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Sympthsical

(11,301 posts)
Sat Jun 27, 2026, 03:48 PM 10 hrs ago

Jewish Democrat Scott Wiener harrassed in Dolores Park

Scott Wiener is one of the two Democratic candidates running to fill Nancy Pelosi's seat in S.F. And for those playing at home, Wiener has referred to events in Gaza as a genocide, condemns Netanyahu, and doesn't support funding of Israel. So what mysterious reason could he be targeted in such a manner? We may never know!

The video is a whole lot:

https://xcancel.com/Justin_G0rd0n/status/2070720949310406836

Maybe if he was even more forcefully against Netanyahu, he wouldn't get harassed as much? For his safety. That's what I've been told.

That man seriously should have security around him after this. These people are frightening.

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Jewish Democrat Scott Wiener harrassed in Dolores Park (Original Post) Sympthsical 10 hrs ago OP
That's unacceptable RandySF 10 hrs ago #1
"Israelis are far, Jews are closer!" Behind the Aegis 10 hrs ago #2
There it is. Sympthsical 10 hrs ago #3
And the ultimate irony... Behind the Aegis 10 hrs ago #4
I'm confused, what are you saying here, friend? AZJonnie 9 hrs ago #8
You left out "on an unrelated issue". Behind the Aegis 9 hrs ago #10
Yes, now I get you, you meant Gaza was the place it couldn't happen AZJonnie 9 hrs ago #15
You're welcome. Behind the Aegis 9 hrs ago #16
Beat me to it Boo1 8 hrs ago #33
Man, if you can't even be safe from anti-semitism in Dolores freaking Park, SF?!? AZJonnie 9 hrs ago #5
And he was there to support trans people Sympthsical 9 hrs ago #6
Disturbing and saddening for sure AZJonnie 9 hrs ago #9
If only we had some kind of clue.... yardwork 7 hrs ago #39
People let their hate make them stupid. EdmondDantes_ 9 hrs ago #7
Thank you. An added thought ... RandomNumbers 9 hrs ago #13
Guess one can't say it's his stance on Israel or mcar 9 hrs ago #11
LGBTQ people have been harassed and much worse, so why do these people think this is a good way to treat others? chowder66 9 hrs ago #12
Was the person who harassed him LGBTQ? yardwork 7 hrs ago #40
I can't be sure but they were screaming how great he was on trans and LGBTQ issues. chowder66 6 hrs ago #47
Do they know how Mossfern 9 hrs ago #14
it may be more nuanced than that. From Wikipedia: scipan 9 hrs ago #17
This message was self-deleted by its author RandySF 9 hrs ago #19
So fighting antisemitism is wrong? RandySF 9 hrs ago #20
Of course not. NOT what I meant AT ALL. scipan 8 hrs ago #28
I don't think harassment requires nuance Sympthsical 8 hrs ago #24
OP already noted that he thought Gaza was a genocide. scipan 8 hrs ago #27
I'm just saying citing his past views doesn't give an accurate picture Sympthsical 8 hrs ago #31
Well apprised? You may be right. They didn't strike me as well read. and, scipan 7 hrs ago #38
I'll wait to learn more (if we ever do) but something tells me it's not that complicated. yardwork 7 hrs ago #42
he advocated for 2 things I disagree with. scipan 8 hrs ago #34
That is fair enough Sympthsical 8 hrs ago #35
yeah I usually avoid Israel/Palestine threads. My only disagreement scipan 8 hrs ago #37
So in essence he does everything that is said sarisataka 9 hrs ago #18
I think maybe read the excerpt in the post you responed to Mossfern 9 hrs ago #21
I think maybe it is misunderstanding sarisataka 8 hrs ago #30
I condemn this wholeheartedly. He has more patience and restraint than I would have had. Celerity 8 hrs ago #22
I'm still fine with either Wiener or Chan Sympthsical 8 hrs ago #25
Eating our own makes conservatives so happy. EllieBC 8 hrs ago #23
US systemic racism is not anything new and the Jewish community is not immune to it... walkingman 8 hrs ago #26
Encroaching on his space and being so verbally abusive is disgusting. Wiener has been strong on trans rights. Nanjeanne 8 hrs ago #29
Appreciate the response Sympthsical 8 hrs ago #32
I think harassment of people for any reason particularly in a threatening and challenging manner should Nanjeanne 7 hrs ago #41
They didn't say they were surprised by your post. yardwork 7 hrs ago #43
Thanks for sharing. I thought for sure I would miss you today. And a day without you misinterpreting either Nanjeanne 7 hrs ago #45
Post removed Post removed 8 hrs ago #36
God help us. DemocratSinceBirth 7 hrs ago #44
Well, those ignorant raging assholes Cha 7 hrs ago #46
Cha, that's amazing you said that about giving him a hug. Nixie 3 hrs ago #48
Ohh, I'm so glad to hear that, Nixie... Cha 1 hr ago #49

Behind the Aegis

(56,327 posts)
4. And the ultimate irony...
Sat Jun 27, 2026, 03:57 PM
10 hrs ago

...chasing a GAY man out of a Trans Day Festival, by yelling about an unrelated issue, in a place where said festival would NEVER happen.

