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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHe pulled his gun to try and get her to stop when she didn't
He opened fire. He was not in danger. He shot her to stop her from leaving.
markodochartaigh
(5,030 posts)I think that that should be proof that she wasn't trying to run over him. An officer can shoot a fleeing suspect only if the suspect has committed a felony. Attempting to run over an officer would be a felony. But if he shot through the side window and wasn't trying to run over him, the charge might be obstruction of ICE. But is that a felony?
Sneederbunk
(17,259 posts)BruceWane
(383 posts)1st shot through the windshield, very close to the driver side edge. 2 more through the open side window as the vehicle passed by.
There's video showing that the shooter was clearly to the side of the driver side fender when the first shot was fired. It appears he was not hit by the vehicle at all.
It was murder.
Melon
(1,091 posts)Where the wheel is pointed etc. wont matter because officers will not be looking at the wheels. Acceleration forward while officers are engaged is where the debate will be. Did the officers believe that the vehicle was being used as a weapon or placed them in a dangerous situation. Looks like a lot of camera angles so they have plenty to use.
mr715
(2,727 posts)Ritabert
(1,997 posts)She had stopped and backed up to get around the stopped vehicle. As she was pulling around it he shot her. She wasn't aiming at him.
allegorical oracle
(6,187 posts)car abandoned there? Where did that driver go? Lots of questions yet to be answered.
John1956PA
(4,823 posts)I think the shooter had set up some kind of makeshift checkpoint, or at least focussed on Ms. Good's car for some reason and caused her to stop. The engine was probably running throughout. He stood in front of her car. The other two agents arrived. One was belligerent and frightened her. She backed up to clear the agent in front of her. She went forward at a rightward angle. The agent in front of her then started shooting.
Ritabert
(1,997 posts)ananda
(34,435 posts)All he had to do was... nothing.
off-the-clock
(334 posts)Last edited Wed Jan 7, 2026, 08:58 PM - Edit history (1)
I hope they get police protection to the passenger
Edit -- no passenger. Early reports said passenger and child, then passenger and dog. Turns out there were stuffed animals in the passenger seat. Sorry to mislead and thanks for pointing it out
Johonny
(25,471 posts)They will try to get his ass to Florida and then no one will touch him, no matter what the state tries. We are a lawless country, I fear.
newdeal2
(4,783 posts)Somehow Ashli B. was a hero.
Melon
(1,091 posts)The other officers would review based on whether there was an imminent threat of death or serious bodily injury to the officers. Car counts as a dangerous weapon same as a gun.
Bayard
(28,589 posts)I haven't seen that anywhere.
tblue37
(68,188 posts)Bayard
(28,589 posts)She can testify to Ms. Good's mindset, the exact placement of the gunman, and the unfolding of events. She definitely needs to be taken into protective custody. Noem can't stop that.
Blues Heron
(8,388 posts)Blues Heron
(8,388 posts)Tribetime
(7,058 posts)allegorical oracle
(6,187 posts)ranks that as a capital offense worthy of the death penalty.
Klarkashton
(4,736 posts)To get around it to get out of there
The bastards ran over to it and then shot her.
Efilroft Sul
(4,317 posts)MarineCombatEngineer
(17,733 posts)and no LEA teaches that in any police academy.
During my 2 years as a Marine cop, it was stressed that never shoot at a tire, that's just Hollywood nonsense.
Efilroft Sul
(4,317 posts)MarineCombatEngineer
(17,733 posts)the videos I've seen so far shows no remorse or regret, he's a cold blooded killer who should be arrested, charged, prosecuted and convicted for 1st degree murder and sentenced to life in prison at a maximum security state prison, not a Fed. prison where Trumpedo can pardon him.
Efilroft Sul
(4,317 posts)I'm trying real hard here to not be consumed by the anger and the sadness, while at the same time I'm not surprised that something like this happened. Trump made this crap inevitable.
Melon
(1,091 posts)malaise
(292,830 posts)to kill her
Good was killed by an evil monster MAGAt
superpatriotman
(6,807 posts)Every problem looks like a target
NickB79
(20,247 posts)It's a 3000 lb mass of metal with momentum. A bullet won't stop it. Shooting the driver doesn't usually stop it. Shooting the tires doesn't immediately stop it.
Moral of the story: don't step in front of a moving vehicle.
RockRaven
(18,726 posts)It is punishment or vengeance or sadism, but not self defense because the firearm simply cannot accomplish that.
RockRaven
(18,726 posts)The self defense bullshittery is just the magic words the Roberts KKKourt (and predecessors) have trained those murderers to parrot to get away with murder.
They ruled that in self defense, even if the guy already has his gun or knife or whatever drawn and pointed at you and is coming at you you must first try to evade before even drawing a weapon, even in your home. It was the light rail shooting. Wonder how/if this will apply here?
womanofthehills
(10,717 posts)They are giving untrained psychos guns. Here is a good view of shooting. Senator Ed Markey comments:
If you aren't angry, you aren't paying attention. A woman was murdered by ICE in Minneapolis today. This should outrage us all. ICE out of our cities now.
Link to tweet
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