTe 19 hrs ago #34
This message was self-deleted by its author tman 21 hrs ago #21
Extremely disappointing. La Coliniere 20 hrs ago #24
It's a big club, and you ain't in it. n/t flvegan 20 hrs ago #25
As Groucho said... GJGCA 19 hrs ago #26
"What does Goldman think?" Kid Berwyn 19 hrs ago #35
The Epstein Class malaise 19 hrs ago #37
Same class that looted the banks in 2008. Kid Berwyn 19 hrs ago #38
You nailed it malaise 19 hrs ago #39
She discussed this with David Remnick recently but all people focused on was her brief Joe Biden comments Quiet Em 18 hrs ago #40
Thanks for this information. It saved my respect oasis 18 hrs ago #41
You are very welcome Quiet Em 18 hrs ago #43
Thank you. betsuni 16 hrs ago #73
Thank you. sheshe2 7 hrs ago #90
I just read the entire statement and it isn't an endorsement. yardwork 18 hrs ago #45
As usual. She's right. At this point, our choices are limited and something needs to be done. QueerDuck 18 hrs ago #50
Thanks for summing it up succinctly. yardwork 17 hrs ago #54
She knows the "Peace Board" can be replaced leftstreet 17 hrs ago #56
Those who have been most critical of her for saying this, seem to be the same ones... QueerDuck 17 hrs ago #60
Well said. yardwork 16 hrs ago #62
The Board of Peace cannot be replaced; Trump is its head for life muriel_volestrangler 16 hrs ago #66
Once Trump isn't president, the Board of Peace won't be especially relevant EdmondDantes_ 15 hrs ago #85
Maybe she knows he's terminal? leftstreet 14 hrs ago #86
Progressives vs. Democrats MorbidButterflyTat 15 hrs ago #79
Wow 😳 MustLoveBeagles 17 hrs ago #57
I wonder if Hillary Clinton might be blinded by an assumption karynnj 17 hrs ago #58
If you read her op-ed I think you'll see that she is not promoting hegemony. yardwork 17 hrs ago #61
I admit I read the sections you posted after posting karynnj 16 hrs ago #69
I don't think Clinton believes it's possible to reason with Trump. yardwork 16 hrs ago #71
Yes it does. AloeVera 15 hrs ago #81
For some reason this reminds me of the "facts on the ground" strategy. AloeVera 15 hrs ago #80
Sorry, no one gets to call themselves Rob H. 15 hrs ago #83
"Hillary Clinton endorses a Plan designed to thwart a future Palestinian state." AloeVera 15 hrs ago #84
Sanders won't endorse the Board of Peace. ALBliberal 14 hrs ago #87
Thinking it through, I'm giving Hill the benefit oasis 9 hrs ago #89

usonian

(27,262 posts)
1. The plan is another "Perpetual Money and Real Estate Machine" for those "Epstein Class" scoundrels.
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 01:54 AM
Yesterday

Lest we forget:



It's just a club to rape an entire nation.

"Well, it's the best we've got" was applied to Mussolini and Hitler.

It gets my un-endorsement.

orleans

(37,507 posts)
2. i don't get it. why the hell is she inserting herself into this? did she HAVE to write something for the
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 02:15 AM
Yesterday

financial times and get it published? no.
so why is she bringing this up--and endorsing trump's plan?

muriel_volestrangler

(106,922 posts)
15. The Prospect article suggests she's doing it as a favour to Tony Blair
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 07:02 AM
21 hrs ago

in the hope he'll do something for her in return (his "foundation" has a lot of money coming in from dubious sources, and it can set up endless boards, institutes, and other places where a famous person can get a cushy job for spouting neoliberal platitudes).

muriel_volestrangler

(106,922 posts)
28. It's a measure of the awfulness of the "Board of Peace" that Blair may be the least corrupt and RW person on it
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 09:10 AM
19 hrs ago

It's full of people who are the last ones you'd want to see in charge of Gaza.

muriel_volestrangler

(106,922 posts)
67. They're Trump's chosen board. Yes, the US is responsible for its makeup
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 12:14 PM
16 hrs ago

since it is responsible for Trump.

yardwork

(70,052 posts)
68. Correct. We made our choice in November 2024.
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 12:16 PM
16 hrs ago

Everything that has happened since is a direct and predictable consequence of that very bad choice.

