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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTears this morning. I'm lucky. I've never had to use Meals on Wheels.
Our local newspaper is reporting that Meals on Wheels is now affected by the cuts in funding for food insecurity. Three hundred and fifty seniors who are basically shut ins are affected. Doesn't affect me - at least not YET - but I found myself sobbing. Because I care.
One local business has agreed to fund the program for 90 days. It is a very muchly Republican leaning operation, but I'm thankful they have agreed to help. Then what? Is this the goal? To make local businesses and taxpayers fund these programs because we can't stand to see our neighbors starve?
Makes me so damn mad. What in the hell are we paying taxes for? I want my taxes to feed the hungry; not feed another freaking billionaire.
leftstreet
(37,735 posts)Midnight Writer
(24,899 posts)There are a lot of desperate people among us who are about to become much more desperate.
I can't solve this problem, but at least I can help out the local food bank to hopefully get some food in folk's stomachs.
The GOP's vision for America seems to include people starving on the streets and in their homes, not being able to afford healthcare, not being able to afford a decent home, not having any job security, no limits on how employers use and abuse you, an economy that works for only a few.
Meanwhile, the billionaires will continue to rape our resources and people, all the while dancing in their billion-dollar ballrooms and cruising in their billion-dollar yachts.
hamsterjill
(16,671 posts)This is obviously something proactive that we can and should do. Thank you for posting1
But I ask again, what am I paying taxes for? We must still continue to try to retake this democracy so that OUR money can go towards the causes that actually help people.
Please understand that I'm NOT arguing with your post. I appreciate your kindness in wanting to help others who are in need. I just wanted to reiterate the importance that we cannot give up in trying to change things - and I know you were not suggesting that we do.
slightlv
(6,889 posts)there is no other way to look at it. Everything that we built up in government for the good of the people is or has been torn down and demolished. Instead, we're now funding murders in the Caribbean. We're funding evangelical pogroms against POC, sexual diversity, and women. We're funding pure, unadulterated evil with our tax dollars.
popsdenver
(771 posts)donations to Food Bank of the Rockies, and also to Meals on Wheels.................
PLEASE everyone, if you can, join us...............
Skittles
(168,259 posts)Last edited Fri Oct 24, 2025, 09:08 PM - Edit history (1)
I'm a longtime regular donor to my local food bank and will add some extra - the thought of people going hungry really bothers me. It should not be happening at all.
JMCKUSICK
(4,317 posts)Midnight Writer. That's ultimately what all of this is going to come back down to.
From the inside out, we need to protect and serve(sorry for the ironic pun) our neighbors, our neighborhoods, our communities, and out. That's the only way we keep our country.
jmbar2
(7,393 posts)Religious folk helped put this regime into power. Now they need to help with the consequences.
As long as people who come in for food bend the knee.
AverageOldGuy
(3,094 posts)We are small food pantry, one of four operated by churches in our town. Local groceries donate food of all types that is about to expire; we pick up two days a week. Also get some USDA food -- beans, rice, oil, powdered milk, and the like.
We distribute each Saturday. Have gone for about 600 families per Saturday to almost 1,000 last Saturday and we all are dreading tomorrow.
Meanwhile, USDA shipments have dropped to half what they were.
I hate Trump and I hate Republicans. I know it did no good but I told a Republican acquaintance earlier this week about the food pantry load, his response was something about "Democrats caused it." I walked off, did not turn around in spite of his calling after me. Got home, blacked his number on cell phone and landline, blocked him on email, removed him from Facebook. I really do hate these fucking people. It may sound stupid but I'm am afraid of what I may do if confronted by another one. Going on 81, retired 30 years ago after 28 years in Army, Vietnam vet, Army Ranger, work out five days a week -- goddam but I am honestly afraid I will deck someone.
hamsterjill
(16,671 posts)I feel the same way. Many comments on the newspaper article that I reference in the OP were like "they need to get a job". Seriously? How damn ugly can one person be? No heart. No soul. And certainly NO empathy.
We have one church in our area that has a food pantry every Monday. They are well stocked. There are no questions and no qualifications. Anyone who needs food is welcome. I love this approach.
