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Pluvious

(5,121 posts)
Fri Oct 24, 2025, 01:08 PM Friday

The Alt National Park Service's response to Trump's unilateral demolition...

Last edited Sat Oct 25, 2025, 01:07 PM - Edit history (3)






Meanwhile (Filipkowski points out) "Burchett is Burchetting again"



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Edit to add: Clarification of who the "Alt NPS" is is kindly provided in the sub-thread replies below beginning at:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220746427#post18

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In regards to the Joint Chiefs...




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The Alt National Park Service's response to Trump's unilateral demolition... (Original Post) Pluvious Friday OP
I have been thinking that very thing Walleye Friday #1
Exactly! pandr32 13 hrs ago #53
So the Divine President isn't supposed to just call a guy he knows who has a bulldozer tanyev Friday #2
They won't get stiffed. It's not his money. Marcuse 18 hrs ago #45
Anyone involved in this needs to be heavily fined and jailed. travelingthrulife 16 hrs ago #48
Can you imagine the howl of indignation if Presidents Obama or Biden had done this. patphil Friday #3
It's hard to believe... Pluvious Friday #4
So ... it's not odd at all that the evidence of the "Obama Era" construction is a black-and-white photo ??? eppur_se_muova Friday #5
KnR Hekate Friday #6
If only the ALT Naional Park Service were the real PS. Sadly, trump is likely under no obligation to follow tradition. Silent Type Friday #7
Does the OP really think Alt NPS on Facebook is the real NPS? maxsolomon Friday #12
Not just the OP. So many here on DU have been duped for ages by that sus account. Celerity Friday #32
Gawd yeah. But guess if I have to read misinformation or outright distortions, Dems are doing it for good cause. Silent Type Friday #33
Hyperbolic slippery-slope binary speculation is my favorite. maxsolomon Friday #34
It is not a sus account h2ebits Friday #39
Is what they are posting inaccurate? travelingthrulife 16 hrs ago #49
On The Bright Side modrepub Friday #8
It won't be shoddy. McCrery is a real architect (albeit one with no soul). maxsolomon Friday #13
So Are Contractors modrepub Friday #14
Yes, Clark Construction is a huge General Contractor firm with an extensive portfolio. maxsolomon Friday #22
But they do work without permits so how would you know about the newspapers?l travelingthrulife 16 hrs ago #51
Not a real architect if he ignores the permitting process. travelingthrulife 16 hrs ago #50
We had a really good architect Farmer-Rick 14 hrs ago #52
Isn't this how Trump has operated with all his building projects Ohioboy Friday #9
Trump's legal battles with Palm Beach over various renovations and changes to Mar-a-Lago are well documented. sop Friday #24
News Flash: NCDem47 Friday #28
Correct. sheshe2 Friday #30
Can someone sue Trump to stop this abomination? Lonestarblue Friday #10
Sure, "someone" could sue. maxsolomon Friday #23
ding. this . AllaN01Bear Friday #11
That's not the NPS. That's an account that grifts on people's hopes that there's a secret resistance in the government WhiskeyGrinder Friday #15
Its supposed to be humorous opposition to Trump maxsolomon Friday #35
I don't donate to grifters. WhiskeyGrinder Friday #37
It's impossible to substitute a wish bone BattleRow 12 hrs ago #57
Bet they feel stupid for... lame54 Friday #16
"Alt National Park Service"?? MorbidButterflyTat Friday #17
It's how employees and former employees of the NPS are posting evolves Friday #18
Thanks for letting people know about Alt National Park Service. h2ebits Friday #38
The Alt National Park Service (AltNPS) Twitter account was created in 2017 as a "resistance" effort... QueerDuck Friday #19
Thanks for clearing this up. . . . h2ebits Friday #40
Whatever happens now, whatever replaces the East Wing, destroy it. ffr Friday #20
+1000. Paladin Friday #21
Basically, an enemy HAS burned down the original structure. blue neen Friday #25
Your headline lies. It is NOT the National Park Service. Why lie? What purpose does that serve? Bernardo de La Paz Friday #26
Its a humorous account. maxsolomon Friday #36
Sorry mate... Pluvious 13 hrs ago #54
Thanks! Stuff happens, and the better among us fix it. Bernardo de La Paz 13 hrs ago #56
So, Magoo48 Friday #27
Why doesn't he just fucking die already? Orrex Friday #29
+1. If there were a gawd, believe he would have succumbed long ago. Silent Type Friday #41
False title. That problematic account is NOT The National Park Service. Please edit your title. Celerity Friday #31
Done Pluvious 13 hrs ago #55
Each and Every Dem must call that abomination the EPSTEIN BALLROOM. Justice matters. Friday #42
The reich-wing was way more concerned about a change to the Cracker Barrel logo than the demolition going on. SeattleVet Friday #43
Republicans can't breathe without lying iemanja Yesterday #44
They're nothing but a bunch of Confederates! n/t ReRe 16 hrs ago #46
Tim burchett is a royal asshole. spanone 16 hrs ago #47