And it's quite unfair that the bad choice made by US voters has an outsize impact on the rest of the world. I fear there will come a reckoning.

Grim Chieftain

(2,345 posts)
70. Hillary has been speaking up quite a lot on issues lately
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 12:23 PM
16 hrs ago

I'm not sure what that's all about, even the former presidents are keeping fairly quiet. Yes, she does have the right to do so, but still, it's a bit curious.

Grim Chieftain

(2,345 posts)
72. No friend, I think it's called a nightmare
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 12:29 PM
16 hrs ago

I hope Hillary doesn't fall victim to this wretched cabal.

yardwork

(70,052 posts)
74. Hillary Clinton has been right about Trump for over a decade.
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 12:37 PM
16 hrs ago

She's probably one of the clearest sighted people we have. She knows exactly what a monster Trump is, and she's been warning us about him since 2015.

The last thing she's doing is "falling victim" to his cabal.

delisen

(7,506 posts)
75. The Financial Times op ed makes sense, calls for different control structure
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 12:39 PM
16 hrs ago

It is up to those concerned for the people of Gaza. to present an alternative plan or insist upon necessary changes to this Board of Peace.

That includes people posting on this board, the DSA, Bernie Sanders, and a number of organizations.

Meanwhile the slaughter and misery continue.

When Sanders urged us to vote for Harris he said he would work with her on a plan for Gaza. She did not win but we still need a plan.

Needs to be done even though Harris not president.

W_HAMILTON

(10,497 posts)
7. It doesn't look like an endorsement as much as it does another hard-to-accept lesson in reality for some.
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 02:51 AM
Yesterday

It seems like many of the same people on the left that thought Trump was just fine when letting him get elected over Hillary/Kamala because they wanted to """teach Democrats a lesson""" are now upset when Hillary points out that there are no other viable alternatives at the moment.

Or is letting the war in Gaza wage on for several more years while they wait for a Democrat to fly in and save the day their grand plan? Because we could have cut to the chase and elected one in the first place and spared our country and the world more MAGA bullshit.

muriel_volestrangler

(106,922 posts)
13. Your words all appear in grammatical order, but they make no sense.
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 06:35 AM
22 hrs ago

There is no connection between 'Trump was just fine when letting him get elected over Hillary/Kamala because they wanted to ""teach Democrats a lesson""', and thinking that Trump's Gaza scam is not the only viable alternative.

Thinking that Trump's Gaza scam is a scam is, for instance, a position held by most of the world - the governments of the EU, UK and many more, for instance. Thinking that losing an election to Trump would "teach Democrats a lesson" is an idiotic position held by a tiny minority of Americans who see elections as performative rather than a choice for the future of the country.

You are equating about 5% of US voters to about 5 billion people worldwide. And, you know, DUers are in the 5 billion, but not the 5%.

W_HAMILTON

(10,497 posts)
29. But they are a tiny minority of Americans that swung the election to Trump.
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 09:11 AM
19 hrs ago

And that set us down this course in the first place.

It should be noted that the organization responsible for this article is one of those that frequently attack Democrats from the left.

Finally, it doesn't matter what the entire world wants. Sadly, it's left up to Trump and Netanyahu at this point, with Netanyahu seemingly willing to veto Trump if it takes that.

It's almost like Israel is its own sovereign nation and can do as they want, unless the world is willing to step in and stop them. And the world isn't ready to do that and Trump certainly won't be, not as long as he had a significant financial interest in the outcome.

muriel_volestrangler

(106,922 posts)
32. It seems a bit of an obsession to take a Hillary Clinton op-ed in the Financial Times
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 09:24 AM
19 hrs ago

as a rebuke to a few American losers who are fairly anti-capitalist and will not be reading it. No, the world is not about what you blame the 2024 US presidential election loss on.

Yes, it does matter what the world wants. If you think the fate of Gaza is "up to Trump and Netanyahu", then you are capitulating to them, like certain law firms and universities capitulated to Trump - "oh well, he's powerful, I want a quiet life, let him do what he wants, I'll use this as a way to blame some people I don't like and who were actually pretty powerless themselves".