But how long can they operate when word and need spreads so that everyone who's hungry is coming to that location? They won't be able to keep up forever. The private sector cannot take care of the masses.
That's why we pay taxes!!!!
llmart
(16,990 posts)This next tax year in April we should all (approx. 8 million who marched) just refuse to file a return (well, except for those of us expecting a refund). He's probably gutted the IRS, so they won't have the resources to come after all of us. What can they do to us?
BlueKota
(4,731 posts)That's why FDR start building the safety net. What some of these Magats are too dumb to realize is it just won't be Democrats getting hurt. It will be some of them and their family and friends too.
slightlv
(6,889 posts)and still way too many support him and what he's doing... they do some kind of mumbo-jumbo cognitive dissonance to get around the words in their heads, but as long as they can say it's hurting those "others" they're okay with it. And that's the extent of their critical thinking -- own the libs. No matter who else has to hurt or die in the process. And no matter that the libs only tried to make things better for everyone.
Diamond_Dog
(38,852 posts)Homeless veterans, military families, working poor and their children, the frail elderly .. all have to starve so the King can build his golden palace and ICE Goon Barbie can have two brand new Gulfstreams. How on earth does any American find this acceptable?
Keepthesoulalive
(1,962 posts)BlueKota
(4,731 posts)"Right to life my fucking ass. You're willing to let people including children die of starvation in the U.S and around the world. The reason you are against abortion is not a religious one. You're just scared that there are not enough white male babies being born."
Permanut
(7,667 posts)You've shown once again that you're actually NotAverageOldGuy.. Navy vet here, going on 80, can't bench 180 now like I did 50 years ago.
Still 6'2 and 250 though, ready and willing to take on my share of the MAGAT pissants.
We can dream.
twodogsbarking
(16,365 posts)Food is so expensive it is out of reach to many. Education is so expensive it is out of reach for many. Automobiles are so expensive they are out of reach for many. Ballrooms are so expensive but are more important.
ShazzieB
(21,858 posts)Our rent just went up $200 when we renewed our lease this fall. TWO HUNDRED FREAKING DOLLARS!!! We like it here but we are going to HAVE to move when this year's lease expires. Probably to something way too small that we don't like as much, and that's assuming we can find something halfway decent for what we can pay!
Of course, this apartment complex is owned by a big rich corporation, which means profits are the only thing that matters! When can you tell that capitalism is out of control? When regular folks have to suffer so that bilionaires can get richer and richer, that's when!

Farmer-Rick
(12,200 posts)You got to bow down to an imaginary being before they feed you. I guess it's no worse than bowing down to pedo Trump.
Around here the conspiracy is Texas bussed their homeless to our small East Tennessee town, because of the huge increase in homelessness in the county. They can't admit that the homeless increase is local and due to government policies by Pedo Trump and the Republicons whom they voted for.
I remember when we only had one homeless guy who rode around on a bike, lived in the woods and everybody knew him. We all gave him money at one time or another. He had psychological issues and couldn't afford to be treated.
We didn't have any Food banks until after the Bush crash of 2008.
Hekate
(99,958 posts)They have changed their name to show a national affiliation & I have to go look that up to see what that means locally.
Ah, religion. I definitely know people who volunteer through their churches and synagogues, taking turns at the Food Bank and homeless shelters, donating personal time and money. I call that a blessing.
BUT none of them that I know of ever make their giving conditional. Thats just wrong.
questionseverything
(11,368 posts)The only questions are, your name and number of family members living in the house 🏡
On the other hand, Salvation Army does require bible study and if you live there, chores
ShazzieB
(21,858 posts)The SA does charitable works not for their own sake, but for the purpose of religious indoctrination. That doesn't sit right with me.
Other reasons I don't give to them are their reputation of LGBTQ+ discrimination and their anti-abortion stance. (They're not as rabidly anti-choice as some Christian denominations, but I don't want my limited funds going to any organization that opposes reproductive freedom even a little bit).
As you pointed out, not every charity associated with a church is in it for the purpose of religious indoctrination, and I applaud them for that!
ananda
(33,763 posts)anyone who came for help got it immediately,
no questions asked.
She didn't believe in poor shaming.
