Palestinian women giving birth in rubble on roads, says senior UN official, as he compares Gaza to dystopian film

[Celerity]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/oct/23/israel-west-bank-gaza-rubio-middle-east-latest-news-updates

[AloeVera]

1. But we were "defending Western civilization"!

How the fuck did we just stand by and WATCH the destruction of HOSPITALS for two years? Or any of the rest of the savagery enabled by lies and gaslighting?

How could people apparently NOT have given a moment's thought to what it actually MEANT for the people who lived there? What level of racism and hate is required for that??

[MarineCombatEngineer]

6. And now Been A Dick Donald is probably going to strike Venezuela

via a false flag Tonkin Gulf type incident.

Well, like someone else said in another thread, it's been a while since US service personnel's bodies have landed at Dover AFB.

[cliffside]

2. Kick and meanwhile the bodies returned from Israel cannot be identified, a mass grave, one of many I fear ...

posted here.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1134145260

Gift link ...

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/22/world/middleeast/mass-burial-gaza.html?unlocked_article_code=1.vk8.qmrp.TGvqg7g3-o3J&smid=url-share

"Forensic doctors at Gaza’s Nasser Hospital, which received the remains, say they have been unable to identify roughly two-thirds of the bodies.

... Some of the bodies returned to Gaza were in a troubling state, according to Dr. Ahmed Dheir, a senior forensic specialist at Nasser Hospital. He said that many bore signs of traumatic injuries, and all were unidentified save for a number assigned by Israel.

In a statement in relation to those allegations, the Israeli military said that it “operates strictly in accordance with international law.”

"...It has been difficult for the authorities in Gaza to identify bodies returned so far because the decimated local health system lacks the capacity to do DNA testing..."

[leftstreet]

3. DURec

[Prairie Gates]

4. Usually, when people say "There will be a reckoning," I roll my eyes: that's not how history works

There's isn't any justice and there are no reckonings.

But in this case, I think that's wrong. There will be a reckoning for this. The scale of the horror is too great. The disgust with the perpetrators is too widespread.

[questionseverything]

5. I have had this image on my mind and heart all day today

That soooooo many posters here on du won’t condemn what Israel has done breaks my heart.

That they ignore these posts and pretend nothing evil is happening, honestly it scares me

The governor from Maine supports AIPAC and all the death and destruction they have brought but somehow it doesn’t get mentioned but another candidate has a tat and omg, the swarm is beside itself

Xxxxxxxx

So to be clear, Israel with the United States money and full blessing have bombed 2 million plus people, who are penned in behind a fence for over two years now, starved and denied them water and have crippled their civilization to the point where

Woman are laying on the rubble to give birth

If that sentence doesn’t make you sick, you have become what you feared

[AloeVera]

7. Your comment gives me hope and comfort.

Take heart, most people in the world feel as we do. But we are powerless. For now.

So to be clear, Israel with the United States money and full blessing have bombed 2 million plus people, who are penned in behind a fence for over two years now, starved and denied them water and have crippled their civilization to the point where

Woman are laying on the rubble to give birth

If that sentence doesn’t make you sick, you have become what you feared

Bravo. Keep repeating it. It's brilliant.

Edited to add:
With a very, very few exceptions, pro-Israel people are not going to condemn Israel no matter what, nor admit they were wrong. Such is the power of blind adherence to an ideology and propagandization from birth. Ye, it is both scary and sad.