Walleye

(42,954 posts)
1. I have been thinking that very thing
Fri Oct 24, 2025, 01:13 PM
Friday

End it occurred to me that when they say preserving heritage what they really mean is slavery and segregation. They don’t care about our own history or culture. They hate it.

pandr32

(13,571 posts)
53. Exactly!
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 12:13 PM
13 hrs ago

That and none of the regulations on labor and industry of the Gilded Age where the Robber Barons became obscenely wealthy and powerful.

tanyev

(48,140 posts)
2. So the Divine President isn't supposed to just call a guy he knows who has a bulldozer
Fri Oct 24, 2025, 01:43 PM
Friday

and get him to come by and tear down a historic building? Huh.

Shame on any contractor agreeing to do that without all the proper paperwork in hand. And when they inevitably get stiffed on the bill by Donald Trump, I will have zero tears to shed.


patphil

(8,406 posts)
3. Can you imagine the howl of indignation if Presidents Obama or Biden had done this.
Fri Oct 24, 2025, 01:46 PM
Friday

Impeachment proceedings would have already begun and we'd have round the clock coverage of the "carnage" on all the MSM channels.

Yet, the republican party is essentially silent on Trump's rape of the White House.
This shit needs to end now!

Pluvious

(5,121 posts)
4. It's hard to believe...
Fri Oct 24, 2025, 02:04 PM
Friday

The Abomination's first year of the term isn't even over yet :-/

eppur_se_muova

(40,398 posts)
5. So ... it's not odd at all that the evidence of the "Obama Era" construction is a black-and-white photo ???
Fri Oct 24, 2025, 02:05 PM
Friday

FFS, ***everyone*** was using digital cameras by then. Color was not some expensive extra. Based on no other evidence at all, that photo has to be from late 60s at best. By that point, journos were taking color pictures and reducing them to B/W for halftone presses while saving the color negatives.

GOPers don't notice because they think EVERYTHING is black and white.








(Cue: Calvin's father explains color vs B/W .... )

Silent Type

(11,604 posts)
7. If only the ALT Naional Park Service were the real PS. Sadly, trump is likely under no obligation to follow tradition.
Fri Oct 24, 2025, 02:20 PM
Friday

He'll simply say that the traditional process takes 2 years or more to complete, and he is not waiting. trumpsters will feel a flutter in their hearts for the man they love.

maxsolomon

(37,669 posts)
12. Does the OP really think Alt NPS on Facebook is the real NPS?
Fri Oct 24, 2025, 02:50 PM
Friday

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Good lord.

You're right - anytime he flouts convention, rules, norms, expectations, they sit up on their hind legs and applaud. Processes are for Libtards and eggheads.

Celerity

(52,717 posts)
32. Not just the OP. So many here on DU have been duped for ages by that sus account.
Fri Oct 24, 2025, 04:30 PM
Friday

Taking a bigger picture outlook, this board is overall far too awash at times in misinformation, disinformation, fake news, RW sourced posts, and dodgy, evidence-free CT.

