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spooky3

(38,291 posts)
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 04:32 PM Wednesday

During Rachel Maddow's special, Prof. Timothy Snyder

Said he feared that the country would split apart (eg, blue states v red states). Anyone else agree?

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During Rachel Maddow's special, Prof. Timothy Snyder (Original Post) spooky3 Wednesday OP
How can we get this to happen? Freddie Wednesday #1
If blue state governors are not very quietly rzemanfl Wednesday #3
I think we care one step closer to it. IzzaNuDay Wednesday #2
One factor he suggested IIRC was that blue states essentially financially subsidize spooky3 Wednesday #5
We are in the midst of a Civil War. Irish_Dem Wednesday #4
And Putin and Trump canetoad Wednesday #10
Yes they want Europe to break up and NATO. Irish_Dem Wednesday #11
more like balkanization rampartd Wednesday #6
An interesting point--because that is the real divide spooky3 Wednesday #8
I trust his perspective PatSeg Wednesday #7
Right now, I'd vote for Michigan joining Canada. multigraincracker Wednesday #9
Washington, Oregon, California are likely IzzaNuDay Wednesday #12

rzemanfl

(31,148 posts)
3. If blue state governors are not very quietly
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 05:02 PM
Wednesday

discussing secession, I'd be very surprised.

IzzaNuDay

(1,241 posts)
2. I think we care one step closer to it.
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 04:37 PM
Wednesday

We were fragmented for the last 9 years. Nah, let’s rewind to 2008 starting with the Tea Party. And the birtherism, the racism, the callousness, the greed. What would be the breaking point?

spooky3

(38,291 posts)
5. One factor he suggested IIRC was that blue states essentially financially subsidize
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 05:13 PM
Wednesday

Red states, generally speaking. At some point citizens may get sick of this, on top of everything else.

Irish_Dem

(79,922 posts)
11. Yes they want Europe to break up and NATO.
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 06:24 PM
Wednesday

And all the democratic countries no longer to be aligned

rampartd

(3,857 posts)
6. more like balkanization
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 05:16 PM
Wednesday

at least 6 warring blocs, and not neatly divided by state lines.

civil war 2 will be cities vs countryside

PatSeg

(52,226 posts)
7. I trust his perspective
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 05:16 PM
Wednesday

If Snyder sees us splitting apart, it is a reasonable possibility.

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