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erronis

(24,984 posts)
6. Stalin was not a communist. Just like trump is not a president of the people.
Sat Jun 27, 2026, 09:08 PM
4 hrs ago

They were/are both tyrants interested only in their own personal gratification.

wnylib

(26,833 posts)
10. Yes, he did. He was a mainstream Dem who implemented
Sat Jun 27, 2026, 10:58 PM
3 hrs ago

some programs that socialists wanted. He signed the law to allow collectuve bargaining for unions and signed Social Security into law. He also got Congress to pass anti trust regulations on businesses to prevent monopolies and regulations on Wall Street practices to prevent severe crashes from speculation and from overleveraged banks.

Since the Reagan years, Republicans have consistently chipped away at those regulations. Obama got some reinstated after the 2008 housing market fiasco, but Rs have succeeded in deregulating the market as much as they can so that now we have corporate conglomerate monopolies and violations of insider trading in Congress and the WH without accountability.

Beartracks

(14,753 posts)
12. Capitalism needs regulation to maximize benefit the same way nuclear reactors do.
Sat Jun 27, 2026, 11:37 PM
2 hrs ago

Vastly powerful engine, but needs control and containment so as not to melt down and endanger everything.

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betsuni

(29,449 posts)
17. The absurd myth that FDR wasn't a capitalist isn't going away.
Sun Jun 28, 2026, 12:35 AM
1 hr ago

The democratic socialist establishment leadership that started the whole myth is talking about more Independent or other third party runs against Democrats to replace them, and I predict third party candidates to harm Democrats in the next presidential election. Their message is to hate Democrats. The BS attacks will be constant, and no matter how often debunked, will keep coming. Sigh. Social media will be flooded with crap. Happy Days Are Here Again. Not.

None of this division and lies are necessary, none of it. Democrats aren't "terrified" or "threatened" by socialists, they don't want to be attacked all the time and slandered as corrupt and immoral "ideologically bankrupt" and standing for nothing and being Republican lite. And they want to win.

J_William_Ryan

(3,653 posts)
3. This 'democratic socialist' nonsense is getting ridiculous.
Sat Jun 27, 2026, 08:52 PM
5 hrs ago

Once again Democrats are needlessly fighting amongst themselves to the benefit of the fascist right.

Once again Democrats are allowing the fascist right to vilify and demonize Democrats with disinformation and lies about ‘socialism’ – just as they have with ‘liberal’ and ‘woke.’

RandySF

(87,969 posts)
7. I guarantee you nobody on DU hates social democrats or democratic socialists
Sat Jun 27, 2026, 09:12 PM
4 hrs ago

but some were flagged for conduct issues.

Lovie777

(24,533 posts)
8. Liberal Democrat here.................
Sat Jun 27, 2026, 09:23 PM
4 hrs ago

Fond of Mamdani, Cooper, Newsom, Brown, Clinton, Biden, Obama, Talarico, et al.,

I've always enjoyed the Big Tent, what the USA is all about.

calimary

(91,478 posts)
13. That's actually pretty good!
Sat Jun 27, 2026, 11:50 PM
2 hrs ago

But then one has to figure out “Whaddya mean ‘parties’? Social? Political? Something else?

betsuni

(29,449 posts)
15. A famous establishment democratic socialist said Democrats "go to nice cocktail parties and walk out
Sun Jun 28, 2026, 12:14 AM
1 hr ago

with a hundred thousand dollars ... That's your world." FDR loved cocktails and smoked clams at the end of the day.

Democrats are social party animals!

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