Silent Type

(11,604 posts)
33. Gawd yeah. But guess if I have to read misinformation or outright distortions, Dems are doing it for good cause.
Fri Oct 24, 2025, 05:07 PM
Friday

trumpsters on the other hand, do it for vile reasons.

modrepub

(3,950 posts)
8. On The Bright Side
Fri Oct 24, 2025, 02:27 PM
Friday

My guess is the new ballroom will be so shoddily built it might actually collapse or catch fire during its inaugural opening.

maxsolomon

(37,669 posts)
13. It won't be shoddy. McCrery is a real architect (albeit one with no soul).
Fri Oct 24, 2025, 02:52 PM
Friday

And the budget has no limit.

modrepub

(3,950 posts)
14. So Are Contractors
Fri Oct 24, 2025, 02:57 PM
Friday

As robust or are they going to be the type that stuff support beams full on old newspapers?

maxsolomon

(37,669 posts)
22. Yes, Clark Construction is a huge General Contractor firm with an extensive portfolio.
Fri Oct 24, 2025, 03:38 PM
Friday

They don't "stuff support beams full of old newspapers."

https://www.clarkconstruction.com/

Farmer-Rick

(12,200 posts)
52. We had a really good architect
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 10:59 AM
14 hrs ago

He did a really good job designing our house. But the plumbing was still not completed accurately and we had to fix some electrical wiring done very poorly. We paid them well and this still happened.

It's not the architect or the contractor that makes for shoddy work. It's all your subcontractors, site laborers and workers that make for shoddy work.

The people who actually do the wiring, put in the pipes and dry wall, the people who actually handle the construction are the ones who get jipped out of their pay. And those are the people pedo Trump cuts back on. Those are the people contractors try to pay pennies for. Those are the jobs they bring migrant workers in for.

Those low paid workers will make or break a shoddy building even if you have the best contractors and architects in the world.

So, yeah, that new ballroom for the filthy-rich and Nazis could still burn down due to shoddy wiring. Because it's not the contractor or architect that actually handles the wires.

Ohioboy

(3,820 posts)
9. Isn't this how Trump has operated with all his building projects
Fri Oct 24, 2025, 02:29 PM
Friday

He goes around the rules.

This is just the demolition. Wait till he starts to build with cheap labor and inferior building materials.
He'll probably end up stiffing the workers in the end too.

sop

(16,600 posts)
24. Trump's legal battles with Palm Beach over various renovations and changes to Mar-a-Lago are well documented.
Fri Oct 24, 2025, 03:44 PM
Friday

Everything from the excessive height of a flagpole, the size and placement of a helicopter pad, to the use of his estate as a club/business had to be litigated. Trump never follows the laws.

sheshe2

(94,513 posts)
30. Correct.
Fri Oct 24, 2025, 04:19 PM
Friday

He just grabbed America by the East Wing without permission. He was automatically attracted to his plans.of a ballroom. He just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything."

"Grab them by the EastWing. You can do anything.”

Lonestarblue

(13,019 posts)
10. Can someone sue Trump to stop this abomination?
Fri Oct 24, 2025, 02:48 PM
Friday

Republicans will just stand by while he razes the entire White House. Surely some federal judges would bar what he us doing.

maxsolomon

(37,669 posts)
23. Sure, "someone" could sue.
Fri Oct 24, 2025, 03:41 PM
Friday

They'd have to demonstrate standing. A federal judge could issue an injunction (not a Trump judge), which would then be ignored while it is fought up to the SCOTUS.

You know what happens then.

MFer won't raze the central portion of the WH. Cover it in gold leaf, sure.

WhiskeyGrinder

(25,895 posts)
15. That's not the NPS. That's an account that grifts on people's hopes that there's a secret resistance in the government
Fri Oct 24, 2025, 03:06 PM
Friday

that will save us all.

maxsolomon

(37,669 posts)
35. Its supposed to be humorous opposition to Trump
Fri Oct 24, 2025, 05:57 PM
Friday

How does it "grift"? Have you donated to ANPS?