Farmer-Rick
(12,200 posts)But they all get some kind of religious corroboration from it. We don't need churches, religion or gods to feed the hungry. We can do it all by ourselves without some religious organization taking credit for it.
But religions got everyone convinced they are the arbitrators of charity and welfare for the people. Providing for the welfare of the people is in the US Constitution. Which, of course, is totally ignored by Republicons and the current Nazis in charge of our federal government.
obamanut2012
(28,968 posts)The Salvataion Army and a few crackpot sects do, but most religious food pantries, etc. do not make anyone in need attend services, pray, etc. Here in Sacramento, we have a wonderful coalition of churches of all flavors in Midtown and Downtown in Sacramento who not only give food, showers, clothing, and other material to those in need, they provide a place to chill, charge phones, get a haircut, help with social welfare benefits, resumes, etc. Our church (Episcopal) is part of this coalition, and nothing is asked of anyone, only open arms and support.
ShazzieB
(21,858 posts)I hate to see all churches and religious organizations lumped together like they're all the same, because I know from first hand experience that that's not the case!
slightlv
(6,889 posts)then when enough people said "Enough!" (and there was democratic support in all three branches), a law was created that stopped that kind of thing. After that, giving was to be unconditional. The churches couldn't demand that you first sit through a service, or need to make any promises, etc. before or after you were fed. I honestly don't believe churches abided by this "law" all of the time. Church power is too strong, in this country and others. There's a whole history of the Church being the power behind the throne in all kinds of ways. And, if that law still exists, I expect to see it dismantled before too much more time has passed.
iluvtennis
(21,394 posts)programs like Meals on Wheels, SNAP, ACA tax subsidies, PBS, NPR, Fish and Game life, National Parks, etc, etc., etc.
Our tax money should not be going to give the wealthy and corporations tax breaks.
hamsterjill
(16,671 posts)You understood my point! It's great and it's absolutely needed and desired that we help those in need. But we've still GOT to exert change. I don't want people starving when the Elon Musks' and Jeff Bezos' of the world have money for utter STUPID stuff while people - mainly little children and elderly people - are starving and dying.
Many of the comments on the local newspaper story were Repukes saying "people need to get a job". I'd like to know how in the hell they expect an 80-year old paraplegic to get a job. I'd really like to know that. When you ask them - crickets, of course.
It all breaks my old and tired heart!
iluvtennis
(21,394 posts)AllaN01Bear
(27,769 posts)they are a great .org out there and i provide weather forecasting for them esp during during winter months . i was also a client at one time untill someone tampered with my meals .
BeerBarrelPolka
(1,926 posts)Someone tampered with your meals? I'd be interested in reading about that if you wish to discuss it. That's definitely a criminal offense.
AllaN01Bear
(27,769 posts)one day i found some strange meals in my bag. told the director about it and for saftey concerns the director decided to suspend service . not a loss though. this was a long time ago.
BeerBarrelPolka
(1,926 posts)I wonder if you were targeted or was it widespread? Sorry it happened to you. I'm on Meals on Wheels again starting next week.
AllaN01Bear
(27,769 posts)BeerBarrelPolka
(1,926 posts)FakeNoose
(39,138 posts)I think Pennsylvania can keep it going for a limited time, for now. You're absolutely correct that private charities and churches will be overwhelmed with all the desperate people who have no other resources. This is a very sad time in America.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,304 posts)Sounds like the thing to do.
Evolve Dammit
(21,302 posts)slightlv
(6,889 posts)These seniors are shut-ins for many different reasons. Sometimes, the only main contact they have with the world around them are the people who deliver their meals. And social contact is just as important for seniors, if not more so, than for other age groups. It can actually determine life expectancy.
Evolve Dammit
(21,302 posts)slightlv
(6,889 posts)Surprised the heck out of me, one time. I was headed for bed, dressed only in a long t-shirt, and went to see if she was ready for me to help her to bed (she was in the front room). I found the front room full of EMTs and police! A little concerning; a little embarrassing. She'd had one of her famous chest pains for which no reason could be found again. It became a problem when we got a note from Medicare that she'd gone through her yearly allotment of these types of emergency calls for the year... and it wasn't even summer yet. But Mom had one big issue... she *liked* being in the hospital. She treated it almost like a hotel with people there constantly to wait on her. (sigh) Strange thing is, when the EMTs were at the house, she was rude as hell to them. She was a narcissistic personality type and I had a long, strange childhood with her... I understood a lot of what she did and why, but there are some things that will always keep me in mystery.
