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ChicagoTeamster

(1,222 posts)
Tue May 12, 2026, 06:09 PM 9 hrs ago

Anyone notice how Trump hasn't ranted about the expense of the Iran war?

Last edited Tue May 12, 2026, 06:46 PM - Edit history (2)

He constantly complains about how much it costs the US to support Ukraine even though it was only 5% of the total US defense budget and Europe paid for a lot of it. We gave them our older tanks and infantry fighting vehicles and ordnance that was about to expire. But Israel has been getting over 3 billion per year for the last 50 years plus the US stores equipment and spare parts which they are allowed to use. We just sent a huge resupply stockpile to them. Has Trump complained about the expense there in Israel?

Look at what we spent in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait since Desert Storm and through the global war on terror after 9/11.

Ukraine is fighting for their lives after being invaded by the US greatest adversary. After everything the US spent during WWII and then after militarily plus the Marshall Plan, Berlin Airlift etc and Korea, Vietnam (we covered 70% of France's expenses in Vietnam after WWII until they were kicked out in 57) Reagan's arms buildup that brought down the Berlin wall and drove Russia out of Europe and eventually breaking up the Soviet Union.

Just keeping them armed and equipped and providing intel could cause collapse and regime change in Russia so that the US and Western Europe can finally be free from Russia's threat after all the money and the lives already spent. But Trump complains about supporting them.

Yet Trump and Hegseth have significantly depleted the US inventory of key, high-cost, and long-range missiles, with 50% to 80% of some key munitions used. Key expenditures include over 1,000 Tomahawk missiles, 1,200+ Patriot interceptors, and ~1,100 JASSM-ER stealth missiles. Over 35 US personnel have been killed and our logistics footprint in the Gulf has been almost obliterated.

Is Trump complaining about that cost? How much has Israel paid to the US to cover all of this? (No, I don't mean AIPAC bribes to US Congress Members).

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Anyone notice how Trump hasn't ranted about the expense of the Iran war? (Original Post) ChicagoTeamster 9 hrs ago OP
I'd imagine Trump believes it's all a wise investment AZJonnie 7 hrs ago #1
U.S. Intelligence Shows Iran Retains Substantial Missile Capabilities (New York Times Gift Article) LetMyPeopleVote 7 hrs ago #2

AZJonnie

(3,990 posts)
1. I'd imagine Trump believes it's all a wise investment
Tue May 12, 2026, 07:57 PM
7 hrs ago

Because in the end, he believes the USA and Russia, in a joint venture, will be able to steal all of Iran's oil.

LetMyPeopleVote

(181,755 posts)
2. U.S. Intelligence Shows Iran Retains Substantial Missile Capabilities (New York Times Gift Article)
Tue May 12, 2026, 08:37 PM
7 hrs ago

Secret new assessments say Iran has operational access to 30 of its 33 missile sites along the Strait of Hormuz, suggesting that its military remains far stronger than President Trump has asserted.



https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/12/us/politics/iran-missiles-us-intelligence.html?unlocked_article_code=1.h1A.lLIv.YeCzsv8a1hFI&smid=tw-share

The Trump administration’s public portrayal of a shattered Iranian military is sharply at odds with what U.S. intelligence agencies are telling policymakers behind closed doors, according to classified assessments from early this month that show Iran has regained access to most of its missile sites, launchers and underground facilities.

Most alarming to some senior officials is evidence that Iran has restored operational access to 30 of the 33 missile sites it maintains along the Strait of Hormuz, which could threaten American warships and oil tankers transiting the narrow waterway.

People with knowledge of the assessments said they show — to varying degrees, depending on the level of damage incurred at the different sites — that the Iranians can use mobile launchers that are inside the sites to move missiles to other locations. In some cases they can launch missiles directly from launchpads that are part of the facilities. Only three of the missile sites along the strait remain totally inaccessible, according to the assessments.

Iran still fields about 70 percent of its mobile launchers across the country and has retained roughly 70 percent of its prewar missile stockpile, according to the assessments. That stockpile encompasses both ballistic missiles, which can target other nations in the region, and a smaller supply of cruise missiles, which can be used against shorter-range targets on land or at sea.

Military intelligence agencies have also reported, based on information from multiple collection streams including satellite imagery and other surveillance technologies, that Iran has regained access to roughly 90 percent of its underground missile storage and launch facilities nationwide, which are now assessed to be “partially or fully operational,” the people with knowledge of the assessments said.....

The findings underscore the dilemma Mr. Trump would face if the fragile month-old cease-fire in the conflict collapses and full-scale fighting resumes. The U.S. military has already depleted its stocks of many critical munitions, including Tomahawk cruise missiles, Patriot interceptor missiles, and Precision Strike and ATACMS ground-based missiles, and yet the intelligence suggests that Iran retains considerable military capability, including around the vital Strait of Hormuz......

But Iran’s apparent ability to retain substantial military capacity has exacerbated concerns among U.S. allies about the wisdom of the war and generated criticism among Mr. Trump’s anti-interventionist supporters who opposed getting into the conflict in the first place.

Iran has the military capacity to keep the Strait of Hormuz closed and if necessary destroy all of the petroleum and other infrastructure of our Gulf allies.
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