WhiskeyGrinder

(25,895 posts)
37. I don't donate to grifters.
Fri Oct 24, 2025, 06:12 PM
Friday

They’ve heavily implied that they’re an undercover group doing what they can “on the inside,” although they’ve stepped way back from the ridiculous cryptic social media posts in recent months (“Six. Twenty-five. Nine.”). They sell merch on their website.

evolves

(5,660 posts)
18. It's how employees and former employees of the NPS are posting
Fri Oct 24, 2025, 03:18 PM
Friday

now that the actual NPS website has been overtaken by the current incompetant administration.

h2ebits

(951 posts)
38. Thanks for letting people know about Alt National Park Service.
Fri Oct 24, 2025, 07:21 PM
Friday
They've been posting on Facebook since Elon Musk eviscerated them.
Per another post, AltNPS was created in 2017 during Trump's first term in office. I didn't discover them on Facebook until after Elon Musk had eviscerated the department.

What I don't understand is the caustic comments on this thread by people just because. . . .

If you read the post, they have outlined the process and, as I understand it, the White House is under the auspices of the National Park Service.

Perhaps the original post should be re-titled as "The Alt National Park Service's response to Trump's unilateral demolition..."

QueerDuck

(346 posts)
19. The Alt National Park Service (AltNPS) Twitter account was created in 2017 as a "resistance" effort...
Fri Oct 24, 2025, 03:20 PM
Friday

The Alt National Park Service (AltNPS) Twitter account was created in 2017 as a "resistance" effort in response to the Trump administration imposing social media restrictions on official government agencies. The account and movement aimed to continue disseminating scientific facts and environmental information that they felt was being suppressed.

Origin and purpose

Context: Shortly after the first inauguration of Donald Trump in January 2017, federal agencies were ordered to halt all social media posting. This occurred after the official National Park Service (NPS) account retweeted messages comparing the crowd size at Trump's inauguration to Barack Obama's.

"Rogue" accounts emerge: In the wake of the gag order, unofficial or "rogue" accounts emerged on social media. The AltNPS account was created by what it described as an anonymous network of NPS employees and their allies to speak out against environmental policy changes. Other "Alt" accounts for agencies like the EPA and NASA also appeared.

h2ebits

(951 posts)
40. Thanks for clearing this up. . . .
Fri Oct 24, 2025, 07:28 PM
Friday

Some of the people on this board just attack without thought and then pile on.

ffr

(23,296 posts)
20. Whatever happens now, whatever replaces the East Wing, destroy it.
Fri Oct 24, 2025, 03:23 PM
Friday

A.S.A.P.

Restore the East Wing, even if only cosmetically, as if, an enemy had burned down the original structure.

blue neen

(12,464 posts)
25. Basically, an enemy HAS burned down the original structure.
Fri Oct 24, 2025, 03:47 PM
Friday

What’s it going to take to wake up Republicans up?

Pluvious

(5,121 posts)
54. Sorry mate...
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 12:16 PM
13 hrs ago

I posted it in a rush out the house, I just learned of my unintended oversight and updated the title and added a note to the post

Peace be upon you

Bernardo de La Paz

(59,819 posts)
56. Thanks! Stuff happens, and the better among us fix it.
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 12:24 PM
13 hrs ago

Kudos to you for handling it gracefully. (Stuff happens with me too and I hope I can gracefully fix it when notified.)

Magoo48

(6,658 posts)
27. So,
Fri Oct 24, 2025, 03:56 PM
Friday

We loan the Orange Cartoon-Character our house for 4 years, everything on our fucking dime, and he rips down a third of it. Then, he bribes a bunch of rich chumps to pay for the erection of a guilted, dime a ticket dancehall.

What ya wanna bet We the People end up paying for the entire fucking thing and the lawsuits which will blossom around it like mushrooms out of cowshit.

Celerity

(52,717 posts)
31. False title. That problematic account is NOT The National Park Service. Please edit your title.
Fri Oct 24, 2025, 04:24 PM
Friday

SeattleVet

(5,766 posts)
43. The reich-wing was way more concerned about a change to the Cracker Barrel logo than the demolition going on.
Fri Oct 24, 2025, 11:52 PM
Friday

Priorities, you know.

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