The destruction can't be prevented

[BWdem4life]

But maybe the ballroom can.

[Frasier Balzov]

1. Calling it the Epstein Ballroom won't be prevented.

[GPV]

25. It's actually a convention center.

[B.See]

2. Well, my thoughts on just the implications are

if this fkr can tear down the East Wing with no one to stop him, then who's to stop him from doing the same to the West Wing, the main building, the Washington Monument, the Lincoln Memorial or anything else he wants to DEMOLISH?

[Irish_Dem]

3. There is nothing to stop him from tearing it all down.

He loves having this amount of power.
He can do whatever he wants and he knows no one will stop him.

[Hugin]

4. Frankly, I don't believe that there will be any structure built.

The whole enterprise is yet another trumpian tip jar with the incentive to the more feeling donors that they don’t want the scar to persist. So, yeah, the destruction is the point.

The tiny handed vulgarian has already moved on to his next tip jar arch which will meet the same fate of only existing on donor lists.

[Irish_Dem]

6. I had the same thought. We know something is up.

We know that it is a giant grift, a money laundering scheme.
There never needs to be an actual building project.

I have also wondered if the ballroom is the cover story for him building a new White House essentially.
Living quarters, meeting rooms, etc.

There is no way a ballroom should cost $300 million dollars to build.

[Hugin]

8. Trump sees himself as an idea man...

Which is ironic as he’s never had an original thought in his life. A starter and not a finisher. Whatever the Freudian implications of that may be.

In my opinion, the way forward at this point is for the public to insist that he finish the damned ballroom using his own funds if need be and he can’t start something else until it is done. But, there’s so little collective backbone out there that is a pipe dream.

[Irish_Dem]

9. Trump doesn't care what the public wants.

He doesn't care about anyone else but himself.

I agree something is very off about the project.
We don't yet know exactly what is going on.

But no one can or will stop him.

[ananda]

10. But whatever it is, it won't be a white house.

Something in line with the largest
Russian-type palace ever.

However, it appears to me that it will
also be ultra tacky and trashy looking.

I'm not even sure the constructors
will be all that competent.

[Irish_Dem]

11. Definitely will be Imperial Russian Ho House decor and style.

All cheap gold overlay on every square inch.

I think he hires shady companies who will not get permits,
will take short cuts, and do shoddy work.

Trump knows the US taxpayer will get stuck with upkeep, repairs, maintenance.

And shady companies are easier to stiff and refuse payment when the job is done.

[ananda]

12. You read my mind.

Precisely

[Irish_Dem]

13. If there are too many complaints about no permits

Trump will blame the construction company.
Even insist they go to jail, etc.

Even though he assured them they didn’t need permits.

[ananda]

14. First it has to get started.

That will take awhile.

Then it has to get finished.

That is questionable in my mind.

[Irish_Dem]

15. Trump is fast tracking this project.

I think it will get started soon if indeed he’s actually going to build it.

It is way overpriced for a ballroom.
So I wonder what he is actually going to build.

Of course he may not build anything.
It is just a laundering operation.

[ananda]

16. That also makes sense.

Something about this whole shady operation
reflects the state of Trump's mind... trashy,
cheap, destructive, and full of spiders.

[Irish_Dem]

17. Yes but I also think something else is going on.

I have not figured it out yet.

[ananda]

19. Do you really think Trump's billionaire minders wanted this?

I can't see anything at play but Trump's tangled, demented mind...
of which this is a good mirror.

The billionaire minders just have to go along and help support it
now... but I really don't think they like it.

Of course, they also have no morals or backbone... but I do
think they wanted the respectable auro surrounding the office.

[Irish_Dem]

22. The billionaires are just pay to play.

They want some favors in return for the cash they are giving Trump.
I don't think they give a damn what he does with the money?

Something is very off about the ballroom building.
It is way over priced. The blueprints and pictures of the finished building don't match.
Etc Etc.

[ananda]

23. That is way off.

We'll see what happens.

[Irish_Dem]

24. Something is very off about the project.

Something beyond what we are discussing.
I don't know what it is yet.

