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(Newsweek) A federal investigation is underway after a video appearing to show a man throwing a large rock toward an endangered Hawaiian monk seal off the coast of Maui sparked widespread outrage online and across Hawaii.
The incident happened last week near Front Street in Lahaina, where an unidentified man targeted a well-known seal named Lani.
Viral Video Sparks Backlash
The footage was recorded by Kaylee Schnitzer, who can be heard confronting the man during the encounter. It shows a man throwing a rock at the seal, which then lurches out of the water as the rock lands either on or close to the animal. Whether the seal was injured in the attack is unclear.
What are you doing? Why would you throw a rock at it? Schnitzer shouted in the video.
Schnitzer said the man took a rock and threw it at the seal's head. She also said the man said he didn't care and said "fine me, I'm rich." The man can later be seen walking away with an unidentified woman. Another clip also shows the man sitting on the beach with a law enforcement officer standing next to him. ....................(more)
https://www.newsweek.com/hawaii-tourist-threw-rock-endangered-seal-everything-we-know-11935789
Maru Kitteh
(31,963 posts)they get out of line. Perhaps our brothers and sisters in Hawaii would like to borrow a few for just a little bit?
Deuxcents
(27,599 posts)whathehell
(30,545 posts)mention are usually the result of those tourists who try to get too "friendly" with the wildlife. In other words, they may be foolish, but generally well intended. This creep actually attempted to hurt the animal. I hope they put his nasty, arrogant ass in jail.
Maru Kitteh
(31,963 posts)Arrogance. Lack of respect. Same as this man. So really? Fuck their pleadings about their intentions. The animals will teach them.
Aristus
(72,485 posts)Lot of stupid entitled people out there. Getting mauled by an animal is too good for them.
whathehell
(30,545 posts)because the rest of us have never acted "stupid" or "entitled" have we?
slightlv
(7,923 posts)But i have never tried to hurt an animal or purposely hurt a human. There is a huge difference.
whathehell
(30,545 posts)when I tried to draw a distinction between foolish, but well intentioned people (like those who try to get too close and/or 'friendly' with the animals) and those who actively try to hurt them like the creep in Hawaii who attacked a seal, I was told I was wrong, that there was essentially no difference and that "being mauled by wild animals was too good for them"
Aristus
(72,485 posts)Why would I pelt a rock at a seal? What would that prove, other than that I would be an unconscionable dickhead if I did?
Why would I try to pet or get a selfie with a bison, or a bear, or any kind of wild animal?
Not all of us are empty-headed wastes of defective human protoplasm...
whathehell
(30,545 posts)I'm not including the creep who threw a rock at the seal..That's less "stupid" in my view than CRUEL, and I despise animal cruelty and those who perpetrate it..Having said that, I don't know that even they
deserve an automatic death penalty.
As to the "stupid" meme, okay, maybe you, along with myself and most others, are not that kind of stupid, but most, if not all of us have been SOME kind of stupid, including the kind engaged in life threatening risks. Ever read "The Darwin Awards"?
What I don't get is the enormous anger being leveled here at people who've most likely already paid a steep price for their stupidity. Anger at cruelty? Absolutely..Anger at "stupidity"?..Not nearly so much.
Maru Kitteh
(31,963 posts)believe that rules and warnings are meant for others and should not apply to them? I mean, you are showing here that you are really, REALLY invested in this. Deeply. Its pretty striking. So why is that.
Aristus
(72,485 posts)and think that people who use logic, and reason, and judgement, and humanity are somehow the problem.
Ignorance I can understand; and it can be cured. Stupidity is just evil without a definite plan.
quinteroon
(12 posts)Interesting...
Maru Kitteh
(31,963 posts)to argue with their choices when they receive the prizes they deserve?
quinteroon
(12 posts)People who taunt animals deserve to find out whatever they fucked around about. If someone just wants to interact with an animal (see it up close) or film it, I have more sympathy. I didn't understand this story. The man threw a rock randomly or did he get startled by the seal and tried to keep it away from himself? 🦭 🪨
MustLoveBeagles
(17,150 posts)whathehell
(30,545 posts)but when judging the 'perpetrators', surely there's a difference between foolish, but well meaning people and those deliberately seeking to hurt, especially when considering the steep price both often pay.
niyad
(133,844 posts)and PURPOSEFULLY IGNORING all the warning signs. In some cases, those animals are killed because they "attacked" a person.
