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boston bean

(36,873 posts)
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 04:28 PM Wednesday

He pulled his gun to try and get her to stop when she didn't

He opened fire. He was not in danger. He shot her to stop her from leaving.

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He pulled his gun to try and get her to stop when she didn't (Original Post) boston bean Wednesday OP
If the shots were through the side window markodochartaigh Wednesday #1
There was a shot through the windshield. Sneederbunk Wednesday #3
3 shots fired BruceWane Wednesday #7
A vehicle is considered a dangerous weapon, same as a gun Melon Wednesday #17
Murdered her, simple. nt mr715 Wednesday #2
She had been ordered to get outta there Ritabert Wednesday #4
That stopped car to the right of her vehicle had its driver door open. Why was that allegorical oracle Wednesday #22
I think it was the shooter's car. I think he got back in it afterwards. John1956PA Wednesday #33
That makes sense. Ritabert Yesterday #34
Yes, he wasn't hurt and wasn't in any danger. ananda Wednesday #5
He's going to be sorry he did it in front of witnesses off-the-clock Wednesday #6
It is Trump America, so not optimistic Johonny Wednesday #8
J6 proved you right newdeal2 Wednesday #9
Local authorities should handle the investigation Melon Wednesday #18
There was a passenger??? Bayard Wednesday #10
Apparently the woman's wife was in the passenger seat, if the articles I have read are accurate. tblue37 Wednesday #23
Well.....that changes things Bayard Yesterday #35
Her wife was in the car with her Blues Heron Wednesday #27
Her wife was in the car and got blood on her face, there's a video shot by a neighbor of her. She says she's the wife Blues Heron Wednesday #26
What crime did she commit in the first place that caused them to approach her Tribetime Wednesday #11
Only response I've heard all p.m. is that she was blocking the road. Guess ICE allegorical oracle Wednesday #24
There was some car blocking the road. Looked like she was trying Klarkashton Wednesday #29
Shooting the tires is never an option when ICE is trigger-happy. Efilroft Sul Wednesday #12
Shooting the tires is never an option, the bullet could ricochet and hit an innocent bystander MarineCombatEngineer Wednesday #13
Good to know. So what's your read-out of the shooter? Efilroft Sul Wednesday #14
My take is that he was just itching to shoot someone, MarineCombatEngineer Wednesday #15
Same here, MCE, more or less. Efilroft Sul Wednesday #16
It's never an option period. It would do nothing. Melon Wednesday #19
He shot her in the face malaise Wednesday #20
When your only tool is a gun superpatriotman Wednesday #21
Shooting a vehicle NEVER stops it NickB79 Wednesday #25
The other moral of that story is that self defense claims in such cases are inherently lies. RockRaven Wednesday #31
He killed for perceived disobedience. Because he wanted to, and could. RockRaven Wednesday #28
MNSC OC375 Wednesday #30
He killed because he's a psychopath womanofthehills Wednesday #32

markodochartaigh

(5,030 posts)
1. If the shots were through the side window
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 04:34 PM
Wednesday

I think that that should be proof that she wasn't trying to run over him. An officer can shoot a fleeing suspect only if the suspect has committed a felony. Attempting to run over an officer would be a felony. But if he shot through the side window and wasn't trying to run over him, the charge might be obstruction of ICE. But is that a felony?

BruceWane

(383 posts)
7. 3 shots fired
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 05:55 PM
Wednesday

1st shot through the windshield, very close to the driver side edge. 2 more through the open side window as the vehicle passed by.

There's video showing that the shooter was clearly to the side of the driver side fender when the first shot was fired. It appears he was not hit by the vehicle at all.

It was murder.

Melon

(1,091 posts)
17. A vehicle is considered a dangerous weapon, same as a gun
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 08:06 PM
Wednesday

Where the wheel is pointed etc. won’t matter because officers will not be looking at the wheels. Acceleration forward while officers are engaged is where the debate will be. Did the officers believe that the vehicle was being used as a weapon or placed them in a dangerous situation. Looks like a lot of camera angles so they have plenty to use.

Ritabert

(1,997 posts)
4. She had been ordered to get outta there
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 04:52 PM
Wednesday

She had stopped and backed up to get around the stopped vehicle. As she was pulling around it he shot her. She wasn't aiming at him.

allegorical oracle

(6,187 posts)
22. That stopped car to the right of her vehicle had its driver door open. Why was that
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 09:02 PM
Wednesday

car abandoned there? Where did that driver go? Lots of questions yet to be answered.