AZJonnie

(4,216 posts)
8. I'm confused, what are you saying here, friend?
Sat Jun 27, 2026, 04:06 PM
9 hrs ago

"chasing a GAY man out of a Trans Day Festival ...... in a place where said festival would NEVER happen."

If said festival cannot happen in said place, how could one be chased out of a festival occurring in that place?? The former would seem to preclude the latter, but perhaps I'm missing something

Was there a Trans Day festival in Dolores Park happening when this happened?

I'm 100% with you on the condemnation, and particularly more so if he was at such a festival, I'm just asking for clarity.

Behind the Aegis

(56,327 posts)
10. You left out "on an unrelated issue".
Sat Jun 27, 2026, 04:11 PM
9 hrs ago

They attacked him over Gaza. That has nothing to do with Trans rights. The irony is that said event would NEVER be allowed in Gaza. So, they are chasing away an ally over an unrelated issue in the name of a place where they would never be allowed to exist, much less gather.

Does that make more sense?

AZJonnie

(4,216 posts)
15. Yes, now I get you, you meant Gaza was the place it couldn't happen
Sat Jun 27, 2026, 04:25 PM
9 hrs ago

Thanks for the clarification

Behind the Aegis

(56,327 posts)
16. You're welcome.
Sat Jun 27, 2026, 04:33 PM
9 hrs ago

Apologies for the confusion. I was doing three things at once. Not a good thing. LOL!

AZJonnie

(4,216 posts)
5. Man, if you can't even be safe from anti-semitism in Dolores freaking Park, SF?!?
Sat Jun 27, 2026, 03:58 PM
9 hrs ago

Been on more than one march that started at the spot over the decades, including one or two marching against Operation Desert Storm. It's like hallowed freaking ground afaic.

That is really, really disappointing

Sympthsical

(11,301 posts)
6. And he was there to support trans people
Sat Jun 27, 2026, 04:01 PM
9 hrs ago

He could be San Francisco's first LGBT congressional representative.

And it's just not good enough.

For mysterious reasons we will never discover.

EdmondDantes_

(2,285 posts)
7. People let their hate make them stupid.
Sat Jun 27, 2026, 04:02 PM
9 hrs ago

And I get it, I've definitely done it on other issues on my own life. It really helps to stop and think and question if the target of your anger is the right target and if they are, is it worth what hate does to you. It almost never is.

RandomNumbers

(19,309 posts)
13. Thank you. An added thought ...
Sat Jun 27, 2026, 04:14 PM
9 hrs ago

I can't find the exact quote, but in Buddhist teaching (or perhaps I heard from someone who teaches along that line), there is a concept that anger causes more damage to the angry person than their target. The objective should be to understand one's anger and its sources, and to calmly find constructive ways to address those things creating the situations that make us angry.

Unfortunately many people all over the political spectrum will allow their anger to drive them to actions that are more harmful than helpful to their cause and themselves.

chowder66

(12,707 posts)
12. LGBTQ people have been harassed and much worse, so why do these people think this is a good way to treat others?
Sat Jun 27, 2026, 04:14 PM
9 hrs ago

Harassing in this way is not productive and it's pretty damn frightening to watch.

Does this level of hatred/anger ever get directed towards Republicans?


I also find it pretty amazing that no one there came to help.

scipan

(3,164 posts)
17. it may be more nuanced than that. From Wikipedia:
Sat Jun 27, 2026, 04:45 PM
9 hrs ago
As co-chair of the CLJC, Wiener has contributed to legislation aimed at countering anti-Israel narratives and activism, alleged antisemitism, and promoting Holocaust education in California public schools and universities.[159][162] Wiener and CLJC worked to ensure that ethnic studies legislation to "provide clear direction to local school districts and the California Department of Education that anti-Jewish and anti-Israel content cannot be included in the teaching of ethnic studies".[163][164] Wiener and the CLJC successfully advocated for the incorporation of the IHRA definition of antisemitism in California's Ethnic Studies Model Curriculum (ESMC), which has been criticized as including legitimate critique of Israel in order to silence pro-Palestinian activism.[165][166][167]

On February 14, 2025, Wiener introduced AB 715, a bill described by proponents as preventing K-12 anti-semitism through a series of new prohibitions and requirements, including the appointment of an Antisemitism Prevention Coordinator.[168][169][170] AB 715 was signed into law in October 2025.