I interact with all sorts of wildlife, and even supposedly "aggressive" domesticated beings, but ALWAYS on their terms. I think that word has gone out about the silly human sucker in their area.
irisblue
(37,809 posts)Skittles
(172,712 posts)I tend to follow the rules because overwhelmingly there seems to be very good reasons for having such rules.
malaise
(297,746 posts)They dont set out to hurt other animals. They are just dumb ass morons.
sdfernando
(6,098 posts)to stop the eruption.
spooky3
(38,835 posts)Swede
(39,979 posts)A tourist identified by multiple local reports as Igor Lytvynchuk, owner of a Washington shipping company, was arrested after throwing a rock at Lani, a beloved Hawaiian monk seal in Maui
https://www.instagram.com/p/DYCqyTDzpkm/
maxsolomon
(39,120 posts)He is NOT a "Seattle Man". More like a Seattle Exurbs Man.
MustLoveBeagles
(17,150 posts)PatSeg
(53,473 posts)because they are "rich", like money means the rules don't apply to them. Unfortunately, it is often true though.
Prairie_Seagull
(4,796 posts)Don't walk...run away.
marmar
(80,011 posts)flvegan
(66,496 posts)Also allegedly, the local with the fists Rated E for Everyone is being treated as a hero.
LetMyPeopleVote
(181,725 posts)That made me smile
flvegan
(66,496 posts)if I'm reading the story properly.
That made me laugh. Also watching the internet do proper internet things to his business is interesting. We'll see how this all turns out for this guy.
Dave Bowman
(7,413 posts)Botany
(77,789 posts)I hope he cracked his ribs.
DFW
(60,406 posts)Cover him in fish blood and toss him in the ocean where great whites have been spotted.
Im rich. Fine me. OK, feeding him to the sharks sounds fine to me.
His name sounds very Ukrainian by the way. He does well to hang out about as far from Ukrainian territory as he possibly can and still be in the Northern Hemisphere.
Hawaii is home to approximately 40 species of sharks, ranging from small deep water species to large apex predators like tiger sharks.
No Great Whites in the area...several Tiger sharks will do just fine, though...
Bettie
(19,843 posts)Why would you throw a rock at any animal?
What is wrong with people....that's rhetorical, because far too many of them are just awful!
Dave Bowman
(7,413 posts)Melon
(1,647 posts)Where mire beatings await. That would have been a horrible death for that seal, and he didnt care because he is rich.
Silver Gaia
(5,414 posts)In the Newsweek video she was shown floating and not moving afterward. I am worried about her.
Silver Gaia
(5,414 posts)MustLoveBeagles
(17,150 posts)I'm glad she's okay.
Silver Gaia
(5,414 posts)MustLoveBeagles
(17,150 posts)Jacson6
(2,172 posts)Joinfortmill
(21,600 posts)Fil1957
(851 posts)COL Mustard
(8,363 posts)I hate people sometimes.
Dollars to donuts he's a Trumper. And I like donuts.
Buddyzbuddy
(2,844 posts)his storage facilities, closets, backyard.
Intent on causing harm without remorse.
He's damaged.
niyad
(133,844 posts)StarryNite
(12,166 posts)I hope the seal is okay but somebody said it wasn't moving.
niyad
(133,844 posts)StarryNite
(12,166 posts)Figarosmom
(13,136 posts)niyad
(133,844 posts)Kid Berwyn
(24,993 posts)Fine him for all he's got. Then he won't be.
electric_blue68
(27,200 posts)GoCubsGo
(34,985 posts)Give him a taste of his own medicine.
MustLoveBeagles
(17,150 posts)I don't like violence normally but he deserved it.
electric_blue68
(27,200 posts)You just don't do sh!t like that!
Unfortunately, there are nasty, and cruel people in this world!
The year before covid there was a young ? harbor seal that spent the summer up in Inwood Park's east to west Sputen Dyvil waters (between The Harlem, and Hudson River).
As far I heard no one did anything to it. I have people in the area, but I came up extra to watch it as others did. It was delighful!
3_Limes
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niyad
(133,844 posts)Time for a few emails/texts.