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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums"Breaking" The Economist poll has Trump
Under water by 19 points in Texas. I can't find the numbers for some reason.
durablend
(9,355 posts)"I'M POLLING A THOUSAND PERCENT!!! PEOPLE DROP TO THEIR KNEES THANKING ME FOR ALL I'VE DONE!!!!"
Renew Deal
(85,324 posts)dem4decades
(14,346 posts)ProfessorGAC
(77,210 posts)Other than rigging, if course?
Are we presuming that some independents would still vote from despite disapproving? Because tye D is so toxic in Texas?
Asking genuinely because I'm not sure how you arrived at that conclusion.
dem4decades
(14,346 posts)They'd rather shoot themselves in the foot than vote for a liberal. And anyone that isn't Trump is a liberal to them.
If Trump was really that far underwater, don't you think the Republicans in congress would stand up to him?
ProfessorGAC
(77,210 posts)The cult hasn't turned on him. These polls don't reflect the "only Trump" voters. They reflect everyone else.
It's independents who voted for him.
If independents never voted for a dem/liberal, Obama & Biden wouldn't have won, and Hillary wouldn't have won the popular vote.
Besides, nearly every poll, national & regional, has him underwater on nearly every issue.
Why would this poll be an outlier?
As to your last question, Rs in Congress are worried about being primaries. Standing up to him has nothing to do with their confidence, or lack thereof, in polls. It's about protecting their cushy jobs against resistance from the right.
Finally, remember that even in 2024, The Failure only achieved a plurality win. It's not like some overwhelming majority thought he was a good choice. He lost the popular vote in '16 & '20, and won without a majority in '24.
Sure doesn't suggest invincibility.
Johonny
(26,547 posts)Remains to be seen.
SSJVegeta
(3,059 posts)erronis
(24,463 posts)a questionnaire on how/why he's scored so favorably, if most of them don't know anything about what he's actually done - just what he says he's "gonna" do.
SSJVegeta
(3,059 posts)If these numbers are real (and the economist is generally reliable), there isnt really anything stopping a complete all out GOP rout.
GoodRaisin
(11,028 posts)For example, like raping E. Jean Carroll. Or denying that he is a felon. Or denying that he started the War in Iran. Or denying that he starved children in Sudan to death.
erronis
(24,463 posts)SSJVegeta
(3,059 posts)WarGamer
(18,837 posts)videohead5
(2,994 posts)He's going to have a hell of a time making it to 2028.
SSJVegeta
(3,059 posts)...is not a great place to be in. And not a place any president has been in almost any of our lifetimes!
EnergizedLib
(3,133 posts)Its the red governors, red legislatures and corrupt judges and justices who scare me right now.
Even if people want to vote for us right now, will we be rewarded?