Wiener and the California Legislative Jewish Caucus have been criticized by Jewish Voice for Peace for "twist[ing] criticism [of Israel] into antisemitism".[171] He said that Israel should "be more surgical" in Gaza, but opposed with CLJC a Gaza cease-fire resolution in Sacramento.[172] Wiener and other CLJC officials commended California State University Chancellor Mildred García for placing Sonoma State University President Mike Lee on leave after Lee announced support for an academic boycott of Israel in agreement with protesters and Students for Justice in Palestine,[173][174][175] which was seen as aligning with the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) movement, and which Wiener described as "horrific and wrong".[176][177][178]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Wiener

Response to scipan (Reply #17)

RandySF

(87,969 posts)
20. So fighting antisemitism is wrong?
Sat Jun 27, 2026, 04:55 PM
9 hrs ago

I bet Bernie and Lander would disagree with you.

scipan

(3,164 posts)
28. Of course not. NOT what I meant AT ALL.
Sat Jun 27, 2026, 05:19 PM
8 hrs ago

Don't take the worst interpretation you can and run with it like that.

Sympthsical

(11,301 posts)
24. I don't think harassment requires nuance
Sat Jun 27, 2026, 05:00 PM
8 hrs ago

But I'll play.

Anyone familiar with how faculty in various school districts in the Bay Area behaved in a totally normal fashion after October 7th understands where the antisemitism education initiatives are coming from. Some of those school districts - from the faculty down - were throwing heinous rhetoric around and trying to include the kids. It was an infamous local shitshow. Antisemitism in these school districts continues to be a problem.

And if you look at the footnotes for the entries you're citing, you'll find they're stories from 2024 and 2025. You cut off the excerpt right before his resignation as co-chair of the Jewish Caucus because of his remarks calling Gaza a genocide. His views on the issues have changed over time, and he gave an interview back in January of this year detailing those views. He literally acceded to the people who are screaming at him.

And, just so we're clear, none of it justifies people harassing him in such a fashion.

scipan

(3,164 posts)
27. OP already noted that he thought Gaza was a genocide.
Sat Jun 27, 2026, 05:16 PM
8 hrs ago

I'm saying his views are more nuanced, and also that the harassers are probably angry about his views rather than his ethnicity/religion. But that's giving them the benefit of the doubt.

I agree that none of it justifies harassment in that fashion. It hurts to see it.

Sympthsical

(11,301 posts)
31. I'm just saying citing his past views doesn't give an accurate picture
Sat Jun 27, 2026, 05:31 PM
8 hrs ago

When his current views were just subject to a vigorous primary campaign. A lot of people have changed their views as the situation progressed. I myself gave Netanyahu a grace period in the Israeli response for about the first six or so months before saying, "No, this is too much. Israel has to pull back from this now." And it's just gotten worse over time.

So when we ask politicians to evolve, then they evolve, and they still get screamed at, I guess I just don't understand the motivation. The things they're screaming at him are not reflective of his current views, and I think anyone paying attention to this situation in San Francisco is well-apprised of where he currently stands.

There are, unfortunately, people in that movement who think Zionist/Likud/Israeli are all synonyms for Jew, and I would confidently put money down that these folks are moving in those circles.

scipan

(3,164 posts)
38. Well apprised? You may be right. They didn't strike me as well read. and,
Sat Jun 27, 2026, 06:04 PM
7 hrs ago

the left has some antisemites in those circles. Disgusting.

yardwork

(69,977 posts)
42. I'll wait to learn more (if we ever do) but something tells me it's not that complicated.
Sat Jun 27, 2026, 06:21 PM
7 hrs ago

Harassers usually don't do a lot of careful research into nuance and such.

Harassers are more in the MTG mold of reacting to one issue that grabs their emotions.

scipan

(3,164 posts)
34. he advocated for 2 things I disagree with.
Sat Jun 27, 2026, 05:37 PM
8 hrs ago

That antisemitism definition includes being anti-zionism. And, I think it's up to individuals/groups whether to divest in Israel. I don't see evidence that he changed his mind on those.

He also seems to be a thinking person, someone I could definitely vote for.

Sympthsical

(11,301 posts)
35. That is fair enough
Sat Jun 27, 2026, 05:48 PM
8 hrs ago

Disagree about the anti-Zionism bit, but . . . I'm exhausted with discussing the topic for now, lol.

scipan

(3,164 posts)
37. yeah I usually avoid Israel/Palestine threads. My only disagreement
Sat Jun 27, 2026, 05:57 PM
8 hrs ago

is, I did not hear antisemitism in what all they were shouting and prefer not to pin that on them without evidence. But they were damned uncivilized and almost certainly breaking the law. And I HATE that.

sarisataka

(22,998 posts)
18. So in essence he does everything that is said
Sat Jun 27, 2026, 04:47 PM
9 hrs ago

Jews should do to avoid antisemitism yet he still faced antisemitism.