The American Prospect was full behind Kamala. It had, for instance, an explicit warning that the US needed to support her, and that not voting for her would not have fixed anything about Gaza:

With polls showing that Kamala Harris and Donald Trump are running even in nearly every swing state, this election will turn on the decisions of very small subsets of voters. One of those subsets surely isn’t contemplating voting for Trump, but may end up electing him anyway.

I refer to those voters so understandably appalled by Israel’s war on Gaza and the toll it’s taken in innocent lives that they may not vote, or vote for Jill Stein, as a way of protesting the Biden administration’s continued provision of arms for Netanyahu’s war, and Harris’s refusal to cleanly break with that policy.

It’s by no means clear how not voting for Harris will stop Israel’s destruction of Gaza and the attendant slaughter of innocent lives. It is perfectly clear, however, that it will imperil millions of innocent lives right here in the USA should it lead to a Trump victory.

https://prospect.org/2024/10/31/2024-10-31-refusing-vote-for-harris-mass-immigrant-deportations/

SunSeeker

(58,444 posts)
30. The words make sense. The same refusal to accept reality that gave us Trump is about to leave Gaza to his whims.
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 09:22 AM
19 hrs ago

What “viable alternative” does the world have?

The “Board of Peace” is all there is to address the reconstruction of Gaza. No other country is stepping forward with an alternative framework, nor could it, since Netanyahu and Trump would refuse to be involved.

As Hillary says in that piece, “The choice for governments is not whether this process is ideal. It is whether they are prepared to help shape an imperfect framework from within or stand aside while more destructive actors shape what comes next.”

muriel_volestrangler

(106,922 posts)
36. Don't capitulate to Trump.
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 09:29 AM
19 hrs ago

Anyone would be a better leader of reconstruction in Gaza that Trump. Hillary herself. Mitt Romney. Gordon Brown. Bono. No Board of Peace at all would be better than one led by Trump. Cooperating with the destructive actors is a bad choice.

yardwork

(70,052 posts)
46. Ok, how do we achieve that?
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 10:26 AM
18 hrs ago

Reading Clinton's op-ed it sounds like she'd fully agree with you that almost anyone would be a better leader for this than Trump and his cadre. No disagreement from me or any DUers either, I expect.

But how? Trump is the president. The Republicans control Congress and the U.S. Supreme Court. Netanyahu is out of control. How do we put someone else in charge of fixing this?

Clinton says in this op-ed that the world has two choices: let the death and suffering continue, or move forward with this very flawed plan.

What alternative do you suggest?

muriel_volestrangler

(106,922 posts)
47. I disagree that cooperating with the Board of Peace, led for life by Trump, is the only alternative.
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 10:35 AM
18 hrs ago

Boycott Israel while it's led by Netanyahu. Support Israeli politicians who advocate a proper peace, which includes withdrawing settlers from the West Bank.

Cooperating with known criminals - Trump and Netanyahu - is not the only alternative to them killing more people.

yardwork

(70,052 posts)
48. Who is in power now who can boycott Israel?
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 10:38 AM
18 hrs ago

Who is in power now who will support Israeli politicians who advocate a proper peace?

muriel_volestrangler

(106,922 posts)
49. You do the boycott yourself. You look for decent Israeli politicians yourself
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 10:46 AM
18 hrs ago

I sincerely hope you are not living your life in the US with the attitude of "Trump is now in power, we should support him until the next president is elected". And Hillary needs to reverse course. She's advocating collaboration with criminals.

yardwork

(70,052 posts)
52. My tiny little boycott of a few Israeli products is nothing.
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 10:58 AM
17 hrs ago

You can say that Americans "should" boycott Israel but I don't think many people do what others think they "should" do.

I have zero power over Israeli politicians. I'm fighting tooth and nail to try to get some Democrats elected to the House and Senate.

I think this discussion is a clear demonstration of two different ways of thinking about crises. I assume that, like me, you want to see suffering in Gaza, the West Bank, Lebanon, Israel, and everywhere else in the ME end.

