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gab13by13

(33,078 posts)
Sat Jun 27, 2026, 08:59 AM 6 hrs ago

One Big Reason Why Krasnov Wants To Ban Mail In Ballots

Occam's Razor

Magats who are in control of blue districts try to create long voting lines, or by creating chaos at blue voting sites, calling in bomb threats at blue voting sites etc. People who have to wait 3,4,5,6 hours to vote, if they use their heads, will do mail in ballots the next time to avoid the long lines.

It could really be bad in states, like my state of Pa. that doesn't have early voting times, force voters to show up at the polls and then disrupt the vote at those polling places.

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One Big Reason Why Krasnov Wants To Ban Mail In Ballots (Original Post) gab13by13 6 hrs ago OP
He hasn't thought this through Fiendish Thingy 6 hrs ago #1
Why twist your numbers around to make it appear that gab13by13 6 hrs ago #2
Both can be right Fiendish Thingy 5 hrs ago #3
Voter suppression usually hurts Democrats. yardwork 5 hrs ago #4
Corrollary of high voter turnout tends to help Democrats... Wounded Bear 5 hrs ago #5
Correct. yardwork 4 hrs ago #6
Vote by mail also prevents the polling place intimidation tactics they plan to use...nt Wounded Bear 2 hrs ago #7

Fiendish Thingy

(24,477 posts)
1. He hasn't thought this through
Sat Jun 27, 2026, 09:24 AM
6 hrs ago

Which is why many Republicans oppose the SAVE Act too.

The majority (about 65% IIRC) of voters over 60 vote for Republicans most of the time.

They are also the largest portion of mail in ballot users.

And, they far and away have the highest turnout of any age group,

gab13by13

(33,078 posts)
2. Why twist your numbers around to make it appear that
Sat Jun 27, 2026, 09:34 AM
6 hrs ago

more Magats vote by mail than Democrats?

According to PEW in 2024 - 44% 0f Democrats used mail in ballots, while 26% of Republicans used mail in ballots.

Maybe PEW is wrong?

https://factually.co/fact-checks/politics/vote-by-mail-shares-change-2020-2024-by-party-state-1c199a

Fiendish Thingy

(24,477 posts)
3. Both can be right
Sat Jun 27, 2026, 10:02 AM
5 hrs ago

Did PEW survey independent voters, who outnumber both Dems and Republicans?

My point is, banning mail in ballots would have an impact on a population that the majority of which has predictably voted for republicans in the last several cycles, and the Republicans know this, which is why many oppose the SAVE act.

Trump thinks banning mail in ballots would make the midterms a slam dunk for Republicans, but that is far from certain.

I think it’s highly unlikely Trump will succeed in stopping mail in voting.

As Thomas Massie said yesterday “if elections are so corrupt, why do republicans keep winning?”

Wounded Bear

(64,844 posts)
5. Corrollary of high voter turnout tends to help Democrats...
Sat Jun 27, 2026, 10:28 AM
5 hrs ago

Has been true for several decades.

yardwork

(69,972 posts)
6. Correct.
Sat Jun 27, 2026, 11:11 AM
4 hrs ago

Also, voter suppression tactics tend to affect traditionally Democratic voters more.

Overly simplified, the reasoning is that Republican voters tend to be wealthier. They tend to have jobs that allow time off to vote without penalty, or they are retired or stay at home wives who can easily find time to go to the polls.

In contrast, overly simplified, many Democrats work jobs that require time cards or specific shifts that don't allow flexibility for time off to vote. Disabled people find it difficult to vote in person. Rural people may have to drive long distances to the polls. Poorer people often don't have access to transportation. They may be caring for older people or children at home and be unable to go to the polls. Health care providers may work long shifts on Election Day that make it impossible for them to get to the polls to vote in person.

Republican tricks like closing polling places, limiting voting hours, and stocking polling sites in Democratic precincts with too few machines limit access further.

Voting by mail is a simple solution that equalizes access to voting. That's why it's being demonized and destroyed by the Republicans.

Wounded Bear

(64,844 posts)
7. Vote by mail also prevents the polling place intimidation tactics they plan to use...nt
Sat Jun 27, 2026, 01:27 PM
2 hrs ago
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