Evolve Dammit
(21,302 posts)I of course disagreed, but in retrospect she divulged the truth in an apparent moment of honesty. Took care of her for last 20 years and think she appreciated most of it.
BarbD
(1,348 posts)They provide a check-in five days a week to people who are housebound.
slightlv
(6,889 posts)the social contact, the conversations, the caring, the check-ins... AND the meals. It's all so important to the elderly. Some of these younger people don't even think about because it's not in their life experience yet. The rich... well, what do they need of MOW? It's just taking money out of their own pockets as far as they're concerned.
And now, as I've reached the age where cooking is sometimes more than I can handle and hubby and I go for weeks with no one but each other, MOW disappears. Thank goodness for DU. There are times I think I'd lose my sanity if it weren't for this place!
electric_blue68
(24,538 posts)Hope22
(4,247 posts)Who are already feeding and housing their extended families. Maybe the churches can kick it up a notch! This entire thing is a manufactured disaster.
Scalded Nun
(1,537 posts)If you need assistance, are old, are disabled, are the wrong color, the wrong gender identity, wrong religion, or wrong whatever the fuck they come up with for a new 'wrong', then you are pretty much useless except for maybe fertilizer.
And they want you to live in fear until they do come for you.
slightlv
(6,889 posts)Klarkashton
(4,436 posts)That it's Trump's fault, so they want to do what they can to bail him out.
markodochartaigh
(4,474 posts)believe that all relief can be provided through churches. But when you show them the numbers, the amount of SNAP, WIC, etc. benefits compared to the amount of support provided by religious organizations the numbers prove that the same level of support would be impossible. Sometimes they say that if people didn't have pay such high taxes they would give more to churches, or if poor people would get all of their aid through churches they would attend the church, magically become better people, and find jobs. Really it is like everything else in the reich-wing believe-o-verse, based on belief and not fact.
Wounded Bear
(63,302 posts)Feeling others' pain with little or nothing to be done to alleviate it.
Repubs, for the most part, have none so are not affected by others' pain.
Irish_Dem
(76,730 posts)People can eat cake.
Clouds Passing
(6,272 posts)they can contribute majorly to feeding the seniors!
Evolve Dammit
(21,302 posts)Clouds Passing
(6,272 posts)Trueblue Texan
(3,911 posts)If we want people to be cared for, we have pay for it ourselves, AGAIN.
yellow dahlia
(3,671 posts)samplegirl
(13,478 posts)Most likely the same thing will happen here soon in Ohio.
Maybe the morons who voted Trump can fund their parent or their grandparents food and cook it too.
Doubtful though.
How horrible!!!!!!
Project 2025 is moving quick.
hamsterjill
(16,671 posts)The Repukes try things here and if it works, they expand the idea. So it will be coming to a municipality near everyone soon Im afraid.
Vinca
(52,905 posts)make some kind of deal with the GOP about proceeding to ACA negotiations and open the government. We can't let people starve. Just get the GOP to agree to immediate action on healthcare and to get the new member sworn in. After things progress, use release of the Epstein files as a threat to get the ACA subsidies extended. At that point we'll have enough votes and people will be receiving their new bills for insurance coverage. I don't think nonprofits will have enough funding to provide food to 46 million people. We will still be in a good position with the majority of votes to hang Epstein over Saint Mike. The GOP will also have the MAGA nuts upset because nothing is happening with Epstein.
dugog55
(356 posts)Local businesses and concerned Americans providing money and/or food for for food insecure people. We have been doing this for years for military veterans. There are dozens of organizations that raise money to help out needy vets. Why? The US government sent them into wars, mostly with lies, but always for big business interests. Yet, when they come back damaged mentally or physically, they are cast aside. This leaves Americans that already have 70% of their taxes used to fund the military that is causing this problem. The government should be covering all costs and doing all they can to help these vets that they have put in harms way.