I think you and I have very different thoughts about how to achieve that and which politicians to elect toward achieving that.

muriel_volestrangler

(106,922 posts)
55. Obviously we agree we don't elect politicians who support Trump
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 11:12 AM
17 hrs ago

and I don't think we should listen to ones who tell us to work with Trump, even if they're no longer running for election (and Democrats like Fetterman should be primaried, if they dare to run again after collaborating with him). That goes for US domestic policy and foreign policy too.

yardwork

(70,052 posts)
59. U.S. politics is structured differently than Britain's.
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 11:38 AM
17 hrs ago

We have a lot less flexibility on this side of the pond. If Trump were prime minister in Britain new elections would be called now. We don't have that option. We're stuck with this administration at least until January 2029. (And getting rid of Trump won't help. JD Vance automatically becomes president if Trump is removed. Vance would be more effective than Trump at achieving the white supremacist goals of his billionaire handlers.)

If Fetterman runs again I hope the people of Pennsylvania choose a different Democratic nominee who can beat the Republican. That's very possible in Pennsylvania. In contrast to West Virginia, where Democrat Manchin is replaced by a Republican.

One of the truly un-democratic aspects of our Congress is that the winner takes all. When Republicans have a simple majority they control everything about the process. They have a majority vote on every committee, chair every committee, and have total control over what gets to the floor. So literally electing any Democrat is better than any Republican when control of the House or Senate is at stake. Manchin and Sinema were infuriating, but their elections gave Democrats the razor thin majority that gave us control of Congress for a few years.

We need that back. If we can get a comfortable majority then the votes of Fetterman don't matter.

So I have one single goal: help Democrats regain the House and Senate in November.

David__77

(24,911 posts)
9. Disgusting.
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 05:31 AM
23 hrs ago

Politics CAN be about changing things and not just consolidating the way things are.

This is endorsement dressed up as “realism”.

Sometimes no, people (even including the elites to whom this is addressed) will actually not eat the shit sandwich.

I don’t think this is so much motivated by concern about the status quo or general human suffering as the possibility that there will indeed could be a shift in conditions that some quarters would find unfavorable to what they consider to be Israel-US interests.

sop

(19,951 posts)
82. Maybe Hillary knows more about Trump's Gaza plan than the rest of us?
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 01:17 PM
15 hrs ago

Really, that's the best I can come up with to justify this. Can't say what I really think, either.

Whip-poor-will

(668 posts)
11. Right white supremacists
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 06:19 AM
22 hrs ago

Hasn't the Middle East suffered enough of white men solutions to their situation that the white supremacists created ?

Ponietz

(4,656 posts)
12. I think of the 22 Democratic Senators who voted to confirm John Roberts and just cry
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 06:27 AM
22 hrs ago

Or that Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, John Kerry, Charles Schumer, and Diane Feinstein (among others) voted FOR the Iraq war. The more things change…

Max Baucus
Evan Bayh
Joe Biden
John Breaux
Maria Cantwell
Jean Carnahan
Tom Carper
Max Cleland
Hillary Clinton
Tom Daschle
Chris Dodd
Byron Dorgan
John Edwards
Dianne Feinstein
Tom Harkin
Fritz Hollings
Tim Johnson
John Kerry
Herb Kohl
Mary Landrieu
Joe Lieberman
Blanche Lincoln
Zell Miller
Bill Nelson
Ben Nelson
Harry Reid
Jay Rockefeller
Chuck Schumer
Robert Torricelli

Wikipedia

Celerity

(55,412 posts)
19. Here are the 22 Dems who voted to confirm Roberts:
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 07:31 AM
21 hrs ago

Carper (DE)
Wyden (OR)
Murray (WA)

are the only Dem Yes votes who still are in the US Senate.