John1956PA

(4,823 posts)
33. I think it was the shooter's car. I think he got back in it afterwards.
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 11:06 PM
Wednesday

I think the shooter had set up some kind of makeshift checkpoint, or at least focussed on Ms. Good's car for some reason and caused her to stop. The engine was probably running throughout. He stood in front of her car. The other two agents arrived. One was belligerent and frightened her. She backed up to clear the agent in front of her. She went forward at a rightward angle. The agent in front of her then started shooting.

off-the-clock

(334 posts)
6. He's going to be sorry he did it in front of witnesses
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 05:10 PM
Wednesday

Last edited Wed Jan 7, 2026, 08:58 PM - Edit history (1)

I hope they get police protection to the passenger

Edit -- no passenger. Early reports said passenger and child, then passenger and dog. Turns out there were stuffed animals in the passenger seat. Sorry to mislead and thanks for pointing it out

Johonny

(25,471 posts)
8. It is Trump America, so not optimistic
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 05:58 PM
Wednesday

They will try to get his ass to Florida and then no one will touch him, no matter what the state tries. We are a lawless country, I fear.

Melon

(1,091 posts)
18. Local authorities should handle the investigation
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 08:09 PM
Wednesday

The other officers would review based on whether there was an imminent threat of death or serious bodily injury to the officers. Car counts as a dangerous weapon same as a gun.

tblue37

(68,188 posts)
23. Apparently the woman's wife was in the passenger seat, if the articles I have read are accurate.
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 09:02 PM
Wednesday

Bayard

(28,589 posts)
35. Well.....that changes things
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 01:01 PM
Yesterday

She can testify to Ms. Good's mindset, the exact placement of the gunman, and the unfolding of events. She definitely needs to be taken into protective custody. Noem can't stop that.

Blues Heron

(8,388 posts)
26. Her wife was in the car and got blood on her face, there's a video shot by a neighbor of her. She says she's the wife
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 10:14 PM
Wednesday

allegorical oracle

(6,187 posts)
24. Only response I've heard all p.m. is that she was blocking the road. Guess ICE
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 09:05 PM
Wednesday

ranks that as a capital offense worthy of the death penalty.

Klarkashton

(4,736 posts)
29. There was some car blocking the road. Looked like she was trying
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 10:22 PM
Wednesday

To get around it to get out of there
The bastards ran over to it and then shot her.

MarineCombatEngineer

(17,733 posts)
13. Shooting the tires is never an option, the bullet could ricochet and hit an innocent bystander
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 07:41 PM
Wednesday

and no LEA teaches that in any police academy.

During my 2 years as a Marine cop, it was stressed that never shoot at a tire, that's just Hollywood nonsense.

MarineCombatEngineer

(17,733 posts)
15. My take is that he was just itching to shoot someone,
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 08:01 PM
Wednesday

the videos I've seen so far shows no remorse or regret, he's a cold blooded killer who should be arrested, charged, prosecuted and convicted for 1st degree murder and sentenced to life in prison at a maximum security state prison, not a Fed. prison where Trumpedo can pardon him.

Efilroft Sul

(4,317 posts)
16. Same here, MCE, more or less.
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 08:06 PM
Wednesday

I'm trying real hard here to not be consumed by the anger and the sadness, while at the same time I'm not surprised that something like this happened. Trump made this crap inevitable.

NickB79

(20,247 posts)
25. Shooting a vehicle NEVER stops it
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 10:11 PM
Wednesday

It's a 3000 lb mass of metal with momentum. A bullet won't stop it. Shooting the driver doesn't usually stop it. Shooting the tires doesn't immediately stop it.

Moral of the story: don't step in front of a moving vehicle.

RockRaven

(18,726 posts)
31. The other moral of that story is that self defense claims in such cases are inherently lies.
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 10:39 PM
Wednesday

It is punishment or vengeance or sadism, but not self defense because the firearm simply cannot accomplish that.

RockRaven

(18,726 posts)
28. He killed for perceived disobedience. Because he wanted to, and could.
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 10:17 PM
Wednesday

The self defense bullshittery is just the magic words the Roberts KKKourt (and predecessors) have trained those murderers to parrot to get away with murder.

OC375

(446 posts)
30. MNSC
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 10:37 PM
Wednesday

They ruled that in self defense, even if the guy already has his gun or knife or whatever drawn and pointed at you and is coming at you… you must first try to evade before even drawing a weapon, even in your home. It was the light rail shooting. Wonder how/if this will apply here?

womanofthehills

(10,717 posts)
32. He killed because he's a psychopath
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 10:45 PM
Wednesday

They are giving untrained psychos guns. Here is a good view of shooting. Senator Ed Markey comments:

If you aren't angry, you aren't paying attention. A woman was murdered by ICE in Minneapolis today. This should outrage us all. ICE out of our cities now.


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