These Judges Are Warning Us We're on the Fast Track to Martial Law

[SamuelTheThird]

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2025/10/trump-news-judges-warning-martial-law.html

[Fiendish Thingy]

1. Nationwide martial law is a physical impossibility

Trump can’t even lockdown LA, Chicago or Portland.

Invoke the insurrection act, and then what?

There aren’t enough troops and ICE thugs to control 340 million people across this vast continent.

Remember this one absolute truth:

Trump is not omnipotent, and the states and the people are not powerless.

[Qutzupalotl]

2. They don't need to control 340 million people

or nationwide martial law. They only need to intimidate people in certain areas from voting in order to cement their power for the next term of Congress. They have that capability.

[Trueblue1968]

3. There are MORE of US than there are ofthem. Lots of Them will turn to ourside

Because they think go ballistic when Rump tries to take their guns.

[BeerBarrelPolka]

4. I know a

staunch MAGA right winger with guns. When he got slapped with an Order of Protection here in Illinois, law enforcement came for his guns. He gave them up without a fuss.

[appmanga]

5. You can't be serious...

...martial law isn't a question of numbers, it's question of power. If the military brutally puts down one perceived rebellion, that could likely be enough to dissuade any others. Domestic "insurrectionists" aren't protected by the Geneva Conventions, and we've witnessed what this cabal is willing to do in terms of life-taking extra-judicial activities by their acts against "drug dealers" in boats far outside its territory.

It amazes me how there are people who continue to whistle in the graveyard while this lawless regime pushes the envelope further and further into dictatorship. The so-called not powerless entities you name have so far been powerless in getting an abatement to most of Trump's actions. Although I agree with you on not being powerless, fighting back is going to take more than marches and witty expressions of displeasure. These are ruthless and dangerous people. Their fellow travelers, willing and/or co-opted, know this. It seems like it's only their opposition who gives them the benefit of the doubt.

[Fiendish Thingy]

6. So, you're suggesting Trump will order mass slaughter of civilians?

And that the military will comply?

So far, Trump has executed about 50 civilians from other nations.

How many Americans do you think he could get away with murdering before suffering repercussions?

Do.The.Math.

There are 340 million of us, just 1.3 million active duty military, mostly overseas.

Have you read about the 3.5% rule?

Any attempt at enforcing nationwide martial law through widespread violence will trigger a response that will make the No Kings protests look like small intimate gatherings.

The economy would collapse, and the moneyed interests would demand Trump be removed from office.

These are ruthless and dangerous people.

Perhaps, but that is outweighed by their stupidity, incompetence and desire for self preservation.

A couple of Kent State/Bloody Sunday incidents, and he would be removed, guaranteed, if he wasn’t assassinated first by someone on the inside. Which is why it won’t happen.

So much insanity has been normalized during the Trump era, but not that, not mass murder of American civilians by the military ordered by the president.

It would unite the people against this administration.

I’d say the odds are better that somebody from the military or intelligence community kills Trump, Vance, and Hegseth before any significant number of troops obeys an order to shoot civilians.

And neither will happen.

[appmanga]

7. This guy has been trying to manufacture his version...

...of a Reichstag Fire for months.

Any attempt at enforcing nationwide martial law through widespread violence will trigger a response that will make the No Kings protests look like small intimate gatherings.

I don't doubt the possibility of this regime to do anything, and it may well be his own supporters, out of anger with the bankruptcies, lay-offs, and lack of government assistance, who'll think they can address some of these issues by parading with their rifles and sidearms who get met with deadly force in opposition to an "insurrection". Their answer to your scenario is "Go ahead, make my day".

And that the military will comply?

The military is complying today with the obviously unlawful order to kill civilians piloting civilian seacraft, giving them no chance for arrest or surrender. You think there's some sort of conscience that will be applied to people just because they're in this country?

These folks are all-in, and you're mistaken if you believe they have some fucks to give.

[Fiendish Thingy]

8. You just characterized the entire US armed forces as mindless, traitorous psychopaths

All 1.3 million of them.

Which means your opinions are not to be taken seriously.

So, to sum up:

You believe the military, on Trump’s orders, will commit mass murder of US civilians, repeatedly.

That these acts of mass murder will cow the American people into submission, and nobody, not the courts, the congress, the intelligence community, the press, nobody will do anything to stop it, because Trump cannot be stopped.

Your logic is seriously flawed, but your cynical defeatism is noted for the record.

For everyone else, never forget this one absolute truth:

Trump is not omnipotent, or invincible, and the states and the people are not powerless.

[appmanga]

10. Is your next act to howl at the moon?

If, in your mind, I've characterized the entire military as whatever, that's on you. For now, the military are following illegal orders to perform extrajudicial killings that are proudly broadcast in hi-def, but there's supposed to be skepticism that they'll just say "No" to other illegal orders.

It up to you as to what you take seriously. I'm basing my beliefs on what has actually happened. But thank goodness we have tough guys like you to stand in the breech.

[Fiendish Thingy]

11. It will take the courage of many to resist this regime

Sorry to hear you have surrendered in advance; presuming the inevitability of Trump remaining in office based on a very selective, defeatist perception of “what has actually happened” helps create a permission structure for him to do just that.

Drawing the conclusion that, because a select few in the chain of command have executed unlawful orders to murder about 50 civilian foreign nationals, predicts the willingness of the entire military, or a significant portion, to murder thousands of American civilians is seriously flawed logic.

Meanwhile, millions see the bigger picture of widespread resistance from both the institutions and the people, and do what they can, big or small, to add to the movement, despite discouraging, defeatist prognostications such as yours.

To you and others reading this thread, I suggest reading this post on the dangers of defeatism and the power of positive actions and words:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220753118

[flamingdem]

9. They could stage a rebellion

and squash it. So many ways to work their plan.