Here are all 22 Dem Yes votes:

https://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/29/politics/politicsspecial1/senate-roll-call-on-roberts-nomination.html

Arkansas Lincoln (D) Yes; Pryor (D) Yes

Colorado Salazar (D) Yes

Connecticut=Dodd (D) Yes; Lieberman (D) Yes

Delaware Carper (D) Yes

Florida Nelson (D) Yes

Louisiana Landrieu (D) Yes

Michigan Levin (D) Yes

Montana Baucus (D) Yes

Nebraska Nelson (D) Yes

New Mexico Bingaman (D) Yes

North Dakota Conrad (D) Yes; Dorgan (D) Yes

Oregon Wyden (D) Yes

South Dakota Johnson (D) Yes

Vermont Leahy (D) Yes

Washington Murray (D) Yes

West Virginia Byrd (D) Yes; Rockefeller (D) Yes

Wisconsin Feingold (D) Yes; Kohl (D) Yes

Ponietz

(4,656 posts)
44. Bingaman greatly disappointed on this vote -- he focused his career on energy and natural resources and, get this:
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 10:18 AM
18 hrs ago

CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM!
SMDH

malaise

(299,804 posts)
20. Clarence Thomas was nominated by GHW Bush
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 07:40 AM
21 hrs ago

35 years ago today. 11 Democratic Party Senators made that 52-48 appointment possible.

mountain grammy

(29,430 posts)
23. Obama was a no
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 08:32 AM
20 hrs ago

As was Bernie Sanders. It was my first real look at the Senator from Illinois and I thought, I like this man! He should run for President.

ColoringFool

(1,425 posts)
18. Are we allowed to criticize DEMOCRAT HRC? Just wondering.....
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 07:25 AM
21 hrs ago

I wonder if she will come to "regret" and "apologize for" this latest acquiescence to a Republican President with ulterior motives.

See:
Clinton’s Iraq War Vote Still Appalls - Progressive.org https://share.google/LN8BJKv3kAHpvn2uz

Response to Celerity (Original post)

GJGCA

(326 posts)
26. As Groucho said...
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 09:06 AM
19 hrs ago

I sent the club a wire stating, PLEASE ACCEPT MY RESIGNATION. I DON'T WANT TO BELONG TO ANY CLUB THAT WILL ACCEPT ME AS A MEMBER.

https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/43244.Groucho_Marx

Politics, strange bedfellows, all that, but huh?

Kid Berwyn

(25,555 posts)
38. Same class that looted the banks in 2008.
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 09:48 AM
19 hrs ago

Same class that looted the S&Ls in 1990.

Same class that, when caught, didn’t have to pay it back.

Same class that got bonuses when everyone in lesser classes were losing their homes.

That Epstein class, who then wanted to privatize Social Security and now want to put US taxpayers on the hook for crypto.

Quiet Em

(3,266 posts)
40. She discussed this with David Remnick recently but all people focused on was her brief Joe Biden comments
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 09:57 AM
18 hrs ago

I will again post a transcript to her interview. She offers a lot of insight and knowledge about everything happening in Iran/Israel/Gaza etc.

https://singjupost.com/david-remnick-interviews-hillary-clinton-at-92ny-transcript/

A few more thoughts covered by The National with also has an interview with UN humanitarian chief Tom Fletcher who echoes her warning.

https://www.msn.com/en-ae/news/world/hillary-clinton-backs-donald-trumps-gaza-plan-calling-it-only-realistic-path-to-reconstruction/ar-AA25ZLc2?ocid=BingNewsVerp

“Without such a plan, the crisis in Gaza will only deteriorate,” she wrote, warning that “with Hamas retaining both political and practical influence over a devastated population through armed actors, local administrative structures, aid distribution networks and access to basic goods and services.”

Ms Clinton added that another generation of children was at risk of growing up amid “rubble, fear and hopelessness”.

“There will be no security for Israel. No viable path to Palestinian self-determination,” she said.

Ms Clinton acknowledged that many governments remain wary of the Board of Peace initiative and the Trump administration's Gaza plan, citing concerns over Palestinian governance, political sequencing and reliance on a US-led framework at a time of declining confidence in American leadership.

“Many are understandably sceptical of an approach so closely associated with Donald Trump,” she wrote. “I understand that scepticism and share some of it. Yet if even I, an implacable opponent of President Trump, can accept that this is the best option in a terrible situation, then surely others can, too?”