Just spitballing here, maybe it isn't Israel. Perhaps Israel is an excuse for antisemitism but the root cause is something else?

Might it be Judenhass?

Mossfern

(4,892 posts)
21. I think maybe read the excerpt in the post you responed to
Sat Jun 27, 2026, 04:55 PM
9 hrs ago

It says the opposite.
..... or maybe it's me who's misunderstanding.

sarisataka

(22,998 posts)
30. I think maybe it is misunderstanding
Sat Jun 27, 2026, 05:30 PM
8 hrs ago

The candidate opposes israel's actions in Gaza, Netanyahu and funding, which are all things Jews are told they should do to avoid antisemitism, but that apparently now is not good enough. A Jewish person must do more or they have to expect to face antisemitism

Sympthsical

(11,301 posts)
25. I'm still fine with either Wiener or Chan
Sat Jun 27, 2026, 05:01 PM
8 hrs ago

But I admire the hell out of his poise in that situation.

But thank you for speaking up. I appreciate it.

EllieBC

(3,640 posts)
23. Eating our own makes conservatives so happy.
Sat Jun 27, 2026, 04:59 PM
8 hrs ago

Also, we need to eventually admit there’s an antisemitism problem on the left and it’s got nothing to do with Israel.

walkingman

(11,306 posts)
26. US systemic racism is not anything new and the Jewish community is not immune to it...
Sat Jun 27, 2026, 05:12 PM
8 hrs ago

but I honestly think that the vast majority of people on the left, especially in the US, are not antisemitic but are against the leadership of Netanyahu and US economic support that has enabled many of Israeli actions in the West Bank and Gaza.

I honestly think of Netanyahu like I do Trump - basically maintaining power to stay out of prison. ☮

Nanjeanne

(6,850 posts)
29. Encroaching on his space and being so verbally abusive is disgusting. Wiener has been strong on trans rights.
Sat Jun 27, 2026, 05:27 PM
8 hrs ago

It takes courage to be a public figure. Especially now with so much anger in the world.

Nanjeanne

(6,850 posts)
41. I think harassment of people for any reason particularly in a threatening and challenging manner should
Sat Jun 27, 2026, 06:20 PM
7 hrs ago

always be called out. There are places where politicians should be willing to engage with constituents who disagree with them. This was not the place and this manner was not the way. As a Jewish woman who has spent much time with my Israeli family and as someone who knew people murdered on Oct 7 and who has met many Palestinians working with my family members for years for peace (including protectors who put their own lives on the line for Palestinians against violence and land seizures by Israeli settlers in the West Bank) I may have a different perspective than many people here and I may see real threats differently as well — but why you would be surprised by my calling out unacceptable behavior against Jews Im not sure. I call it out wherever I truly see it and towards any people. As I’m sure you do as well.

While I appreciate your appreciation I don’t see you saying that to anyone else in this thread. Just makes me feel a bit awkward.

yardwork

(69,977 posts)
43. They didn't say they were surprised by your post.
Sat Jun 27, 2026, 06:24 PM
7 hrs ago

Sympthsical thanked at least one other in this thread before they thanked you, well before your comment.

They come across as gracious and patient.

Nanjeanne

(6,850 posts)
45. Thanks for sharing. I thought for sure I would miss you today. And a day without you misinterpreting either
Sat Jun 27, 2026, 06:27 PM
7 hrs ago

purposefully or not is like a day without sunshine. Glad the signal came through to you loud and clear.

Big hugs!!! Now I know my day is complete.

Response to Sympthsical (Original post)

Cha

(321,575 posts)
46. Well, those ignorant raging assholes
Sat Jun 27, 2026, 06:32 PM
7 hrs ago

have the wrong target. There's nothing "nuanced" about that.

Scott Weiner is Grace Under Fire. I wish I could give him a hug.

TY for this, Sympthsical. Another crucial example of why the Rabbis across the Country are worried about the spread of Anti-Semitism.

Nixie

(18,270 posts)
48. Cha, that's amazing you said that about giving him a hug.
Sat Jun 27, 2026, 10:36 PM
3 hrs ago

I felt the same way after seeing that video. I wanted to be there walking with him so that he felt supported. It was a very painful thing to watch. The screamers kept escalating. It was truly scary. He was so composed and did the right thing, just calmly walk away. I’m so impressed with him.

Cha

(321,575 posts)
49. Ohh, I'm so glad to hear that, Nixie...
Sun Jun 28, 2026, 12:17 AM
1 hr ago

Yes, he most assuredly kept his composure. Can't even imagine what he was thinking during that long walk by himself. I can imagine how he might have felt when he got to supporters who know how he feels and has spoken out about the "Gaza" horror.

The feeling just welled up inside after seeing that. I'm not one to watch ragers like that, but I watched that one.



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