[ananda]

28. You don't know because they don't know.

This is nothing but utter insanity with money
and grift involved.

[Irish_Dem]

32. No I suspect more to it.

I think there will be new living quarters and underground facilities.

[ananda]

34. So not a ballroom at all.

Hmmm

[Irish_Dem]

35. Yes there will be Trump's throne room.

But it does not cost $3000 a square foot to build that.

[ananda]

20. Well, yes. His mind is that tangled.

Even he might think he's doing one thing
and will end up doing another.

That's been the case several times already
with some of his nasty whims.

[rampartd]

26. now that the hole is there

war room and things can be built underground (a good idea on the drone era), but can you imagine a krasnov project that will not be bugged?

if built, the ball room must be destroyed, and send him the bill.

[Irish_Dem]

31. Yes this is exactly part of what I think is happening.

Underground facilities and new living quarters.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

30. It's his way of raising more money. He will have balls and more parties for thousands of dollars a plate.

He thinks people are going to be so curious and enthused to see it that they will come in droves. A lot of people will think it’s hideous with all the gold crap - even MAGATs.

[Irish_Dem]

33. Of course it is a major grifting project.

[Crunchy Frog]

5. The destruction can and should be reversed.

[spinbaby]

7. From an architect named Andrew Kerr

I ran across this on Facebook, posted by a man named Andrew Kerr:

Here's why the new White House ballroom project is not real. (The demo is obviously real.) Some background - I am a licensed Architect with 20+ years of experience. I have worked on multiple Federal projects with sensitive building programs that required background checks.

1. With a projected size of 90,000sf and a newly revised budget of $300M, the cost per square foot would be $3,333. No building costs anywhere near that. $1,000/sf is astronomical.

2. Let's assume, since we are drawing in the classical, style, that the proportions of the building adhere to the Golden Ratio. A 90,000sf would be a building with a footprint roughly 380' x 235'. Longer than a football field and 1.5x as wide.

2. The building is projected to accommodate 999 people. 15sf/person is required for a banquet area; 20sf/person is pretty comfortable. What you see in the rendering below is closer to 20sf/person. That's only 20,000sf, or a space that is 200'x100'. It's supposed to be a ballroom, so let's be extraordinarily generous and provide 10,000sf for the ballroom support functions, and another 10,000sf for pre-function. Extraordinarily generous. That's STILL only 40,000sf, not even half of the supposed building.

3. There are no drawings for the building. The renderings are poorly coordinated - exterior views do not match the interior views. See below - the White House is 70 feet tall, to the roof. The interior renderings show a room that is roughly 100' x 200', with a ~20 foot ceiling. The exterior renderings show a building footprint of 4.5x that amount.

Those are renderings that could be produced by young staff in a week or two, at most. Nothing else exists.

[maxsolomon]

21. It's likely that the Contract Documents are still being drawn at McCrery.

Demolition barely needs plans, but the foundation drawings could be complete now. There's no need for permitting; the Federal Govt can permit itself in DC.

As to the 90K sf, I presume there will be below-grade levels. The event space needs a large commercial kitchen. Will there be other bunker/secure basement levels? I'd guess yes.

[Irish_Dem]

36. Spinbaby: You might consider making this an OP. I think this is important information.

[Irish_Dem]

38. Is Trump building an entire new White House?

He can claim the destruction of the East Wing damaged the entire WH?

Trump is building way more than a ballroom.

[Johnny2X2X]

18. I hope we get this grotesque ballroom

And I hope the statue of himself gets built in DC and it is gold and ugly and dwarfs the Washington Monument. America deserves a reminder for all time of how we lost our democracy.

I hope he puts a Trump sign on the roof of the White House with giant 50 foot gold letters that have gold lights that blink at night.

[rampartd]

29. this shou,ld bde seen from space

a warning that there is no intelligent life on this planet.

[dweller]

27. 🤔

Look upon my works , ye mighty , and despair !



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[doc03]

37. I heard the bunker is 100 feet or so below the East

Wing. Could this be a cover for expanding the
bunker?