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edhopper

(37,357 posts)
Sat Mar 28, 2026, 11:11 AM 4 hrs ago

The 3.5% rule and today's protests

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3.5%25_rule

The 3.5% rule is a concept in political science that states that when 3.5% of the population of a country protest nonviolently against an authoritarian government, that government is likely to fall from power.


I think we will exceed the 12 million to achieve this. But then what?
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The 3.5% rule and today's protests (Original Post) edhopper 4 hrs ago OP
call, write , show up at Rver 4 hrs ago #1
That rule does not apply in the US and to the Trump regime. drray23 4 hrs ago #2
It is true - without a big economic impact it's generally just a news story. David__77 2 hrs ago #6
And often edhopper 2 hrs ago #7
It's not a 'liberal' protest GenThePerservering 32 min ago #15
I disagree cally 1 hr ago #10
Message auto-removed Name removed 1 hr ago #13
There's a difference between peaceful protests and non-violent protests. Lars39 4 hrs ago #3
So many people don't sign up Bettie 4 hrs ago #4
This time it may be the small towns that have the most impact karynnj 3 hrs ago #5
Indivisible has a system to do their counts cally 1 hr ago #11
I am baffled more Republicans haven't turned Eddie Haskell 60 1 hr ago #8
Fear of Trump edhopper 1 hr ago #14
2013 (the study year) was an eternity ago gulliver 1 hr ago #9
I listened to a podcast with the academicians who cally 1 hr ago #12
It's not about instant gratification GenThePerservering 30 min ago #16
Not sure why you are being edhopper 20 min ago #17

Rver

(268 posts)
1. call, write , show up at
Sat Mar 28, 2026, 11:22 AM
4 hrs ago

your congress critters office. I'm sure that some of the 12 million can show up locally at a representative or senators office. We do it in Lincoln 2x a week.
My .02

NO KINGS!!!

drray23

(8,742 posts)
2. That rule does not apply in the US and to the Trump regime.
Sat Mar 28, 2026, 11:25 AM
4 hrs ago

They do not give a damm about public opinion. The only way to have effective protests would be to do what is done in other countries.
That is, not on a weekend but during the week, paralizing the economy, transportation, etc.. See Arab Spring, Orange Revolution, French Yellow vests, etc..

Each time there is a major uprising in France and people take to the streets for days, the government always has to relent.

Here, the only benefit the No King protests might have is to motivate people to go vote. It does not have any effect on the current administration.

cally

(21,868 posts)
10. I disagree
Sat Mar 28, 2026, 01:40 PM
1 hr ago

Congress is seeing the consequences of supporting the dictatorship. The Indivisible goal is to have protests all over and not just to get huge numbers in large cities. Protest is not enough but if you go, you will find lots of opportunity to get involved further.

We have already seen changes. I will also listen to the experts like Heather Cox Richardson, many, many political organizers, etc. who all stress how important today is!

Response to drray23 (Reply #2)

Lars39

(26,537 posts)
3. There's a difference between peaceful protests and non-violent protests.
Sat Mar 28, 2026, 11:25 AM
4 hrs ago

After today’s peaceful protest? People go back to their communities and figure out how to be the sand in the cogs, ie, non-violent protests. 🙂

Bettie

(19,684 posts)
4. So many people don't sign up
Sat Mar 28, 2026, 11:30 AM
4 hrs ago

and they seem to only count signups.

We have always had drop ins.

Unfortunately, our country is so geographically large that 12 million people doesn't look like that many spread out over so many states and cities.

It's easier in Europe, for example, where nearly everyone can get to the capitol in a few hours on public transport!

We need to keep going, but expect the media to act like it was just a few small protests....nothing to see here, I mean, look at who owns the media and how hard they are fluffing that orange bag of snot.

karynnj

(60,958 posts)
5. This time it may be the small towns that have the most impact
Sat Mar 28, 2026, 12:20 PM
3 hrs ago

People know it is ALWAYS easy to get big protests in places like DC and NYC etc. it is also easier when everyone goes to one big place, even for Republicans that mostly have to come from a distance.

Here is why I think it matters in small towns and suburbs. Because most of us, especially those who are older, grew up with the maxim that you should not talk politics or religion when at neighborhood parties. Many people might think they are a minority because they don't see that others are concerned.

This would definitely apply to the upper middle class suburb that we lived in in NJ. Obviously less so in Burlington, VT where many are to the left of us and people speak out very often.

Especially if the protesters are welcoming others to join, many people who thought they were alone could see neighbors they didn't know felt like them.

cally

(21,868 posts)
11. Indivisible has a system to do their counts
Sat Mar 28, 2026, 01:42 PM
1 hr ago

that includes experts. Yes, some guess work but it is not just sign ups but organizers give headcounts, even small protests count!

Eddie Haskell 60

(88 posts)
8. I am baffled more Republicans haven't turned
Sat Mar 28, 2026, 01:34 PM
1 hr ago

They already know they will get slaughtered in the mid-terms but I can't figure out why they're not taking more action to stop the unconstitutional and unpopular war that's about to get thousands of our soldiers killed and tank our economy even more.

gulliver

(13,964 posts)
9. 2013 (the study year) was an eternity ago
Sat Mar 28, 2026, 01:38 PM
1 hr ago

Social media and smart phones were not yet fully recognized as the mental and social health menaces they clearly are. We hadn't had COVID yet. We're in a completely different world.

cally

(21,868 posts)
12. I listened to a podcast with the academicians who
Sat Mar 28, 2026, 01:43 PM
1 hr ago

first wrote about this and it was NOT one point in time but decades. And they still are working on this

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