She urged Europe, regional powers and the broader international community to engage with the plan despite its shortcomings, stating that “disengagement will not produce a more acceptable alternative” and warning that continued inaction would only deepen the crisis in Gaza.

oasis

(54,382 posts)
41. Thanks for this information. It saved my respect
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 10:06 AM
18 hrs ago

for Hillary’s political insight.

sheshe2

(99,099 posts)
90. Thank you.
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 09:17 PM
7 hrs ago
“I understand that scepticism and share some of it. Yet if even I, an implacable opponent of President Trump, can accept that this is the best option in a terrible situation, then surely others can, too?”

yardwork

(70,052 posts)
45. I just read the entire statement and it isn't an endorsement.
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 10:19 AM
18 hrs ago

Over and over in this op-ed Clinton states that she disagrees with most of the plan but sees absolutely no alternative at this point.

She urges the world to do something to stop the suffering and death, rather than waiting for a better plan (which is very unlikely to emerge anytime soon with Trump in the White House.)

Describing this as an endorsement makes it sound like she thinks it's a good plan. She says over and over that she does not.

I think that this misunderstanding of Clinton's message is similar to the misunderstandings she accrued during her runs for the presidency. Clinton focuses on what is possible to do now in these constrained moments. She doesn't make big promises. She doesn't throw lofty ideals down on the table and declaim her eternal constancy to those ideals alone.

Clinton is unwilling to make promises she isn't certain she can keep. She is unwilling to allow deaths and suffering to continue if there is any possible way forward, even if it is a very flawed way.

Clinton sees a humanitarian disaster in the Middle East and looks for the only possible way to stop the killings soon. Even though that plan is greatly flawed, she thinks it's the only way forward.

Representing this op-ed as an endorsement is a misrepresentation and I believe a fundamental misunderstanding of who Hillary Clinton is. She is not a natural politician. She doesn't tell people what they want to hear. Her archetype is that of the elder mother who is telling the family what they need to do in order to survive, even though they and she hate having to do it.

Jmo

QueerDuck

(2,272 posts)
50. As usual. She's right. At this point, our choices are limited and something needs to be done.
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 10:47 AM
18 hrs ago

yardwork

(70,052 posts)
54. Thanks for summing it up succinctly.
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 11:05 AM
17 hrs ago

Hillary Clinton is right about a lot of things that people don't want to hear. That's why she wasn't elected to the White House.

leftstreet

(41,392 posts)
56. She knows the "Peace Board" can be replaced
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 11:16 AM
17 hrs ago

Like her or not, she's always been an unapologetic and skilled US interests hawk

Reading the whole article you can see she's talking about a framework here, not the dipshit individuals Trump's got on his board.

QueerDuck

(2,272 posts)
60. Those who have been most critical of her for saying this, seem to be the same ones...
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 11:46 AM
17 hrs ago

... who would not support her because she wasn't perfect (but what candidate is?) and in the meantime, by not supporting "the best option we have right now" out of pride or anger... we ended up with Trump. --- Same thing applies here! By refusing to support "the best framework we have right now" then things only get worse and it becomes more difficult in the future to guide things and make necessary changes.

Let's do something NOW instead of waiting, wasting time, and having to start from scratch LATER... and when things will be worse and more complicated to deal with.

Hillary knows what she's doing. (It's hard to ignore her haters. They're certainly loud... but I trust Hillary.)

muriel_volestrangler

(106,922 posts)
66. The Board of Peace cannot be replaced; Trump is its head for life
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 12:12 PM
16 hrs ago

and has complete control over its membership. Only his death would free it. Until then, working through it means enabling a known conman and criminal. Everything Trump touches turns to shit, and there's no way this Board will be an exception.

EdmondDantes_

(2,292 posts)
85. Once Trump isn't president, the Board of Peace won't be especially relevant
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 01:33 PM
15 hrs ago

And if you aren't willing to work with conmen and criminals, how do you negotiate with Netanyahu or Hamas who are both?

And while we're sitting here waiting around for some theoretical plan you would prefer, how many people in Gaza die in the meantime and how much does that grow the sort of anger that fuels Hamas and other terrorist organizations?

Nobody including Secretary Clinton thinks this is ideal, but regardless the fact is Trump is president, the world has largely deferred to US leadership on these sorts of problems, and it's hard to grow that skill on the fly, we have the strongest relationship with Israel which gives us relative leverage with Israel that nobody else does. Doesn't matter that all of those things suck, what matters is they are.

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,975 posts)
79. Progressives vs. Democrats
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 01:05 PM
15 hrs ago

Round 5000.

Some people don't read anything posted on here beyond the baiting headline.

karynnj

(61,245 posts)
58. I wonder if Hillary Clinton might be blinded by an assumption
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 11:28 AM
17 hrs ago

that the US is THE exceptional country. It may be that between the Arab League and countries like France there could be another plan.

I also question if the plan is viable. It was suppose to move quickly between the early stages and, in fact, hasn't. Fighting and bombing continues in spite of everyone saying there is a ceasefire. The area controlled by Israel has slowly expanded.

This plan, in conjunction with the ever expanding settlements in the West Bank and talk of annexation, eliminates any possibility of a Palestinian state ever existing.

yardwork

(70,052 posts)
61. If you read her op-ed I think you'll see that she is not promoting hegemony.
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 11:47 AM
17 hrs ago

I think that Clinton and the rest of us would love it if another, better plan emerged. But it has not emerged.

It's horrific to think about, but Trump and his billionaire supporters have all the power right now.

Not liking reality is understandable. Many people don't like Hillary Clinton. I think it's because she tells us things we don't want to hear, asks that we face things we don't want to believe, and urges us to do things we have to do. The other option is to complain and hope and demand and wish for things to change. People like doing that. It feels better.

karynnj

(61,245 posts)
69. I admit I read the sections you posted after posting
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 12:20 PM
16 hrs ago

However, I still think what I wrote, knowing Clinton knows FAR, FAR more than I do.

I also do read Haaretz often enough that I know there is very little support for a two state solution and that many refer to moving to one as rewarding Hamas for Oct 7.

However, I think the Gaza Ceasefire and Trump's plan are mostly masking continued aggression on both sides and Israel increasing the footprint of the area it controls. Add in the situation in the West Bank and in Lebanon. Could this be going too far in the other direction?

I get that Clinton might think that by taking the position she did, she could influence the Europeans to engage with Trump on this and move him to a more reasonable position. This reminds me that many top foreign policy Democrats tried to do that with the more reasonable GWB, with their Iran votes only to find they had no influence and were seen as complicit in the very thing they were aiming to stop.

yardwork

(70,052 posts)
71. I don't think Clinton believes it's possible to reason with Trump.
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 12:25 PM
16 hrs ago

She's been warning us about Trump since 2015 and everything she's said about him has proven true.

I think it's clear that Clinton thinks Trump and his cadre are absolute trash, vile people with no redeeming qualities, who can't be reasoned with in any way.

I think she's saying that the alternative is even worse.

AloeVera

(4,685 posts)
80. For some reason this reminds me of the "facts on the ground" strategy.
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 01:09 PM
15 hrs ago

Create facts on the ground - illegal settlements in the West Bank, the deliberate annihilation of Gaza, the forced transfer of an entire population to a mere 30% of its territory etc - and then claim it was necessary AND cannot be reversed.

Which of course is....fill in the blanks.

Other than that, I better not say what I think - as much as I would like to.

Rob H.

(6,005 posts)
83. Sorry, no one gets to call themselves
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 01:20 PM
15 hrs ago

“an implacable opponent of the president” and then endorse something so patently egregious. Nope.

AloeVera

(4,685 posts)
84. "Hillary Clinton endorses a Plan designed to thwart a future Palestinian state."
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 01:23 PM
15 hrs ago

That should be the headline.

ALBliberal

(3,454 posts)
87. Sanders won't endorse the Board of Peace.
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 02:27 PM
14 hrs ago

My only thought for now other than I did vote for Hillary for president. But not in the primary.

oasis

(54,382 posts)
89. Thinking it through, I'm giving Hill the benefit
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 07:13 PM
9 hrs ago

of the doubt on this. After all, she’s a former Sec.of State and has keen insight in on issues within the international political realm.
Far keener than mine, for sure.

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